Breath and cold give the mind a direct way to practice regulation under pressure. In this conversation from the source, the useful thread is not novelty. It is agency: what the body can learn when the signal is clear and the dose is respected.
wim hof i am so excited to have you in the studio today and i am loving your book the wim hof method it's very special it's already been dog-eared and written all over and applied and read by my family and thank you so much for what you do and thank you for doing another podcast this is part two and for those of you that haven't listened to part one you have to go to part one and listen to the first interview i did with wim hof one of the most amazing men on the planet and this is part two so welcome thank you so much caroline the first podcast was really great and with the promise to do more scientific research that is what is needed and we need to demystify the our natural powers and how to access into that because we got so many problems in the world like depression anxiety fear and we have a great mind all of us to deal with that flawlessly but how and that's what we are going to show we want to show this through science but now through common sense and science exactly because science keeps changing and common sense keeps growing so it's a natural collaboration to use the two together and it's always bringing all these concepts together that is is so exciting well i know that you have worked a lot with a doctor lisa eppo at who's one of the leading authorities on telomere research and that really excited me everything about your work excites me but that really excited me because i've just done a set of clinical trials and i mentioned to you last time when we interviewed you that we saw changes in the telomeres with mind management so using that power i mean i'm not doing i don't do the breathing i do the mind management which is a collaboration of of what you doing and what i'm doing it's sort of the other part added on and we saw a change in as short as nine weeks in the length of the telomeres is sometimes even less and when people didn't manage their mind they were significantly shorter in in a short period of time when they managed their mind
when they managed their mind significantly longer and i know dr eppo has been there's the philosophy of telomeres which are the little for those of you that don't know what they are it's the little socks on the ends of the chromosomes the proteins that protect protect the chromosomes and we need those for cell health and i know dr epple is big on showing now that we can make these changes very quickly because originally it was thought you had to look at time periods of five years and you've shown with your work just where the breathing is changing telomeres almost immediately so can you talk a little bit about the fascinating work that you're doing with dr apple with the telomeres and your breathing and maybe we should talk maybe we should start by you just quickly explaining the three pillars of the wim hof method and then we can transition to the science the different elements of the science and perhaps start with the telomeres how does that sound it sounds like music you know if you demystify the the span length of your life to be able to be within your willful control that is bloody amazing for everybody or everybody can do the same in that everybody is able to influence at will within their own telomeres within their length span of life do you want that i think so yeah okay this is what we do this is what it shows if you change by mental control by mindfulness like what you have been explaining right now these mindful techniques you are able within eight to nine weeks to show significant lengthening of the telomeres that means you're going to live longer when you are positive with yourself when you are firm and when you confirm your when you are stable you are in charge yes you are in charge in the moment
yes you are in charge in the moment and those moments make up a longer span of life that is both more in the moment and both longer in life i mean i choose that give me get get give me your exactly absolutely absolutely high five yes yes give me a dozen of that yes more and uh okay a little bit more is even good i i mean it's like going to the shop okay can you give me a more alive and more a presence in the moment yes just be mindful no and this is it the complicated way of thinking we have been taught throughout life is actually very stressful for our biochemistry on cell level and that is the span of life when we are into worries into emotion those negative emotions because happens and we gotta do this we gotta follow this i gotta stress up because i i got a deadline no go for the life line yes so you have come up with that and i went from a different angle into the same which is one of the pillars is the mind set the mindset the power of intention people have to know and we have never been schooled there in that we have a power absolute beautiful power of our mind the power of intention we can direct our biochemistry within our body through the tools in the brain to become happy strong and healthy just by a mind set let me explain a little detail mindset i set my mind i go to the university
i set my mind i go to the university i get ice cold water upon my skin and just by my mind set i make myself connect with the skin i say to a body take on the stress which is coming with ice water on the skin and make my skin temperature not going down just by mindset just by the power of intention that much is our mind capable of dealing with stress stress comes in many ways but in the end it is biological cell biological stress now your mind is going to work through your biology so obviously if your mind is your biology is just going to do what your mind tells it to do and when i've been studying this for 38 years the mindfulness and beyond mindfulness the techniques of taking mindset and then actually very deliberate intentional mind techniques so the mindful the breathing the mindfulness that's your area and then going into mind techniques so if you bring the two together the power of what we have within is unreal i mean you can change you can we see the evidence in my research as well and i know you've done this so much with all the universe your research that you're doing all over the world now with your methods is showing that when you use your mind you can change your body temperature you can and they do you've done fmr had fmri's done showing it's changing i use qegs this is real what we're telling you viewers and listeners is this is real you have you don't have to go and get everything from the outside you need to find what's on the inside and release it and that's what we trying to help you do sorry i just want to do i just wanted to reinforce what you were saying there don't be sorry ever you would be sorry if you wouldn't have said it because what you say makes absolute sense and we have to i will stress once more just sit still and understand that you with your mind are capable of so much more than
are capable of so much more than considered in science up till now this is a new era we have a tool that is our mind and it is not just mathematics and history and language and things like that but it is for your happiness your you are able just by using your mindset not complicated it is there it is innately we are capacitated to make use of that to influence into the gene genome expressions and set on turn on the right genome expressions for the body to function hormonally and with the neurotransmitters and with the right sequences all you are the alchemist i thought but at by birth it's all there sit still and think about it what do you want you are able to make that happen you know something i always say to everyone women is that you cannot control the events and circumstances of your life but you can control your reactions which is exactly what you are showing with your three pillars you've proven this and and i want to dive into the fact that i mean you even have been able to control toxins in your body and then people thought that oh that's a freak of nature or you've got some special gene but then you train 12 people in four days to do the same thing so i mean this is phenomenal stuff that people need to as you so rightly said we need to learn it i've just finished my 18th book and throughout that book i'm saying this is a skill the mind is this mind management is a skill that you need to learn and develop we need to teach from young it's almost like we use our minds but we've stamped out how to really use our minds you know that's what i what you do you teaching us how to really use our minds in the most phenomenal way so do you mind just giving the three pillars for those that aren't familiar with your method which is very few
with your method which is very few people the three pillars and then let's really dive into the science so we already explained now a little bit on the mindset that's the mind that is one pillar directly related to the one pillar is our biochemistry how can you change your biochemistry it is through these breathing techniques and these breathing techniques came very naturally to me when you namely when you go into the cold water the first thing you do is you breathe deep you automatically go deeper into your breathing to resist the stress of the cold water it's a natural thing if you are struck by all if something has happened oh it's automatically but we forgot in our stressful by thought thought ruled way of life to breathe deep we are more controlled by thinking than by feeling our body and in our body there is the all the fuel we need to make all the changes by the mind so a right body the right chemistry through breathing techniques enables the mind to travel with the neurotransmitters of their mind will activated by the will to process anything that is happening in the body namely in alkaline environment the right ph degree is a excellent platform for our mind to rule over the body that is killer number two that is the breathing pillar number three is the cold they're called trains our cardiovascular system which is like 70 000 miles
which is like 70 000 miles inside everybody everybody has millions of little muscles going along the capillaries the veins and the arteries helping the heart to make the blood flow transported with nutrients oxygen and vitamins and the life force itself to all the cells when it and when it reaches all the cells you get a lot more light more or more electricity a lot more energy atp adesina triphosphate we are able to influence all that and with that we have the transportation system in control the which is the vascular system i always say this the cold shower a day keeps the doctor away even the doctors are doing this because this is naturally how to awaken and optimize your cardiovascular system i did it this morning this this doctor did it this morning i did my cold shower i did my wim hof breathing so i'm ready for this interview lovely lovely it's all about love in the end because you know when you are in love you don't ask yourself is what is love is this good yes or no should i do it yes or no what actually is love and is it bio catholic you don't question anything you fly and that's sanity sanity it is to spiritually to feel more than you think the love for life to be driven to go and attain your goals because you got super powers because you don't feel normal you feel superb that is love for life so it is not about sentiment i want my
so it is not about sentiment i want my children to feel love for life and love for life is respect for life is valuing life and that should be schooled in the primary school in the secondary school and besides of that we can learn the history mathematics and language but only language mathematics and history is boring at a certain moment it doesn't fill up our presence anymore and this is lately the biggest issue with humanity the young people getting depressed they lost the connection with real life control real life purpose within and it's also directly here and now yes in us it's in us yes and they are have been directed so much into schooling video games smartphones it's all to the external it's all external and it's a message of if you have everything and you've got to get it in it's not as i said in the beginning it's not outside in its inside out so if you write inside then you can appreciate those in balance but if you're using those to find your inner peace you'll never find it exactly and so all this outward way of orienting with our mind creates a biochemistry which is depleting our inner biochemical nourishment and that creates inflammation that becomes depression and we will show that that's one of my studies i'm doing right now with elisa that we will show that breathing and a cold shower a day and then your mindfulness you know these techniques and we can talk about that too reminding that you know hey it is not complicated enlightenment and being happy and being strong and being healthy and to understand it a full full
full scope because you are the owner of your own mind exactly you design the interior of your mind you actually design it and we have been directed so much to the outer world that we have no awakening of the inside faculties of our body and mind and now for that we come here and we show that people within four days we're capable of controlling and influencing deeply into the autonomic nervous system into the endocrine system the hormonal system and into the immune system and if there is a big issue right now that's the immune system can can we control and awaken and activate much more control and much more power within our own immune system yes it's there it's true you've you've shown it you've done it multiple times you've done it for years and now you've got the scientist nobel prize winning scientist working with you we've just finished as i said this clinical trial and we saw the people with severe depression had tried everything and they've grown sleeping they weren't online their brains showed flatline they were flatline literally giving up on life and within four days we started seeing major change within seven days another major change within 21 days total neuroplastic change in the brain sustained at 63 days sustained at six months telomere increasing significantly transformational changes significant in the immune system as well drops in homocysteine drops in cortisol significant across the board this is actual science this is a reality you know that mindset thing we've been so conditioned in the last 60 years and it's really happened because before that six years before that we were much more spiritual we've become so less focused on the spiritual because of the way classical science has gone that we've forgotten about mindfulness and
we've forgotten about mindfulness and the spirit which is 99 of who we are and when you do that you're removing such a huge part of the human element and then we look around and wonder why people are depressed and anxious and not coping and dying younger and alzheimer's turning up at 55 dementia starting early all these things and in inflammation based issues because we're not using our minds properly you're not using our inner power and you bring this down to such a practical level i'm on a bandwagon here i'm on my right yeah i see the excitement too and it's truly doing great work for so many people and simplifying it all it has arrived it is here at your doorstep it's there to your doorstep and it's knock knocking at your heavens door you know thoughts beautiful songs are written about love beautiful songs are written about the unlimited power of the mind beautiful songs are written about the life force and all and now we are able to embrace it and it's all through science it's non-speculative lee and now arrived here i ask the audience again what is your choice would you like to become happy strong and healthy and being able to not only embody it but also to pass it on to others which is an amazing gift it's love you got through these complicated matters through being a doctor i've been 40 years out in field work testing my body like a guinea pig and in the eyes in so many ways but now we come back with a message of love for the people that it is accessible that it is a matter of choice that it is a time to awaken to your own beautiful
time to awaken to your own beautiful mind and a beautiful heart coming to your power of your will and if you ask anybody in the world what do you want in the end he will say i want love love for life love for everybody exactly and you know women it's so interesting in science that nobel is nobel prize winning laureates that have said literally that we wired for love that there isn't a single cell structure organ system in our body that's not wired for life so when we're not accessing and we're not talking about the mushy mushy love that's part of it we're talking about living a life that is fulfilled that's what love is and those quantum physicists explain that those at our most basic level when you go down as you know when you go down to the waves of energy they call those love waves and me most in gravitational fields that have the values of love which has been shown by people like sir roger penrose who's a oxford mathematician he's a so he's a because he's so brilliant he's been acknowledged by the queen and has been knighted before his work on mathematics so this brilliant mathematician is saying we made of love and we live in love yet we in a time in humanity where we forgot to make forgotten to make that connection and that's why i think you and i just connect because we are seeing that this is the foundational formula we have to re-access this love power that's within us which is what you do with your methods and your they just brilliant when you do the wim hof method you change you transform and it's so quick yes it is quick and effective so much that they you know right now for example corona pandemic and all the power or you know to go to the moon and uh thinking about going to mars and making bridges and big towers everywhere and a cars and they can drive by themselves and we cannot beat something we cannot even see i say that we in nature has the answers answers in anything and that is in metaphysics and metadynamics it's all showing but now it is time to awaken
awaken awaken individually to that not only a couple of scientists in the laboratory setting showing through microscope hey that there is an alpha wave and that there is a metaphysical flat line and here comes in live and this is the way it all looks like no it is time that we take on individually all of us the ownership of our own mind own happiness strength and health and that is love it's unconditional love because it was their own ways and now we have the difference is that neurology now is different of 50 years ago we are able to make the leap now the awakening and see fully what it is coming back to the pandemic corona suddenly the whole society is paralyzed and we have to change our way of thinking one and a half meter from each other or two yards in england is all or two and a half yards everybody makes up and then the mouthpieces and changes no hands anymore it goes like this all that amen this is not necessary because we are able that what causes coronavirus to suppress it with our innate capacity to activate our immune system through breathing exercises talk about that science yes i will do that easy it is very simple we just break it down it's very simple in the end coronavirus damaging factor is interleukin number one number six number eight number eleven i looked it up and uh what have we uh one six eight and eleven that's the damaging factor of corona virus
corona virus it's inflammatory markers called interlochens yes and we have shown in our study in the red boat university after injection of the e coli bacteria to suppress interleukin number one number six number eight number eleven within a quarter of a hour i am saying my blood is still there and the blood of all the participants i trained within four days to control the e coli bacterias in a causing inflammation the interleukins to be suppressed after thousands who could not suddenly 12 persons 100 percent why are they not taking this up hey i don't think people have heard what you said i'm just going to repeat it just in case yeah interleukin 1 4 6 1 6 8 and eleven yeah four of those those are the the immune factors that are responding to the viruses if we can suppress those or control those we can build up immunity against coronavirus now you've done research in the laboratory yeah a few years ago where you actually had been injected the e coli bacteria that actually activated the same interleukin factors one four six and eleven and one four which was it one four one six eight eight and eleven one six eight and eleven the same ones and with your mind within a few minutes you actually created the antibody where you basically the immuno used the immune sup you suppressed it you used to press the response and wipe literally wiped it out and it's the blood is still there and you didn't experience any of the side effects now this is all documented this is scientific research this is something that dr dad wimhoff speaks about there's lots of youtube videos that's in his book this is a documented published paper but then you took this further and you trained 12 people to do that so it wasn't just you being an absolute like genetic some kind of genetic special superhero
some kind of genetic special superhero it's you actually train 12 people to suppress the same bacteria talk about that i just wanted to emphasize that because people need to and people need to hear that that's it people need to hear this that it is not complicated it doesn't take billions and paralyzing economies and being in fear that we are out of control that we have no longer control over what is happening with pandemics and more pandemics can come because this world is changing and all that take away your fear guys you have so much more control but innately capacitated everybody is to take on viruses bacteria jeopardizing the metabolisms the the how do you say the homeostasis of our biochemistry inside we got our little warriors going on 1600 species of immune cells and through our mind we are able through our mind and breath we are able to activate the guardians the little sherlock holmes and they will hunt down to the beginning to the core any virus and any bacteria and that is there that is like preventative and when coronavirus begins to set into the body we are very capable of bringing the inflammation down and you did that they actually these you they injected you with the bacteria this is not something that you just tried out this has actually been a scientific study and you and you've still got your blood at the university they're still doing analyses of that another one is the mood mood our fear anxiety you know that we are out of control this has been shown this is literally being published after
published after they have been going with brain scans on me we now have the compelling evidence this is the way they published it in the conclusions now we have found the impelling evidence of the key components inside the of the autonomous processes in the brain so once again we have found the compelling evidence of the key components of the autonomous processes in the brain related to mood regulation that's what you want when when you are depressed you are out of record and mood to regulation now you you can bring it back we found the keys guys depression psychosis feeling bad emotional emotions all that we found the keys how to unlock your potential inside your own mind and create neurological pathways to control a wrong emotion we should be happy people happy beings that's the way nature build us to be and now we found evidence-based the keys how to unlock yourself to work those areas of the brain to control your own beautiful mood which happiness is a beautiful mood and it should never be jeopardized that's another one i love what you're saying there because that's one of the things in my 38 years of research that you know you talk about how you use yourself as a guinea pig i in essence did the same thing i did some very hard course clinical trials and evidence research basement then i went in for 25 years in south africa i was living there and i studied every population that i could i worked in the field i didn't go into labs i work with people that were traumatized under the apartheid system with the effects of racism i work with wealthy people i work with people you're touching on something across the board yeah
board yeah across the board i work with people from every strata culture that i could get my hands on and i wanted racism is also stress yes total stress it is our cell biological stress exactly we found ways to deal with it in the end nobody wants to be not happy exactly that state of not being you know because within your happiness you can have periods where you down enough but you know how to control it so when you can get a handle on your mind and use kickstarters like your method puts you it unblocks that ability to let people get stuck the techniques that i developed are very much oh are cognitive but they are metacognitive in other words they're very spiritual i i did a lot of work on the non-conscious mind and how that's where our wisdom is and our intelligence is and how to tap into that through self-regulation so you're talking about mind where you're self-regulating i talk a lot about self-regulating so it's very similar stuff so we both and i'm stressing this because both of us women i only met recently and and i'm talking to the viewers now but both of us for years have been working on showing people the power of the mind and now we've come together in this age which is amazing and both of us have found the same kind of results when you use the mind you can influence you have control to be able to cope with the things of life to control that resilience i love how you explain the breathing what it does and i wanted to ask you yes you're doing it now and can you explain how that activates in our bone marrow how it releases the t and the b cells you just have a great way of explaining it help people to see because people think of breathing what does it really do i breathe all the time can you talk about that and maybe even walk us through a little breathing exercise if you would yes yes of course but it's bloody great to see you having tapped into the same area of regulating our beautiful emotion emotion should be a pearl and not some stone inside like stone heart we should be living and brilliantly living
living and brilliantly living you have got to the same i love it so i am acknowledging that thank you for sharing that is great so how does these breathing techniques that work and how are we able to tap into the deepest part of the brain which was considered to be inaccessible as well as our bone marrow how to activate bone marrow white cells t cells b cells all those things i had people with cancer breast cancer several cases coming to me explaining that they had a too low level of white cells to be able to go into treatment so you need a certain quotient of white cells to go into chemotherapy otherwise they amputate your breasts and it can jeopardize even more the cancer cannot be treated that that is the thing in science the paradigm there is no way for these women to get their right amount of white cells and there is no treatment in science who is able to activate white cells and then being able to treat these people with life-dangering diseases like this breast cancer they came to me and they said and they came after doing this method but these breathing techniques i will shortly explain after but how brilliant how simple how powerful this is is that these women were completely healed of their breast cancer because they were able to get into chemo after one week of doing these breathing exercises they ignited 20 fold times the white cells
20 fold times the white cells within their bone marrow through these breathing exercises so now that's just one cornerstone and it should be out there in science it's phenomenal yeah yeah it is and people did it get written up as a paper did it get written these were people women who came afterwards to me and this was no just by chance oh happens this was a spontaneous remission this is what they all say always oh spontaneous remission you man this is cancer we are talking something which was insolvable it was insultable people are not able to get into the bone marrow and to multiply the white cells when it is necessary in that life and dangerous situation it is not there and now it's there and how so people should get onto this look at the white blood cell amount how it increases from a novice who never did the method or this and then 20 fold within one week that is going right into the bone marrow and so in the bone marrow we are able if we are able to change the biochemistry inside of the bone marrow and that is only done when there is a live endangering situation but now it is at will because when we do these breathing techniques we get into 30 times deeply in letting go very simple we are doing this consciously we are humans and we are able to do this a gazelle or an elephant or even a monkey is not doing this they are not able that is our mind our self-regulatory ability you were talking about the mind is capable of stopping the breath first through deep breathing which is
first through deep breathing which is almost like unnatural but in nature it is not unnatural but because we wear clothes we are desensitized from nature from pressure from cold from heat it's no longer this is life i'm talking live and at this deep breathing if you now do this like 30 times deeply in letting go very at ease and let me tell you yeah doing this breathing technique it has been compared in scientific study wherein people were being measured in their blood about the amount of adrenaline going inside of the blood by doing the first bungee jump they ever in their lives so like 10 people or 20 people went for the first time into a bungee jump the blood was taken out of them and they measured the adrenaline that must be enormous you know first time into a bunker jump and then they measured the amount of adrenaline of people lying on the ground doing this breathing technique and it showed that they activated more adrenaline than those going into the first monkey jump of their lives you see and what happens when you are in when you see a serpent on the ground your adrenaline shoots out boom you are at your best of functionality at that moment wrong cells are recycled stem cells are activated cancer cells are being suppressed or apoptosis you know cell death and it happens instantaneous but we have alienated from that nature we have no
from that nature we have no of the not of these moments anymore but now through these breathing techniques you are able to construct a life endangering situation for your biochemistry while feeling sort of high you do feel high you actually that's the experience that i had doing it when i started it i was actually quite the first time around you need to prepare yourself mentally because if you do it properly you get that tingling you do you feel like you're almost floating but the impact for the rest of the day is is powerful yes and that is our biochemistry when it is reset so the adrenaline is resetting the biochemistry yes and anything that is needed at that moment is being done that's why you feel so good that's why it resulted i feel lighter feel better yeah that's your biochemistry biochemistry in the ant is the neurotransmitters and the neurotransmitters is electricity so you feel light you are the light that's that's what it is and that's what we are but now we are able to influence a lot of love is light love is when you measure people who are in love man those neurotransmitters oh just shooting through the body so that and that's sanity because then you can't become strong nothing can hold you you just go this way that way until you reach your goal and then this time your goal is being the best of yourself and that is to reset anything that needs to be done inside of the body and mind this is through the breathing being done even on a subconscious level because the subconscious level the mind our brain is the seed of the
the mind our brain is the seed of the mind and we are able to reset the biochemistry so we also go into the subconsciousness so but anything that needs to be done is being activated up to all the parts of the body in this case it was with the white cells and the t cells and the b cells to do like to give specific answers to say invaders we don't like so we need t cells and b cells and we have shown this already how to increase this and how to bring this about in the same study they also showed the lymphocytes the logocytes the white cells neutral fields it all what went up you know it has so many answers in the end it is simple you do the breathing well you are able to go in live endangering situations they measured with the oxymeter oxymeter they measured where people normally die is at 40 50 saturation oxygen level in the blood we go to 30 and below and we still feel high the that is tricking the brainstem that is tweaking the brainstem because it is reactionary when the oxygen amount a level first a lot and you become alkaline so nothing wrong is happening with the body ph levels stay superb but the oxygen level after one and a half minutes retention they go drastically down to levels where people normally die and now you are fully in control you feel high but what does the brainstem is deeply being activated and that is
is deeply being activated and that is the patty grey hemisphere the endocannabinoid system control over pain control over euphoria a control over a dopamine a serotonin any all those things suddenly are regulated how simple it is let's resume as they breathe in they are basically activating the the deepest part of the brainstem the pag which is the periodical gray and that is then stimulating this neurotrans control over the neurotransmitters so activating the endorphins and the inca in the cannabinoids and and then the other the serotonin dopamine so you're controlling the hor these neurotransmitters which are hormonally based and you influencing your immune system so by breathing differently where you stress your body you can actually 40 is where people normally die and you're taking it down to 30. so there's no fear you don't have to be fearful because you're not going to die it even shut down the the measurement devices shut down because they think the person is completely dead this is not possible this is what it is saying and this is the lowest level of the measurement device and then it shuts down because the it's not able to measure that i'm evil going even below levels of these measurement devices so and that is for the brain it is like the person is in real real danger we have to make him the best now we have to get the best we got the reset we got adrenaline shoots out and then the body is able to defy bacteria virus anything and not only that this is incredible and not only that is it changes that you're making stress work for you so then your cognitive functioning changes as well because people always think stress is bad for your brain but actually when you are in the if you shift your mindset you make that work for you which is what you're just describing through the breathing you're making the stress system which is designed to help you and not damage you just by the correct mindset doing that breathing and now that means
doing that breathing and now that means you can go into that you can follow that physiological reaction with a cognitive reaction and make better decisions and this is where i've developed a five-step process which are the techniques that you then apply cognitively to make sure that you make the correct follow-through in your reaction so whatever your actions are your words are in other words whatever neuroplasticity you take advantage of to build the right thought pattern so that all neural networks so that you can actually speak and do the right action so it's a combination and a flow we control this we direct this and you know i want to ask you one thing quickly over this coronavirus period there's been a lot of people times that the doctors have taken using oxymetes and they've found that people's oxygen levels are below and but they're sitting there like normal they're not dying and they think they said you should be dead but because you don't have enough oxygen they actually are not they yes they're in hospital but they get and a lot of those people are the ones that actually survived i'm just listening to you say this and i'm putting two and two together that's something about the stress that their body went through with the virus something about whatever they was going on in that person their oxy their oxygen levels had dropped but it actually boosted the immune system to fight the coronavirus yes and you're talking about the mind the five steps program that is part of top-down regulation and this was considered to be not done we get it from down it comes to us and then we do something no now you're able to do top down regulation and this is what you learn when you go into these breathing techniques and you go in consciously into the stress you create a neurological pathway to the stress mechanisms in the sides of the brain and whenever you need it you can turn it on brilliant activating my research on the non-conscious mind is dynamic self-regulation where the intelligence is and then the conscious mind is active self-regulation so what you're teaching us with your method and what i try and teach with mind is you use active self-regulation to activate the dynamic
self-regulation to activate the dynamic self-regulation the two come together and then you have this biochemical response this neurophysiological response in your brain and your body and you control it the whole time that's where the self-regulation comes in and then all these amazing things happen which is just phenomenal yes great going yeah caroline the thing is they should name a state you got north carolina south carolina and then we got a new state the caroline i like the state of carolina i like it that is all great and people have to understand that their negative thoughts have impact and now everybody is able to be positively going on with themselves know that there is a choice and that choice now through these techniques scientifically endorsed you are able now to make the difference and to learn to self-regulate top down within yourself get into this and any scientists listening to this podcast prove me wrong exactly i agree with you i have to tell you this one more you know what i've done i've just finished my 18th book and it's in edit at the moment and throughout the book i always talk about how you've got to prepare your brain too and i love how you describe now you've got to actually dive into that stress and activate that to make it work for you and not against you otherwise the stress will work against you if you don't control it and that's kind of what you're saying so i have said in in each of my before the five step starts you prepare with the guess what wim hof method thank that's my favorite i said you can do what you want but the wim hof method is the best one and that's what i use anyway i just wanted to throw that in there love it thank you why because it is endorsed by non-speculative evidence-based proof this is no guys this is gucci this is this
this is this just take it on life is life and we want it and in the matters of now with the corona of our virus with the racism with the sub hey man own your own mind be in love with the planet with yourself with your family members and with all living beings existent on this planet because it has arrived exactly exactly we can use this combination of methods the women have three pillars and the five steps of the mind mentioned that fafsa process you can actually then access the non-conscious mindsets that are racist that you don't even know that are there that are culturally and societally being imprinted over generations that you think oh i'm not racist but actually there's all these thought patterns oh i'm not prejudiced and we can actually and that's toxic and damaging to the brain and the body and you can actually find those pull them up and dismantle them doing brains i always tell people that i teach you to do brain surgery but there's no blood so that's kind of what my steps do that's the brain surgery without the blood but it's exciting exactly this is what i say also guys this is brain surgery i do you do upon yourself you are a surgeon and there it is and then we explain that it is not difficult that we have learned to make things difficult too many thoughts too many patterns too many schooling too many too much rubbish too many rules as well yes too much confusion the people in power create confusion divide and conquer amen it is time you become the king you become the queen you are the emperor you are the master of your mind you are the captain of your soul take charge because it is electricity it is the light and it is yours exactly i voted for mandela when he came into power the captain of
when he came into power the captain of your soul the invictus poem that he quotes a lot and that is we have to be the captain of our soul we have to recognize and we have to recognize that once we the captain of our soul we operate in love like you keep saying and when you operate in love then you recognize it's not just about you it's about you in the world that's true love is the impact of you in the world and then you can really start changing things that's why you and i are so passionate about this is because we recognize that once you release the power within you operate in true love and it naturally outflows into the world and you impact others in a positive way and it's not rude and the thing is you very fast you will feel you have enough for yourself and then automatically it flows over and and then suddenly you see people becoming happy in your presence you begin to heal people because we are born to be holy not half holy only everybody it's like they talk about the corona is also the aura another name for the aura you know aura when you own your own brain and you're able to optimize the neurological sanity of your own brain then the electricity is like a corona it's beautiful we have shown this in germany in one of the best brain scans of the world great scans guys scientists have been showing doing these breathing techniques made these people suddenly able to change and optimize the biochemistry and the neurological flow within the brain not 16 control at will 100 100 like they were on lsd wow that's phenomenal you know this is so so exciting because thoughts are real things this is something that i teach in my work they look like trees thoughts grow in the dendrites and the
thoughts grow in the dendrites and the neurons not in the connections between synapses which most people think you actually grow them in two little computers inside little protein things called the tubulin and so it's a vibration it's a light energy so everything that we learn everything we processing from the time we open our eyes we're building this experience into thoughts in our brain and those thoughts are real little proteins that are like little computers that cluster together to form branches called dendrites on the neurons and you des that's neuroplasticity and it's those little thoughts that then produce your words and your actions so as you do the three pillars of the wim hof method as you do like the five steps that whatever when you get your mindset set you are actually building physical structures in your brain that are healthy i always use these trees um this is a toxic thought can you see this wiry looking thing this is a toxic thought i cannot understand why this generates the the aura that you're talking about it's not something weird all of these are energy be alive because you have energy so this that generates an electromagnetic and a quantum energy it's einstein's work equals mc squares it's the photons of energy and if this is toxic you actually generate toxic photons toxic energy and that's why we feel that whereas if we do the healthy here i've got a little plant that i always use to show healthy there's the healthy thought which is generating the healthy i mean so those are the analogies i use but it's what you're saying the reason i've brought that in now is because my listeners and viewers understand the concept of thoughts because i teach it all the time so i'm linking what you are saying when you're talking about auras it's what this thing generates a toxic photons toxic aura this generates which is brain damage and it messes up your immune system in the ways you've described and this generates the healthy aura or the healthy photons the little packets of energy so that's just to orientate the listeners and just undergo what you've just said so brilliantly so we're going to do an exercise yes okay so the exercise is very complicated it's a very esoteric it's very secretive all to knowledge just breathe okay are you relaxed there we are everybody relaxed okay a relaxed
everybody relaxed okay a relaxed body opens up in the tissue it relaxes that's why i asked ever just be relaxed okay make sure it's all wiggled off i'm gonna lean back in my chair yes yeah good here we are so we got our belly we got a chest we are able to fill up the gravity of our lungs by using the power of our belly and our chest so we take it fully and like keep on going 30 times fully in and then you let it go only let it go not fully out but boolean letting go here letting go don't be afraid go fully in letting go you become light-headed loose in the body tingling anything that feels different go and keep on going anything that feels different breathe into it make it stronger intensify what you feel and fully letting go we are changing the chemistry deeply we are blowing up the carbon dioxide effectively we are becoming alkaline
effectively we are becoming alkaline even in the lymphatic system thought of inaccessible we are getting through the lymphatic nuts into the depth of the lymphatic system right now keep on going get your mind into the breathing that's all there is only one thing that is the breath is the life force get in with the life force become one with the life force this is no hypnosis no hocus pocus this is the magic of your physiology and you are with your mind in control of that life force changing your chemistry inside the body we do ten more we are different now we have changed the biochemistry eight more boolean letting go and fully in letting go whatever is different make it even stronger five more letting go four boolean letting go three brilliant letting go two pulling letting go one here comes the last one boolean let it go and stop after the exhalation stop close your mouth be witness it's all right there is no need for breathing whatsoever your body is very alkaline into the lymphatic the deepest of yourself into the bone marrow you right now
into the bone marrow you right now are making the change because what happens now is that the oxygen level while you're being at ease in control your oxygen level is going down now the subconscious the deep matters the deep physiology is going to work and you are conscious so you are connecting neurologically with those deep physiological states of mind and body everywhere to the cell to the dna to the telomeres to the cold shock proteins the heat shock to the primordial cell condition you are reactivated because you should be in full full stress right now and still without breathing after exhalation and it's all happening and this is the study we are doing with elisa and that is a new foundation okay breathe in and squeeze it to your head to bring the blood flow through the spine to the periaqueductal to the brainstem limbic system and three two one you let it go that's round number one in round number one we went like 60 70 80 seconds i was not really counting but i was talking while you without force like anybody who was participating following this breathing technique was able to activate a very high stress to the biochemistry of the brain and the body while being in control and being sort of high so your whole the adrenaline spiked
so your whole the adrenaline spiked and reset at your body in any issue you got outside of your consciousness and you did that consciously that is affecting the subconscious levels and this all needs to be investigated because it cannot be so simple it cannot be so strong it is so simple get your head around it that stress and stress mechanisms of your body and your mind are within your reach and when you are able to control your stress you become confident and you will radiate confidence that is the sixth sense that is confidence is the ability to be able to react in any situation the right way that is confidence because your sick sense already knows what is going to happen in two days two hours two minutes two billion two milliseconds it's all in our subconscious we have our confidence that he is going to do it and this is what i have been learning by climbing without gear steep rocks or swimming under the eyes and testing out the power of intention i get an intention okay that challenge i'm gonna do everybody is saying this is not possible you cannot climb mount everest in your shorts that is not possible you cannot swim 100 meters under the ice breath hold in your shorts this is not possible you cannot stay hours in direct contact with freezing cold you cannot hang by one finger in the winter in two kilometers up up there in the sky when the dexterity of the fingers is not there because it is too cold and then hanging by one finger holding 90 kilos like 180 pounds
holding 90 kilos like 180 pounds that is not possible i say much more is possible everything is possible because we are built to be able to cope with anything that comes to us because we have a beautiful mind and a beautiful body that's incredible that this what you've just said is so empowering so helpful so simplistic but it's doing such incredibly complex things in our body and it's connecting that that non-conscious mind with the conscious mind through the subconscious mind and it's in a directed self-regulated way you know you there's a lot of research now showing because they've tried you know they always try to take say free will there's been a strong move in the last 40 years 50 years to say that free will is an illusion what you with your work when i was my work but you're showing that free will is not an illusion that you choose and as you choose to self-regulate you change how you function and there's some very recent research also showing that 10 seconds before you actually function or say something or do something it's already happening in your non-conscious level so by doing these techniques you're accessing that and i showed with my research that when you are your non-conscious level this wisdom this intelligence is actually picked up in the brain so the non-conscious level in the brain are actually more are happening doing things already before you consciously aware and if you can direct that and get that connected you can function on another level and you show that with your techniques i mean hanging with one finger holding 90 i can't even like picture that these are impossible feats but you've done this you hold 26 guinness world records is that right 26. yeah yes yes and so many more challenges i did a very playful you know this is the power of our mind the power of how to regulate and reset our subconscious and consciousness yeah both through our conscious will through our consciousness conscious world a conscious free world that's what we're saying is our conscious free will we can
saying is our conscious free will we can reset our body and then we prepare ourselves mentally to do because it puts us in the correct mindset to then achieve whatever it is that we need to achieve and we can do that and we can have a sense of peace and happiness through that process oh i love it when we speak the same language i mean it's that internal peace is there you can i call it freaking out in the love zone so bad things can be happening and and you can be freaking out but you're still operating in that love zone you're still operating in that sense of peace because you know that you can do it yes i i lost once my way under the eyes i lost away and it's like being in short breath hold is a yard of ice cap above you and you are trying to find the way i never felt anxiety i i didn't drown i was in control and this is what the breathing does it resets and then suddenly the subconscious and the consciousness they come together they serve you it nature did not give us a brain that is not working for us it near we need to school our children that we have a brain that is hundred percent serving us and that it is beautiful and that happiness strength and health is all a matter of activating at will being able to go according the natural laws of mother nature and that is to be happy to be strong and to be healthy be control owning our own mind is the logical thing the rest is is serving your system our schooling and brutality and this and that it's all serving a system which is sodomizing the planet exploiting the planet polluting the planet and and making a mockery out of love what is love and powerful love the
what is love and powerful love the we should give this back to the children the new generations should know we you are the owner of your own mind 100 percent not 99 100. now up till now it was 16 it is no longer these are fairy tales the wrong ones these are things made us they they brainwashed us and we're gonna wash the brain now and bring the right purity of the mind to the control of every person in the world that is love that is how it should be and it's not this complicated process it does take time but it's it's the simplicity that is so beautiful in this the simplicity is creating this effectiveness and it happens quickly but it has to be sustained so it's not that there's a quick fix because we're also in that quick fix mentality in this modern era but it's so it's we've got to be recognized that we have the ability to self-regulate learn how to self-regulate train our self-regulatory skills and then to get it going is actually very simple and very quick and then then the work comes in the sustainability and the development of that but once you've got it once you get a sense of your control and this is what i also showed in my clinical trials once you show people autonomy when it's unreal when you show people autonomy and that starts coming within four to seven days then they get control then they get awareness autonomy changes awareness which controls toxic thinking which controls toxic stress which increases well-being it's a total pathway to empowerment so there we go that's what we're doing i love it i absolutely love it what is our yes but what we should make this a study yes let's do a study yeah let's do this we should think about a possible study and possibly with the elissa as well yes that's what i was thinking a combined study where we take your three pillars we add on the five steps and we show the changes in the telomeres the physiology the immune system we use fmri's qegs all of it we do a design study to show people that this combination is absolutely i mean you've shown it i've shown it we put it together you have a
shown it we put it together you have a life skill that we can teach from absolutely the earliest ages across all spheres of life so let's do this let's do it amazing depression is on the uh on the rise and it's it's a real pandemic let's attack that one well exactly and that's it's an anxiety too and they're seen as illnesses but they're not illnesses they are sadly they are showing a mismanaged mind they're showing the disconnect that you've been speaking about the disconnect between the conscious and the non-conscious mind the disconnect in that basic primordial state the disconnect from love when you disconnect from who you are spiritually you're going to land up in that state you know and it's the breath just as this came to my head a quote from the bible job 32 8 talks about we need the breath of life you know that's what you're talking about we need that breath of life quantum physics is all about that that breath that energy we need to reconnect with that energy that wisdom again and the mathematicians the quantum physicists the scientists all from every walk the biologists all different types of scientists are coming together to show that this is true so let's do this one let's let's do a study let's change the world i love it yes this is amazing there is the power not about it's just together absolutely this is amazing okay guys everyone has to get this book this is one of the required reading if you follow me the wim hof book and where can they get hold of your book and where can they get hold of you you have a free app to learn this breathing you all over youtube tell people how they can easily access everything yes there is a book coming out at 20 october i think yes hey guys i'm not a reader i'm more writer than a reader when i was young i read a lot of books right now i'm not reading any book anymore but i'm writing and i do a lot of podcasts i get the essence of your book through talking with you and now i found out through this spiritual conversation i have with you because i it jolted into me man
with you because i it jolted into me man this conversation jolted this is nice because your energy comes to me your brainwave comes to me i love it and there is so much more here possibly becoming and let's do this yes of course this book is good guys but i tell you take it up because you will see this our findings it's a book about 40 years of field work coming into science into a book it was out of the books and anything any answer we were looking for it is not in the books this is 40 years of field work inside of a book this is it it says only awakening you of your power within and it's there for the catch day for the catch you better take you've even got a 20-minute cure for hangovers in this book oh yeah oh man you do this you know how that came about yes oh yeah this is about toxins a hangover alcohol residue in the body creates toxins and that's what you feel in the morning okay the nice party is gone and now you get the hangover so let your hangover have a hangover like eliminate your hangover within 20 minutes of breathing this breathing and it's gone just on that little thing it should it's worth a book already fantastic that's worth it that's fantastic and they can find you on youtube they can find we'll put all the links in the show notes when this is just the beginning of many conversations i'm so excited i hope everyone has caught our excitement and see that this power within is real it's not something or weird it is pure scientific energy
or weird it is pure scientific energy inside of us love energy that the world needs now thank you my friend it's been amazing thank you caroline thank you so much speak soon
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Anxiety and low mood are often discussed as if they live only in thought. The body tells a broader story. Breath rhythm, muscle tension, temperature, inflammation, and sleep all shape mental state. Breathwork gives the mind a physical doorway back into regulation.
cold exposure removes abstraction. Sensation becomes immediate. The practice is to breathe, soften, and stay present while the body asks to escape. This is mental training in its most direct form.
Stress biology and immune activity influence one another. Practices that improve regulation may support resilience, but they are not replacements for clinical care. The grounded promise is agency: a repeatable ritual that helps the body organize itself.
The goal is not to overpower the body. It is to build trust. A useful practice leaves the nervous system clearer, steadier, and more capable of meeting the next moment.
The body adapts best when the challenge is deliberate and the return to calm is protected.
Use breath as the first intervention when stress rises.
Keep cold exposure short enough that you can stay composed.
For anxiety or depression, treat these tools as supportive rituals alongside appropriate professional care.
