Scottish Ex-Commando to Wim Hof Method: Icebaths & Breathwork — Full Transcript

00: 00 put in a big hall with like 250 other guys and you're like okay strip down your boxers head shaved set coveralls say boots welcome to the British army and once you start looking at the word soldier you actually look at the meaning behind the word soldier it's so dire for a soul killer it's not really bullying I mean it's like they're training you train you to do the most horrible job in the world and that's to take a life and not feel anything with about you're sending good men to go and do bad jobs any care and attention or or love that you have in your body and I mean eradicate that out of your personal completely and basically getting turned into a kill machine. We're so disconnected from our our spiritual world. I mean regardless like to what religion it is or who we believe. It's one of the biggest profound shifts that I had when I first found the Wolf method was like my goodness there is something else out here in the universe. Whatever it is I mean there's another energy. I've got bowls there and I went found out the frequencies and obviously these seven bowls are all in tune with your chakras. Each chakras got a frequency. There was kind of a light bulb moment. I was like, "Okay, I've retrained the capillaries in my hand for more blood flow." And I was like, "Okay, there's

01: 00 flow." And I was like, "Okay, there's something behind this that I actually started having these spiritual moments, these changes consciousness through drugs." Here was me having them through breath work. And I'm like, "What the hell?" And there's there's something in this. Hey everyone, I hope you enjoyed today's cinematic. Before we dive into the podcast, I just want to take the time to ask you to please like and subscribe to this channel. This will help us grow the podcast, invite more guests on and share their wisdom as we grow, eliminating dialogues. I also want to share with you that I'm offering onetoone coaching. This is a space where we navigate together to clarify your vision, align yourself to your values, and achieve transformation. If you feel called for that, you can book a session with me on my website, juty. com. There should be some testimonials as well there. The links

02: 00 testimonials as well there. The links are in the description below. And also there's a link for for you to join our WhatsApp community as well where you can discuss these episodes. So I hope you enjoy the rest of the podcast ahead. Hello everybody and welcome to illuminating dialogues number 47 where I have the pleasure to sit down and dial with Darren Adam today aka Tartan Ice. How are you doing man? And where are you coming from? Uh, Hungry, thanks Joey. Yeah, um, I'm out here in Abington, just uh, south of Glasgow. Yeah, in between nearly in the borders, so yeah, I'm a nice part of the countryside. Awesome, man. Well, the sun is shining today. I don't know if it's shining for you. Yeah. Just as you said that, the the clouds have broke and it's starting to come in through the window. So, I've got a real

03: 00 through the window. So, I've got a real bit of heat as well. lesson. So, I'm so excited to to sit down and chat with you because we first met in the we retreat and you mentioned so many things about your journey, Mo, and like spiritual journey, emotional journey, physical journey that I thought it'd be so nice to just have a chat and share that with everyone as well because I think you have so much wisdom and you've been through so much in your journey. So before we dive into you know Wimhof method um sadin chili breath work all that good stuff being an excommando um this podcast is called illuminating dialogues it's really a space to journey together to a place we haven't gone before and hopefully illuminate ourselves and also the listeners as well. So that being said, my first question to you, Dar crystal clear. My first question to you is what lights you up. Oh, obviously

04: 00 now it's uh life itself now and where life's taking me now. And it's as we'll find out now. And it's uh trying to be more connected to the earth and being in nature. That's that's the real key for me now. It's and when I don't I can actually feel like that the disconnection from it is massive. So it's for me it's important to be at least in in the grass or in the cold at least uh like every day. So yeah know and then from there it's uh obviously my son but again coming from the heart leading from the heart as well. Yeah, that's super powerful. And one of the things I found since co times is like I never connected much to nature before. But when I started to connect

05: 00 before. But when I started to connect more with nature, I started to notice how much in the main bulb it was and other people were and then like nature is basically my life lifeline. So I really like love what you shared. Um, and I'm just wondering if you could help um share kind of your journey into how did you start to join the ex command uh the command sorry how did that whole journey start of of just going in and from your early teenagehood if you could share with us. Yeah. And it's uh grew up pre pre - internet, pre-mobile phones, pre-digital. The only digital thing we had was a watch at the time. I reckon uh the late 80s uh uh started getting into let's see like acid house music when it first started. And I was only like 13 14 at the time then went through as young kids

06: 00 time then went through as young kids there teenagers we didn't were quite mischievous and I mean but then we started uh experiment recreational drugs h through the rap scene but then that led leads to other things now and it's like okay now I mean it's like it led us into like like crime and stuff like that and it was like car crime was like there's more to life than this. uh three of my friends got arrested and jailed uh and a few of them had joined the army and I could see the difference. It was a kind of light bulb moment where it was like at that young age uh 16 17 year old I thought well I've got two choices in my life I can either join the the army uh or go to jail. So at that point my choice was to go and join the army cuz I mean school had totally failed me now. It's like found out when I was 33 uh that was dyslexic and throughout my

07: 00 uh that was dyslexic and throughout my my school education at the time it's not like today. I mean where these they run tests for the kids and stuff like it's more recognized back then it wasn't. It was just you were just called stupid. Uh so are told to go on with her or you put in like a like the special education class. Again you felt discriminated in Pinos areas but again that's what led me to join the military. Thanks for sharing that. And I know from conversation with my mom she's born in Glasgow as well and um like through conversation with her and her generation like they were just saying like if you just it's very was very rigid. So if you're basically this little big guy in there in that system, in that matrix, you're basically like not honored or you're not part of that system. And why do you think like a lot of young men um go into crime? Is there like nothing else I think for them to go into or I think they maybe see it as uh it could

08: 00 I think they maybe see it as uh it could be one way or they might be feeding an addiction uh which is obviously but we see addictions as well that's people get have addictions because they're suppressing something emotionally uh but again if not I mean it's uh I think it's a lot of disconnection from uh their family now and it's they're not getting emotional attention or support from their their caregivers, their parents and their caregivers cuz I know me personally I mean that time when I was growing up I mean it was my dad's ex forces as well and having to and to show kind like there was a odd cuddle here and like that but nothing really nothing like loving uh my grandmother was very strict. Uh my grandfather was the one that gave me the most emotional support when I was a kid. But even at that, I mean it's uh

09: 00 But even at that, I mean it's uh it wasn't enough. Now I mean there's I wasn't brought up with my mother broke with my mother left me when I was uh 3 years old. Me and my sister she had like left me like abandoned us at my grandmother's doorstep. So that again there's all these adding factors that led they could lead somebody into crime now and they're but now later in life I look back on it and see right okay as parents and as the older generation now we have to look at and give there was a perfect example there I spoke about done a post on it the other day there and it was about uh how we get just put money in a birthday to a kid. Give them the kid the card and we hope that will satisfy their needs. But it's not going to satisfy their needs. What they really need is for you, for us as parents to switch your phones off and sit down and actually communicate with them and interact with

10: 00 communicate with them and interact with them. And you can and if we're not doing that, the kids are going to be feel well rejected and they've got to go out and they got to look for some something else to stimulate them. Uh and if if they are coming from like maybe a deprived background, I mean they're going to turn to as I know myself I mean we became like mischievous or we turned around to doing stuff that was kind of like antisocial. I mean the way you turn to drink and stuff like that and I mean hiding it and stuff like that. So yeah, I mean it's I I believe if we're going to really make a big difference in society in the future, we have to sit down look and look at our own behaviors and how we're connecting to or disconnecting from that kind of structure and family unit that we should be having with with our kids that that connection. So again, it's if we can disconnect, as much as technology is great, if we can disconnect from it and

11: 00 great, if we can disconnect from it and actually spend more quality time with with the younger generation, the kids, and saying to them like, okay, teaching them breath work and stuff like that, make them more connected and guiding them. uh again Glasgow especially Glasgow and and where there's the religious divides especially because of the football and there's so much uh associated with that kind of uh uh mindset that again if we can change that we could change a lot within society we could veer them off from getting into trouble. Yeah. Do you think that um religious divide or or like you're saying goes the football like plays in to any pain or emotional unavailability at all? Cuz I didn't make that connection before. Yeah. No, I I think it does. I mean, cuz we're we're brought up. I mean, like especially

12: 00 here now where we're like we're taught like boys don't cry, toughen up and stuff like that. And I was like that's wrong. We're we're actually human beings and we're we've got two tear ducts. Uh those tear ducts are there for emotional regulation and emotional processing now and that's what those just not to get dirt out our eyes. Uh and again it's it's teaching people I mean like I try and talk to veterans who are totally dehumanized now and this I think about breath work and stuff like how it's rehumanized me. It's allowed me to feel and again if we look at young the younger generations I think there there's because there is no emotional support at home uh they've got feelings and they're confused and they don't know what they are. So what do they do? They go out and they suppress them and again and once we start suppressing emotional feelings and stuff like that it turns to disease and we all know what

13: 00 it turns to disease and we all know what happens when down that path. So again, if we can start re-educating people and looking at them how how you say like let's connect back to like a proper family unit or a proper structure and interacting with people, talking and communicating. It is uh traditional ways. It's it's I think it's one of uh from the Amazon uh one of the Amazon tribes. they if somebody falls ill the village stops the whole village it's it's not just your your illness it's the village's illness that means we've they see it as like we've missed something for you to become ill uh and I when I heard that when I first heard that and read it now I mean I was like wow that's that's powerful that's that is a proper community like a pure not just a physical community like a consciously connected

14: 00 a consciously connected Uh, and it's like, okay, that's powerful. And if you think about, I've been delving into the history of Scotland, like the highlands and things, and I believe Scotland did have that like back in the day, maybe hundreds of years ago, maybe not too far in the distant past, but there was that community element who did have that. And um like I also noticed you had Gab Mati's book on on your Instagram as well like not why the um you know pain no not why the what was it pleasure why the pain something like that. Yeah. So there's always a pain behind everything. Yeah. It's like I was lucky enough to see Gabber uh last year out in Brat Lava and when he was talking about like ADHD and ADD uh anyway it's just so clear that it's

15: 00 uh anyway it's just so clear that it's when we look at it like ADD is attention deficit disorder. Where's the attention missing from? It's the attention missing from her parents to the child. And this is what he talks about. And you're like, "Okay, this ADHD, the kids hyperactive, screaming out for attention, causing problems because they're not getting emotionally regulated by their parents because the parents one don't know how to emotionally regulate themselves. So, how are they going to teach the kid how to do it?" And the kids playing up. Kid doesn't know what it's feeling. It's wanting support and nurtured. And this was a an amazing light bulb moment for me when I was sat there and I think it was for like the 1, 200 people that was in the room as well. They all just sat silent and they were like wow. Well, I was like right that. So if we can then turn our attention to supporting the child, helping the child to emotionally

16: 00 helping the child to emotionally regulate and understand what it's feeling and and nurture it at the same time. It's not going to have these dysfunctional behaviors or g means we don't have to then stay you've got a label and we don't have to pump them full of pharmaceutical chemicals. And it's like if you go looking back at the the indigenous tribes of like the First Nation and things like that, they don't have these problems. Why? Because they're a community. There's the emotional support they're all getting. And again, you you mentioned it going back to co. I mean, we're we're all told to separate. We need we're human beings. We we need a connection. touch and hold hands, hugs, we need that from the family unit. So, it's like the the connection has been replaced with the technology in the pharmaceutical industry. That's that's quite interesting connection. And we had

17: 00 quite interesting connection. And we had a lady called Satender Car from um Australia in episode 37 and she actually talked about she's occupational therapist and she talked about kids like especially for immigrant communities kids' um nervous system is not regulated. So she'd have to come in and basically help regulate that kid's nervous system. And often it's not really this um like hyperattention deficit disorder like you were saying. It is just a matter of the parents not having that knowledge or ancestral knowledge of how to regulate their own nervous system and then how to regulate the kids nervous system. Um so we'll get into the breath work and stuff. That's that's so true. I mean it's like I mean my whole life I I've been living in fight or flight mode. Uh again made more prominent because when I joined the military you're you're taught you're

18: 00 military you're you're taught you're they exaggerate that they take that point might take that point off you make you even more hyper vigilant. You're always on guard now and you're always scanning for the danger. Uh and that part even now like at 51 I'm trying to that's why like when I look at my breath work and things like that I'm down regulating my nervous system. I'm I'm basically to doing what you were saying there said now it's like retaching myself how to be a human because the military does totally dehumanize you not to feel anything. And you mentioned that when we were talking last time um last year that it dehumanizes you and I want to go deeper into that because we had a dialogue previously on like seek word use. It's like the tradition I'm coming from where they actually take musical instruments in the battlefield. So they fight during the day at night time they would sing. So

19: 00 day at night time they would sing. So that would regulate their nervous system. So that was like a way of kind of being human but at the same time fighting. So I'm wondering if you can paint the picture of like your journey. What was it like just being young going into the commandos? How was that to be among other men? What was kind of the mindset like? Yeah. It's well what's the 18-year - old I mean young lad from Scotland came down went down into London and walked through the camp gates and it was just instantly now you're like okay put in a a big hall with like maybe 250 other guys and you're like okay strip then your boxers put your bags in the corner strip head shaved say coveralls say boots welcome to the British army stayed there for 18 weeks.

20: 00 stayed there for 18 weeks. So now it's like in there is you hear about bullying and stuff like that and the army and stuff like that. The way I look at it is it's it's not really bullying. I mean it's like they're training you to do the most horriblest job in the world. uh and that's to take take a life uh and not feel anything with about it. And it's like they're sending good men to go and do bad jobs. Uh and it is it's it's the whole de dehumanizing of uh uh humanity any care and attention or or love that you have in your body. And I mean it will eradicate that out of your system completely. And I mean it all basically being turned into a killing machine. So and I've got nothing bad. I've never had a bad experience in the military. I mean I left the military after a motorbike crash and I've been looked after by

21: 00 crash and I've been looked after by them. But again it's it's through studying like psychology and the aftermaths of it and later in life I've now looked at it and seen what it actually that training that operant conditioning actually does to a human being. Uh and once you start looking at the word soldier and you actually look at the meaning behind the word soldier, it's soul dire or a soul killer. It's so annoying. That's what you're trained. If you look at the words, it's and I've just found this out over the last two years about that and it's always sat with me. Yeah. It's once you you're out you're we're not helped. A lot of guys are not helped. And again, I think these this is where holistic practices like breath work and things like that actually come in and in their beauty where they allow somebody with even children I mean with the disregulated nervous systems to

22: 00 disregulated nervous systems to reconnect back to their body. And it's it's so important for us like in the military you're you're trained not to feel anything. Uh we have to feel all the emotions and and be and reown how to feel them uh understand them and and express them properly. Uh and this is the beauty of it now. And it's where my path came to has now got me to this point. This is how I see the work that we're doing now is is actually helping people out there and especially in like inner cities. I mean where we're so disconnected from our our spiritual world and regardless like to what religion it is or who we believe. Now I think it's it's one of the biggest profound shifts that I had. uh

23: 00 profound shifts that I had. uh when I first found the Wimhof method was like my goodness there is something else out here in the universe now and there's like whatever it is I mean there's another energy uh and once we there's something else out there and I mean that's when I started looking at other cultural books readings and and seeing like and believing and having faith uh uh in the cosmos the universe call it God or whatever you wish now. And it's like uh there is a creator of some sort out there cuz if we even look at the human body uh by design now and it's it's too perfect. It's kind of I was actually I was at the zoo the other day there just uh and I was looking at the monkeys and uh and I was like wow and I could actually see them walking back and I was like that's the same. I says, "That's just incarceration.

24: 00 incarceration. You can see them going stir crazy. They're not meant to be there." And I'm like, "Okay." So, but again, we could learn so and there was a model or a statue and the human I actually posted it on my Instagram and and I wrote a humanity needs saving. Uh the human was on his knees kind of like praying and holding his hand up and this chimpanzee was holding his hand out and kind of and to me it's sort of representing nature's here to help humanity. And again if we talk about like what it is it's like human nature like oh that's just somebody's human nature. Those words are telling you exactly where we should be. Human nature, it adds up. And how did that happen? Like being in

25: 00 And how did that happen? Like being in the military and you were saying like being conditioned and well, first of all, how did that feel as a young lad? I don't know how long you were in the commandos for could you give us insight like what type of things did you have to do? What did that physically feel like at that time to be conditioned? Did it feel normal for you? Yeah, I mean obviously I mean you're you're sent away and I mean went down to Limston. Uh I was in the military for 5 and a half years and I spent year and a half out in Germany left came back to the UK uh and went to like elite forces went and done all arms commander course and through that's a 13week course where you are pushed mentally, physically, emotionally now just battled every day. um training and more training pushed to your limits. Then

26: 00 Then Then walking back from that and I was at the time I was uh in stren like an hour set training for like going to Northern Ireland now. So you're you're this is where you are. You're going train to go to Northern Island. You're going train to a possible war like was classified as a war zone at the time. And it's like uh so you were trained to be hypervigilant now and it's and this is the thing I mean you're not it's not so much the training at the time cuz you just take it as part of the job right this is what I'm going to do and some it's really exciting like uh I was trained as a surface missile operator and I mean firing a shoulder launch missile off your shoulder now I mean off this weapon system I mean is it's exhilarating now in the age 18 where my friends were back home in Scotland and drinking and partying was blowing stuff up and what what you could look call like a a tank. Uh you're on the ranges, you're firing rifles at all these automatic

27: 00 firing rifles at all these automatic weapons which you can see in the movies and stuff like that. So it's pretty much it can be quite exhilarating and fun, but you also get the opportunity to travel as well. So I mean my experiences in the military weren't that bad. Yeah. I mean, I I was young at the time. I got the odd punch in the jaw of a a senior uh uh rank soldier or something of that. I mean, for being too cheeky, but I mean, you took in the chin, you learn from it. Uh and I never really looked at that as anything bad. Uh and it's is again, it's you're joining the man's army. I mean it's you're not joining there the boy scouts or anything like that to be it's like you're joining to be trained to kill somebody uh to go into a war zone or something like that. So you yeah it's pretty tough going. I mean it's like you switch you on but the thing is once you leave they don't switch you off and once you go back into society you've got these problems and this is where the problems start. I mean, it's like we're

28: 00 problems start. I mean, it's like we're no longer in the same like the military society to the the civilian society. Civilian, it's two different worlds completely. The other thing I wanted to ask you like cuz in corporate I noticed that they would hire a lot of people straight out of like the veterans, straight out of the military. So they invite people like Navy Seals from the US. they would go into corporate and so they would have that mindset to achieve corporate goals but essentially then you have civilians working with people coming for the military and but it's just such an interesting environment cuz I've been in that environment too and okay it's not as extreme as the army but you're having like this hierarchical structure with a lot of min ex-military personnel um with kind of civilian people So I'm wondering like kind of your thoughts on that because there it seems to there like you said there there should be some

29: 00 like you said there there should be some holistic practice or this sort of dial where you turn turn yourself you know. Yeah. And I mean like again it's like the way we communicate now in the military it's completely different. It's like how how can we actually function in like civilian jobs and I mean because we're we each other we call each other everything under the sun. I mean it's part of the job and I mean you just take it and it's uh if you most like in a corporate world you're probably disciplined now it's like you give a massive complaint the way we HR like oh he's called me this he's called me that and it's like a lot of my friends and I mean they'll say like you've joined the snowflake generation they're like you're a snowflake you're like what just and it is it's it's tough and I mean you you physically the man mentally tough I mean everything like that. I mean, it's like you've got a goal to do is do it do the job and that's it. And

30: 00 And And that it might be hard. I mean, it's like you're so disciplined now and it's it's just integrated and it's like you don't even think about it. I mean, it's just like you get up, you do the job, and that's it. Now, it's like if running those bullets like good even training with live ammunition, they're firing rounds over your head. I mean, you're running somebody with a machine gun and it's last life trading now and it's it's one of those things. It's but it makes perfect sense. But again, once they leave the military, they they've not been like I say rehumanized. They've still got this on off switch where it's just like attack mode. Yeah. and they go back home and they might be in the club or something like they might be out socializing there the club or like game because the military teach you how to suppress your emotions just by getting pissed getting drunk uh and the guys will come back for

31: 00 uh and the guys will come back for towards the duty and normally what what I believe now the action is actually I'll keep them in camp for a while uh after a tour of duty uh so they don't just go out and like explode cuz they'll I mean it's like they'll have all this emotion inside them. Again, we're not they're not regulated to they're only regulated to experience like controlled anger. I see. So that's probably why um you'd have that like stereotype of the military guy. They're drinking a lot, right? Because of the suppressed emotion. Yeah. I mean it's like when I was young I mean it's like we grew up in it and I mean it's like right you're going to the pub even down I mean it's like it was talking like going lift a glass raise a glass to the guy that never came back same type thing it's and it is that way now I mean it

32: 00 it's and it is that way now I mean it doesn't solve nothing it's it's not going to the root cause now it's like I know friends now and it's who have got a lot of survivals get surv survival girl and they actually they don't even actually understand what the feeling that they've got. I mean it's like what is guilt? How does that emotion feel in the body? Where is it sitting in the body? And if you look at the big three fear, anger and grief and they're the ones that are like knockd flying, you all then they're all interacted and I mean it's like being hypervigilant, trained to be hypervigilant. You're being trained to be constantly aware of a threat. So you're basically then living in fear. And we know no animal almost no any animal on this planet can live in a hypervigilant state or the fight or flight mode because it's so damaging to the body.

33: 00 the body. Yeah. Cortical and adrenaline. And again this once we can get them out the system and start get them to reconnect back to the body and understand what's actually happening with them. I mean I'm I'm 51 as I said. having my own stall learning how you emotionally regulate my my whole nervous system. Wow. It's f that's so interesting cuz what I know now is turned into lots of meditations in corporate although it's not as extreme as the army you're still got IP tickets you got to like work towards this KPI like people are just like um working to these limits like not just um yeah one company but many companies are in the world I've seen many people in burnout you open mountain everybody's suffering from burnout and so it's kind of like this kind of same thing but for the civilians and so people everyone needs to learn that and I'm just wondering like how did you step

34: 00 I'm just wondering like how did you step from being in that state to opening up into like the universe or spirituality was that before Wimhof or was no it was actually was through the Wimhof meth I'd always knew there was something else there uh but how did you find Wimhof therapy I went to a psychonamic group therapy session uh was asked to go along to it in here. So it was like an an all day thing. It was like 8 n hours where we'd sit in a circle and talk about like certain things and like with a therapist. So I went to that and here was this guy talking like took us through some breath work. It was the first time I experienced breath work and I'm like so I find most people that haven't experienced breath work or haven't heard of it, they always say I know how to breathe. Well, breathing and breath work are two different things. And most people are breathing wrong anyway because they're breathing through their mouth. So, yeah. And it's

35: 00 And it's Yeah. Know, it's like that's for breathing, that's for eating. And it was during that. I mean, it was uh at the time I was studying psychology and here was me thinking I was going to along like spectate. No. I was participating. Uh it's a kind of thing I laugh back to at myself now. I was like, "Yeah, I went in there thinking I was just going to be spectating next when I was part of it and it was like I was actually participating and it just sort of unrolled this whole magical journey." Uh so yeah, and I mean there after that so we did some breath work. I didn't take much to think too much of it, but I thought like the guy that was talking about Wimhof method thought you're mental breathing in cold water. Don't talk sh I was like but again I was like that you you know where we are. We are in a group therapy

36: 00 where we are. We are in a group therapy session now and with a trained therapist and you're talking about breathing in cold water. It's got to sort of like no it's not going to happen. But unfortunately the or fortunately the seed we planted and I went away and did some research into it and looked at who was and stuff like that and I was like okay great. Uh so I started practicing and I was I didn't dive straight into it so speed. I mean I started putting looking into the breath work and and trying that but again it was like am I doing this right? Was and breathe hold your dive. What's my dive? Where's my diaphragm? I mean, it's like, where is all this? So, I'm breathing from my chest, breathing, what do you mean you breathing from your stomach? I'm like, what's all this about? So, then I was putting my hand in a bucket of cold water at the time as well just to train my ice. And I was like, it's cold and playing about with it. and went uh we're on uh Ben Ben

37: 00 it. and went uh we're on uh Ben Ben Moore or on Mull with my son. I've come down off the mountain and one hand was roasting, my right hand was warm, my left hand was like was cold and I said to my son, I feel my hands and he's like, "Well, once was cold." He's like, "What have you been doing?" He's like, "That's not normal." And I'm like, "Well, this one was the one I was been putting in my in the cold water." And it was my kind of a light bulb moment. I was like, "Okay, I've retrained the capillaries in my hand. I've retrained the cardiovascular system in my hand." Wow. For bigger for more blood flow. And I was like, "Okay, there's something behind this." Uh, unknown to me at that point, I still had no in incline of like a a spiritual path or or finding spirituality. So, I came back and I started practicing it. And it wasn't until I really got guided with the breath work properly uh did the fundamental course, the power of the mind course and started training

38: 00 the mind course and started training with the breath that I actually started having these kind of spiritual moments. Hang on. Here was me. I mean, I just came from the rave scene and taking recreational drugs and having these kind of sub like these changes in consciousness through through drugs. Here was me having them through breath work. And I'm like, what the hell? I there's there's something in this. And obviously the more I researched I was starting to pick up other literature and listen to other books and you start to learn more and you start to once you start learning stuff uh and getting other information you start to see this bigger picture unfold and I was like okay where is this taking me now and it's and I was like okay this is interesting. So the more I practiced, the more I started to feel stuff. And obviously

39: 00 started to feel stuff. And obviously I've had some, let's call them, visions through breath work. I've had many, many emotional releases. Uh, one this morning, in fact, just popped right out of the middle of nowhere. Uh, but again, it was it started put me in questioning life as a whole. Like, well, there has to be something more than just skin and bones, you know? there. It's so I I started looking into other books and stuff like from other cultures and I uh just for instance I mean it's like I've got books here from like not really nothing but um Chris Morty this is a I've not even I've not read it but I've been given it from the the monks out in Le Mago. Uh, and again, it's

40: 00 Uh, and again, it's I found it really interesting how different cultures have obviously their own gods and things like that. But again, at the end of the day, the same it's the same message that keeps on coming back and it's to be heart centered. You know what I mean? leak from the heart and it's so I'm like right so there has to be something in it now and it's so the more you and one thing I found with breath work it really does connect you to your heart and once I started practicing the method and it's when people ask me what is the Wimhof method and the Wimhof method is uh uh intentional breath work in cold water but What it's designed to do is to reconnect the mind and heart back together. Mind heart coherence. And it it's and once we've got those cuz society has got us living in here our

41: 00 society has got us living in here our head so separated from the body and once we reconnect them something happens something magical happens and we just start to feel experience things see the world completely different. So that that was the kind of thing that has has happened uh for me to find my spirituality and I mean where where is it going at the moment? Who knows now? And it's cuz I listen to so many books as uh I usually like when I'm working now I'll have like a like an audio book on the background. Uh and the one I was listening to was the game of life and how you play it. It was written in 1925. Uh, and it talks about like the Bible and things like that, but instead of the Lord, how they translated the word Lord to the law, the law of the universe. Oh, the law of creator. And I'm like, wow.

42: 00 wow. Game changer. Yeah. You're like, okay. So again, it made me look at the like even the Bible. I mean, completely different. So again, if you start if you use that kind of concept, I mean, you're taking the religious out of it, but you're still maintaining the spirituality in it. Uh, and it allows and again, it savors that divide cuz I was brought up in a a mixed religious house. I mean, my dad was Protestant, my grandparents were Catholic. Now, and then I took nothing to do with that. I hate I despise religion. More more wars, more people have been killed through religion than anything else. But again, if we can spirituality, that's a different book completely and it's it's one I'm glad I found. It's and it's something that I never had my whole life. And here was me like seven years ago. I started to find it. I started to believe there is something and something greater than than us human

43: 00 and something greater than than us human beings. There is a lot of power out there guiding us. Yeah. It's amazing how you transition to the the from all the way from like you saying your youth to this context is just unfolding. It's so beautiful to hear this journey. Um, and I'm just wondering like what took you after you came out the military, what took you into this wanting to go to therapy or wanting to seek these things? Was it because it's quite easy just to go to the pub or to go through other things. But what what made you essentially try to seek in psychology or seek for answers? Well, at the time it was uh since leaving the military, I mean, I left the the army through a more big crash, put left me in a wheelchair for, you know, this part of

44: 00 a wheelchair for, you know, this part of two years. Had to learn how to walk again. Um was on life support for 4 and 1 / 2 weeks. I was back in 1995. But then there was two years of recovery. I then just started getting back into a normal job and work but eventually found myself working in social care with adults uh with autism and then worked in that environment for 8 years. So in that environment I was learning social care practices. Um you're delving into psychology again you look into mental health mental well-being uh not for ourselves but for other people as a caregiver. So again that's kind of path that got me on to the the psychology route. So I was like okay eventually I was like right I'll just go and do my degree like educated HNC H & DS and social care. I thought right do you know what I'll go and do this I'll go and get my degree in

45: 00 and do this I'll go and get my degree in psychology and counseling and it was about it was like year two of my degree. was like that's when I went to this therapy session but at the same time I was just working away uh again self-medicating coming home from work super stressed drinking beer have a glass of wine wake up in the morning have coffee and once we start looking these actually do to the central nervous system it's insane I mean like one cup of coffee stays in your central in your system for 12 hours. And what what does caffeine do? It stimulates your adrenal glands. When does your adrenal glands produce adrenaline? So you're in this again, your your central nervous system is in fight or flight mode. So I was coming back home, drinking come the weekend, hitting the recreational drugs again. And it was I had no way of

46: 00 drugs again. And it was I had no way of understanding how to deal with all these emotions that I was feeling. I was super stressed and as you say we're going into burnout and I was like what's happening? So I had no way to actually understand what was happening. My body had all these feelings and things like again trying to push and then I found the method and this started to change things massively. I mean, I could start to regulate my feelings. Uh, and once you start doing that, you can start drinking less, start making these changes. Stop drinking co coffee and things like that. Uh, so I made these changes in my life over the last seven years. Now I don't drink alcohol at all. Uh I I still have coffee now and again, but I have to be very careful uh in what how

47: 00 I have to be very careful uh in what how much I consume cuz it it just it can instantly like if I have like a like if you think a double espresso, I could not drink that. the the effect that has on my central nervous system, it just sends me absolutely scatty and it's like I've get no control over my thoughts, my feelings. It just uh and it's like the joke says drink coffee and do do stupid stuff fast. It literally is like that. I mean, it's it's such a powerful stimulant and we forget that. is so readily available and it's it's like socially acceptable to drink this super powerful stimulant every time being in that same state that same flower state. Yeah. I mean stay I was drinking al at one point I was drinking like 10 cups of coffee a day where so if it takes 12 hours for one cup to come out of my system

48: 00 cup to come out of my system the math is not that hard to do. I mean it's like my body was in total stressed out mode. Uh and once I started say practicing the method and started self-regulating it was it made big changes. And you also mentioned like the relationship with like children or perhaps your son and so having this unregulated nervous system. You're mentioning push and just in case there's any fathers or parents out there, does that then mean you're putting extra pressure on the child or you're going to be dealing with them in a certain pressured way as opposed to nowadays? Yeah. Know I mean I think yeah you are. You definitely are. I mean, if you if you're highly strong and stressed out, I mean, that environment has got where it is you project on in your child cuz again, you your kid looks at you and sees you running about super stressed

49: 00 sees you running about super stressed and that environment is then a stressful environment for the kid to be in. And so again, the kids then learning to be hypervigilant of you. I mean, because you might be super stressed and snappy and angry or crabby because your work's not going great or whatever. Something's h somebody's cut you up. You come home and you're shouting and or you're having an argument in front of your with your your partner or something like that. That will definitely have an effect on your kid's central nervous system. And And again, they're going to be walking on eggshells. And unfortunately for me now and it's uh my my marriage failed because of what how I was unable to regulate my nervous system now and it's like I was just regulated at the time with alcohol and obviously it just broke the the relationship broke down but luckily enough we when we were breaking up and

50: 00 enough we when we were breaking up and stuff like that we agreed on never to argue in front of our son which we did. Uh my son's light years ahead of me now and I mean he's like so centered, so balanced, practiced the method. Uh has his own routine and stuff like cold showers and then you're like and I love seeing it. I mean, I love seeing how balanced he is even though he he's came from a like a split family where but me me and his mother actually have like still gave him the same focus and the same attention that he desired like he needed as a kid and he's come out he's turned out he's well balanced now and so it teaches me a lot of things. That's fantastic to hear. Thank you for sharing that cuz I think it would help a lot of parents from different different backgrounds to resonate with that story and for people who are they might be in a

51: 00 people who are they might be in a disregulated state whether it be coffee whether it be coming from that environment whether it be work or phone addiction how does if we can get into like the Wimhof method and cold showers because that's banded about a lot I started I actually heard of Wimhof through a podcast called Dr. Rangan Chart's podcast, Feel Better, Live More. When I was building my mental and I actually did one of his um live streams and for me that initially released a lot of anxiety because I had a lot of social anxiety um through being pressured in like exam systems etc. and that helped during co times. So I'm wondering from a more exp expert point of view some practice this what really is this breath work method and what does cold showers do for us right when we're first of all we practice there's three pillars

52: 00 practice there's three pillars okay you the base pillar of the three hexagons that's your mindset mindset and personal commitment that is you're not You're maintaining commitments to yourself, not the Wimhof method and not to the breath work and not to the cold showers or any lather or cold. You're you're making that decision. I am going to make changes in my life for the better. So, you're then taking back your sovereignty, your ownership and saying like, okay, this is for me. I'm doing these things for me. These are tools I'm going to learn which are going to make me feel better. So, that's my mindset. uh going on the second pillar. The second pillar is the breath work. Breath work is 40 30 to 40 intentional breath from the diaphragm. Uh after that you'll go after your 30 or 40th breath you'll you'll go into our attention that's an you'll hold your breath on an exhale cuz most people hold their breath

53: 00 exhale cuz most people hold their breath on an inhale cuz if you ask somebody hold their breath and go but if you what I do through a workshop I'd ask you to hold your breath on an exhale so I'd be like fully in fully out stop breathing so you're emptying your lungs. Uh after that after about a minute and a half maybe two minutes you'll feel the urge to breathe. At that point you're your body's actually producing adrenaline and cortisol and not epinephrine and it's there to like make you breathe and at that point uh if you feel the gas the urge to breathe. So you'll take a breath in then we'll ask you to squeeze from the paranium uh pushing the blood up your spine to your head. So you'll do that four times. Then after that we'll have a bit of time just to relax and chill out. Uh maybe share talk

54: 00 share talk and then maybe about 15 20 minutes later once everybody's calm and relaxed uh we'll get ready for the ice and then at that point we'll go in for a nice bath. But again practicing at home we never do the breath work anywhere near water. always in a safe place. So again, it's like your alarm clock goes off in the morning. Best thing you can do is just put a set of headphones on, do your breath work there and then or get up and lie on the floor. Do breath work somewhere safe, a safe environment. Nowhere, not in showers, not in rivers, not in locks, not in legs. Uh especially not when you're driving. So it's always in a safe environment. And at that point onwards after that uh once you're done your breath work you're nice and calm and relaxed. Uh but also with the breath work we're producing dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin and endorphins which are all happy hormones. So then we go into the water and we're using the water as the way I look at it

55: 00 using the water as the way I look at it is we're using the water uh as used well it is used stress. It's a positive stressor not a negative stressor. But I also I mean a way I like to look at it is where you got to use it as a like a tub boost. Our body's filled with all these happy hormones. We're going to go into this stressful environment uh consciously sit down in the ice or get into the cold shower, experience the stress, which is going to increase our heart rate, but it's also increasing the blood flow around the body. So if you think about it, you've got all these happy hormones in your body and next minute you go into this cold shower or cold water. You're you're switching on the fight or flight mode. You're then the body's getting then flooded with all these happy hormones are getting pushed around the body like a million miles an hour. So you go in the water for maybe it doesn't have to be like 20 minutes or there's no need. I mean the magic happens after 2 minutes.

56: 00 happens after 2 minutes. 90 seconds to two minutes depending on your physiology and that's when the heart magic happens. Any longer than that is just fun. You're not really getting any more benefits from it. So we're going for two two to three minutes at the the max thing come out. Then then we'll look at warming up and letting the body heat up naturally using the horse stance. And so like then so the 90 minutes seconds to 2 minutes depending on your physiology. So I guess if you're a bit more in the skinny side it would be less uh time and then I would take time to put my body into that state right because I started doing cold showers and I don't know if it's right or wrong but I put on my body but then I put on my head like should it go directly on the crown and breathing at the same time with with a breath. I mean, it's it's just controlled breathing. It's just nasal breathing with long exhales. And that's that's all it is. And I mean, that's all we're doing. What we're

57: 00 that's all we're doing. What we're trying to steady like when you're getting cold, you're got to get the gas reflex. You got to be like hyperventilating, like try to catch your breath because it is so cold. But again, if we can just control our breath, we can control the stress. So, it's long exhale in and a long exhale out. Then once we've caught our breath and we've relaxed in the water, that's fine. Uh we have to watch what we're doing when because you can go into the malmanian d reflex which we try and we don't want. So again with people that come in workshops I don't advise them not to put their head under the water then experience a thing called shallow water blackout. Uh which we don't want because if you pass out underwater you you need waking up and so we try and keep away from that. So keep your head above a bar. If you get up around your ears, uh it's obviously got to stimulate the nav the vagus nerve. Uh but again, when we're in cold showers, again, when we're

58: 00 we're in cold showers, again, when we're if you're rubbing your body and rubbing your face, uh what we're doing, we're actually stimulating the the lymphatic system as well. So, and that's obviously a key benefit to keep the lymph fluid moving around around the body, right? And I also know from Dr. Susanna Sobberg from Denmark that there's also brown fat around the spinal system and and now we're modern day and uh because of the demo and things that brown fat is becoming less. So we're basically unable to and we're wearing warm clothes all the time. So we're basically unable to have that regulation inside our body. And I come from an immigrant family so I suffer for like Reynolds, right? because like maybe our uh generations haven't been adapted to Scotland very well. So like that's al also probably something I should probably do as well is like I think you do lock you're doing locks as well right locks rubbers again even like you've got rains and I mean you can put your hands

59: 00 rains and I mean you can put your hands in cold water just a bucket of cold water put your hands in it in for a minute out for a minute because what you're doing you're exercising your capillaries you're exercising every cell in the body cuz when you go to the gym we go and lift weights and we're giving it extensions contract expand, contract, expansion, contraction. We can do that with every cell in the body. And if you're doing it with your compeller using veins, trading with the code, which you're doing, you're going to increase the size of uh the veins, the capillaries, the arteries, which increases blood flow. I mean, when we think of our cardiovascular system as a central heat system of the human body, if we've got big strong pipelines going through our body, we're going to have really warm blood flow throughout the body. So, it's the way I kind of like explain it to some people now because some

1: 00 it to some people now because some people say, "Cool feet." I'm like, "Well, train, put your feet in cold water." And they're like, "What? Your feet are soon heat up. No, you put them in the cold and start training with them. You again, you're training the capillaries in your feet and you they do the next minute they're like went home or they come to workshop and we just put your hands and feet in ice. They go home and they're like, "Darn, my feet are roasting and it's like 12: 00 at night. I can't get to sleep cuz my feet are too warm." This morning you were complaining your feet were cold. They're hard. Well, again, it's just it's it's once we train our feet now. And it's like these elements that it just makes your life so much easier and better. You're talking about adipos tissue and brain fat activation. I mean again it's really important for us to to deal with this and it doesn't have to be ice b. I can be wearing a less of a jumper and I mean we take a wear a lighter jacket in a cold day cuz our body is then doing what it's doing meant to do. Thermore regulation, thermogenesis burn body fat

1: 01 thermogenesis burn body fat is is designed to use the food we eat to generate heat as energy. And if we can do that now, and it's it's just it's amazing what this human body can do. It's like we cut our hand, put plaster on it, couple of days later, we take the plaster off and it's healed. So if we put the body in the right environment with the right support, it'll heal properly. And like folk like Joe the Spenza and stuff like that, they they've seen it in the extreme sense where people are are healing their bodies from cancer and things like that through these holistic practice things like I mean it's through mindset but again it's it's changing the way we think. We have to change the way we think in society these days now. And it's like this body as a self-healing organism. It if we put it in the right right environment and water it preferably with cold water,

1: 02 preferably with cold water, it will heal every day now. And it's slowly and surely it will heal. So again, taking this back to it's like we are just nature. So we're human nature. We're no different from a plant in the garden. That's true. And we've forgotten how to use this because of the systems and environment we're in. And what you were sharing there about the breath and holding it like the technique of holding the per pneum and when I was looking into Wimhof it was based on like some shamanic breathing also yogic breathing. So they would go through the differenti centers of the body and take this energy upwards. Um, so it's it's very interesting how Wimhof's method is very close to these. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's like you're booked into like an hour talking about G energy and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, Prana is all there now. I've got I was given these books uh

1: 03 now. I've got I was given these books uh like the really old books on like yoga really old books. Oh, now this which I've not again I've not read but again it's just to even be given like this little manual now it's beautiful. Um what what secrets are held in there and I'm looking forward to reading them now once I get to the chance. Another book I'm reading is uh The Alchemist with Touchi Ch. Oh yeah. Amazing brain goes into the body in so many ways not body movements again using the breath very similar to Ayurveda and what we use in our tradition is also music. So I know you you talked about sound vibration. So we have like gin rags so mantras to help move these emotions and

1: 04 mantras to help move these emotions and I'm wondering if you could also share your journey of yoga and sound tapering. When did you start getting into that? I got into movement maybe about uh it's when I went out and done started experiencing movement first when I was out doing my my level one instructorship with the path method because movement is much part of that as well. Hence why I don't have like any seats in the house. We were talking earlier about about moving. She always keeps you moving uh changing your your body position and the more we move the the more flexible we'll become. And from there I've got a basic practice in yoga and I mean it's it's just more mainly for flexibility and stuff like that. uh was to stop you seizing up. But with sound uh uh once you started looking at the signs and things like that of that was actually happening in the human body and

1: 05 actually happening in the human body and you see I mean you understand like each cell in the body vibrates at a certain frequency now and an electrical frequency and it's like you you start seeing the effects or or getting into sound baths you start feeling the benefits of sound. uh which again led me on a becoming a sound practitioner learning how to play the gong from a gong practitioner I hold sound bass as well now so again it's and feeling the power of sound now and it's again it takes you into the world of spirituality and it's like we forget how powerful like you were saying there about mantras and things like that uh and we we hear weird and how like monal like you use the word or or again what are they doing? I mean they're resonating with sound. Why? Because these are healing frequencies

1: 06 and we're we're they're bringing their body back in like homeostasis or raising their consciousness by them in a subtle level cuz like the conversations getting a little bit more subtler will cuz it's still on the body but it's just like you said on the cellular level. So I've been to a sound bath once. So, I think I opened an event bar the other day and you just see tons of sand baths in Glasgow in Scotland coming up. So, I'm wondering like what does go what does a gong what does being a gong practitioner do? So, what what does that kind of do and what does that give for the body and for the practice? Again, I mean with the gong I mean it's uh it's most people think of a gong as they'll just go and strike it like no. Yeah. Well, that's what I thought until I start sad day by by a beautiful woman called Paul Spears. I mean, it's

1: 07 I mean, it's probably one of the best gong teachers uh in in the UK if not Europe, if not further a field. She's playing the gong for go I can't remember how long she's been playing for but again to hear what a gong can do the gong is I took the gong out to Italy last year uh with 11 other 10 other women method instructors and I gave them a sound bath just with the gong and the look that came off their face after it after 40 minutes of being subjected to this sound was I thought they' just done like 10 rounds of power breathing cuz they were just sat there like you can physically see them pulling themsel back into like what we call like reality and like a conscious stakes. They went that deep and that relaxed. And it's something I've always said. I mean it's like if people fall asleep during like a breath work session or a sound bath mission accomplished

1: 08 sound bath mission accomplished cuz you've regulated it to that point. They've been able to relax that much they switched off and fell asleep. Like what are they? They're at rest and that's what we want. I mean we want people to feel rest again going back to the stage like parasympathetic nervous system rest and digest. So we're resting. We're we're at ease. Uh so yeah, it's really really interesting uh where it's at the moment I'm thinking about with the breath and sound which is it's quite fun. Uh but yeah I mean I I wouldn't say I'm I'm a master with sound or anything like that or a master at breast work. I mean, but what I've learned is a lot uh to guide people through using sound safely uh and experiencing sound safely.

1: 09 safely uh and experiencing sound safely. It's again it's there's there's the science behind sound is changing so much and I mean it's gone back to they're talking about how even now the Egyptians may have used sound to move rock and there's there's so much out there. It goes back to sacred geometry as well. So now there's these frequencies are are resonating through our body at all times. And again it also takes you back to disease cuz you're not resonating that your natural state your natural frequency. Yeah. Again it's when we look at like I've got bowls there and I went and found out the frequencies and obviously these these seven bowls are all in tune with your chakras. So obviously each chakra has got each chakra's got a frequency. Each organ's got a different frequency and sound

1: 10 and sound as well. I mean it's it can change now. It's like whilst we're talking and say we started speaking at the same time there's two frequencies then becoming three with the words we speak. And within your singing power of singing, people can sh crystal glasses with a voice. So again, it then takes you into seeing like how powerful our words are and how can they affect people like spelling. And if you really think about it, what are you doing? You're casting spells, you're casting words. So it's it's interesting the the things that I've I've learned and I think about it some days I it's sound is a beautiful thing. I mean I play for myself as much

1: 11 thing. I mean I play for myself as much as I do play for other people cuz when I am playing it I'm in the middle of it and whatever I'm feeling can be projected out through the gong and the bowls as well and other sound tools I've got. So I have to be wary of like what how I feel prior to getting a sound bath. I give one most times I if I'm not feel if I feel anything un towards it like if I don't feel that great I'll do breath work for it it just again to bring myself back in in the present moment and feel centered then I can obviously work and give a good performance. Amazing. It reminds me of um so this is called nad yoga. So nad is like the sound of vibration and we talking about this in the previous episode as well. It's like using that certain mantra chant like you

1: 12 using that certain mantra chant like you were saying that invokes certain emotion um with that nad yoga it's called kin. So you'd combine the mantras with the um the sound and the singing and the instrument movements to cause in the person and also in the event the changes in the people. So their heart can resonate at these different frequencies. So the the tradition I come from is like a technology of different raers. So ra is like a mu musical melody. Yeah. So you have the musical melody and you also have the words written by enlightened beings. So that's kind of like how how our tradition connects to sound and vibration and healing and things like that. And I just find how the science and spirituality match up so beautiful the way you explained as well.

1: 13 beautiful the way you explained as well. Yeah. as it's there there's a definite shift and we're speaking some saying there's a definite shift in consciousness now at the moment not just here in Scotland or UK across Europe and right across the whole world now and you can actually physically feel this shift happening and which is is pushing uh humanity in the right direction. So we just have to keep sharing the word and keep going and see what happens. And you were in Europe you were mentioning as well like I don't know if you want to share anything about how you felt that um journey was or like yeah how you felt was connecting to different cultures and people in the journey as well. The funny thing is is that the the heart centerness that connected us all

1: 14 centerness that connected us all from I've been traveling from like here in Scotland all the way out to Holland from Holland down in through Germany uh went down to the Sherland temple uh in the south of Germany from there through Austria right up through and he brought Slava in Slovakia. Uh, every person that I've met, they all and this is the thing now. It's like people are like, "Wasn't it scary?" I'm like, "No, it wasn't." I mean, I didn't meet anybody that was aggressive or angry or like dangerous or anything like that. They're all just nice people. And and this is the thing now. And so again, it goes back to one one of the things I was taught by a woman by an Austrian woman called Christina. She told me, D, she's like, "Darn, you you don't have to feel 100% safe. All you have to do is feel safe enough."

1: 15 you have to do is feel safe enough." And it was quite a profound teaching she gave me with that. Uh, and it's something that stays with me. I mean, again, it's because we do we live in a society where we're all scared and we're all looking over our shoulder. I mean where we shouldn't be I mean this it goes back to keep us in disregulated and the more we can embrace each other and come from a heart-c centered area and I mean we're going to change people's perceptions or and living in fear I mean from and again that again will change uh the effects of how children the the younger generation are now growing up again they'll be able to embrace each other regardless of their culture their religion and I create the color. I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, it's it's where it's coming from. And if it come from if we're heart centered and heart led, uh it's is going to make a massive difference. Absolutely. I think just being heartled is is that shift like you were talking

1: 16 is is that shift like you were talking about at the start, the brain and the heart. And I was just also wondering if you have any insight into maybe why the social structures are this way. um how people can begin to recognize that they're in this structure that's keeping them in fear or maybe why this might be the case. I know it's the power to be that we're I think they want us to be in fear cuz if we're not living in fear and I mean if we are living up here we're not reaching our our full potential. Again we're as human beings we we've got so much potential out there to give. uh if you're scared and scared to go out the house or scared to embrace something new like somebody else's culture or go and experience and sit and listen to other people's wisdom h you become narrow-minded and obviously one of the books I was reading was

1: 17 one of the books I was reading was talking about how this actually hardens the heart and so now and if you're you're which again leads to a hard heart I mean it's like you don't want to have a hard heart. I mean, you have want to have an open one and and see the divine human in somebody else now. And it's like, what are what is that person? I mean, that person is another conscious being now. And it's and again, it's going down to their education. They've just been taught the wrong stuff. Uh if we can teach them the right stuff, the change in society is going to be massive. Wow, that's powerful. It goes back to the education how we're taught, how our consciousness is being suppressed now. And you could go down rabbit holes looking at like why is there fluoride in the water? Why is there fluoride? We're told to brush our teeth for fluoride and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's like people like it's

1: 18 Yeah. And it's like people like it's conspiracy theories. But is it fluoride is not naturally produced by the body. So why are we putting that in the body? We know boiling water kills any bacteria in water. So there's no need for fluoride to be in your water. So again, we So what is that fluoride that is in the water or isn't the toothpaste h doing to the body? Like even the chemicals, I mean deodorants and things like that. You're spraying chemicals on your body. The skin is the biggest organ. It's it's absorbent. We absorb things through our skin. It's going into your bloodstream. It's going into your it'll go into your brain, your bloodb brain barrier. Now it'll get into every organ. So again, we can look at these things like why are we what what are the the effects of this happening? I mean, if you there's you

1: 19 happening? I mean, if you there's you see like when people went into like these indigenous cultures, they had no connection with the west at all. And soon as the western people started getting out in these areas and they started getting becoming ill. Oh, hang on. You're living in the jungle. And they're like, "Oh, we got this." Like, we're not. The westerners brought the disease with them. Now, because they were live, these other people, these are indigenous, cultures were living in balance with the planet, eating good food, natural food, stuff from the ground. It's we have to go back to this traditional way of living, I believe, now. And it's like, is it possible? I don't know. We had a lot of conversations before about like how Britain also got um kind of or even like where does the word western come from? How Britain with the Romans

1: 20 come from? How Britain with the Romans like how people were living uh in balance before in UK. Yeah. And the tribes. And then we also progress in the dialogue to the Freemasons and the Masons as well. and also understanding how um what the power of water so when you control the water supply you're also controlling the frequency or the power of these structures as well. So we're these dialogues we're slowly be beginning to build a picture about how we can take back sovereignity of our health but also maybe the political landscape and what's going on now. there's some wars going on and everyone's addicted to their phones. It's kind of spiritual warfare in a way. So, we're kind of like building this this picture about the solution, but also the problem. And we're still a bit murky on the problem and why this Yeah. I mean, a lot of people think it's they're just conspiracy theories.

1: 21 they're just conspiracy theories. But why do they keep on these conspiracy theories keep coming true now? They're they're actually proven now. I mean, they're like, "Okay, these things are happening." Uh, and the effects of these like chemicals that are in like the food chain and stuff like that are having an effect on our mental well-being on on the human body. So, now there has to be there is that correlation there. I mean, there evidence is there. So, if we go back to trying to like reverse this Mhm. I we hopefully maybe be able to like educate the the next generation to learn more in balance with with the planet and and with each other more most importantly. Yeah, definitely one one step at a time. Um thank you so much D. I think that is

1: 22 thank you so much D. I think that is that's a be beautiful dialogue. I'm just wondering as we begin to wrap up um is there anything you'd like to share like um events that you do people can reach out to you even the book as well where they can check more about that. Yeah, I mean it's uh you'll get me on the socials and Instagram like Facebook just D Adam and it's uh also Instagram t nice through there you'll get my links to the official Wimhof website and obviously you'll see anything that I'm doing on like workshops and things like that through my Instagram and on Facebook. Cheers. Thank you for the work you do. Honestly, it's it was such a pleasure to hear your story and to to be part of sharing that. So, thank you Darren. Thank you. Thanks you. It's pleasure. Cheers. Thanks everyone for watching. God bless. Oh yeah.

1: 23 Yeah, it's powerful. too. Uh, that's awesome.

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