Heat Becomes A Protocol

Sauna benefits for skin come from precise infrared heat, deeper sweat, and a ritual that supports circulation, recovery, and visible vitality.

A grounded look at Connie Zack’s case for infrared sauna as a daily wellness protocol, from deep sweating and recovery to full spectrum sauna design and the questions buyers should ask.

From Sauna To Wellness Ritual

Wellness begins with agency. In Connie Zack’s telling, Sunlighten is not simply a sauna maker, but a global wellness company built around the idea that people deserve practical ways to participate in their own health.

That distinction matters. A sauna can be furniture, heat, and a closed cabin, or it can become a deliberate protocol. Sunlighten positions infrared as the latter, a repeatable ritual designed to support vitality, longevity, and a more intentional relationship with the body.

Zack describes the company as having distribution around the world and a focus on helping people live healthier lives. The language is direct: control, health, use, life. The product becomes a tool, but the responsibility stays with the person who enters the cabin.

Her own path into the company adds weight to that philosophy. Zack and her husband, Aaron, left careers at Procter & Gamble, where they worked in the pharmaceutical department, to join the business that her brother had started in 1999.

The origin story is personal rather than corporate. Her brother was ill, and he found far infrared technology while searching for a way to support his own healing. The company grew from that point of need, which gives the brand story a human center.

By 2002, Zack and her husband had stepped in to help lead the company. She identifies her role as chief sales officer, while Aaron serves as chief executive officer. The leadership structure reflects a family business, but the ambition she describes is wider than family.

The early public visibility came through a moment that mattered in wellness culture. Zack says The Dr. Oz Show team, for a segment connected to the Oprah Winfrey Show, researched companies and chose Sunlighten to showcase around vitality and longevity.

At the time, the company’s primary focus was far infrared sauna. Zack frames that appearance as validation, not because visibility alone creates value, but because it placed infrared sauna inside a larger conversation about living longer and living better.

The evolution since then is central to her case. Far infrared was once the available category; later, Sunlighten expanded into full spectrum infrared, adding mid and near wavelengths to the cabin. The promise shifted from heat alone to precision.

What remains consistent is the ritual. You enter, you stay, you sweat, and you give the body time to respond. In a world that often separates wellness into products and appointments, the sauna becomes a sanctuary for deliberate recovery.

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you're watching the wellness hour leader in medical newss and information I'm in medical newss and information I'm Randy Alvarez today's topic the health Randy Alvarez today's topic the health benefits of infrared saas with us we benefits of infrared saas with us we have the co-founder of sunlighten sonas have the co-founder of sunlighten sonas they are the brand leader uh in infrared they are the brand leader uh in infrared SAA technology with us we have Connie SAA technology with us we have Connie Zack Connie welcome to the program thank Zack Connie welcome to the program thank you Randy it's good to be here now you Randy it's good to be here now before we get into today's topic for before we get into today's topic for people that don't know about sunlight people that don't know about sunlight and I said you guys are the brand leader and I said you guys are the brand leader but I guess you are the largest yes uh but I guess you are the largest yes uh tell me a little bit about sunlighten tell me a little bit about sunlighten for people that don't know sunlighten for people that don't know sunlighten we're a wellness company we're a global we're a wellness company we're a global wellness company we have distribution wellness company we have distribution all over the world and we are dedicated all over the world and we are dedicated to making people's lives healthier we to making people's lives healthier we want them to be in control and to use want them to be in control and to use our products to live a healthier life so our products to live a healthier life so you specialize in just sonas infrared you specialize in just sonas infrared sonas we have a lot of different sonas we have a lot of different products but our main core is in far products but our main core is in far infrared and full spectrum infrared infrared and full spectrum infrared sonas yes and you uh have distributors sonas yes and you uh have distributors in 18 countries yes and uh I guess in 18 countries yes and uh I guess you've had big endorsements lately did you've had big endorsements lately did that make a have a major impact on your

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that make a have a major impact on your company like when Dr Oz says you know or company like when Dr Oz says you know or show yeah Dr Oz they The Dr Oz for the show yeah Dr Oz they The Dr Oz for the Oprah Winfrey Show researched different Oprah Winfrey Show researched different companies and they chose sunlighten to companies and they chose sunlighten to be the company that they would showcase be the company that they would showcase on the Oprah Winfrey Show on a a segment on the Oprah Winfrey Show on a a segment that Dr Oz did on vitality and Longevity that Dr Oz did on vitality and Longevity okay and making your life healthier and okay and making your life healthier and live while you're going to extend your live while you're going to extend your life you're going to have a healthier life you're going to have a healthier life and enjoy it better and one of the life and enjoy it better and one of the ways to do that is through a sunlight ways to do that is through a sunlight lighten far infrared sauna and that lighten far infrared sauna and that really really validated that was four years Oprah is validated that was four years Oprah is going to opr is going to put one in her going to opr is going to put one in her home in her why she's going to put full home in her why she's going to put full spectrum so things have changed over the spectrum so things have changed over the past four years at the time we were on past four years at the time we were on the OPA Winfrey show all that was the OPA Winfrey show all that was available was far in Fred onas and now available was far in Fred onas and now we've had the ability to expand that we've had the ability to expand that technology and provide many more health technology and provide many more health benefits through a different technology benefits through a different technology called Full Spectrum okay now I called Full Spectrum okay now I mentioned you know with your company you mentioned you know with your company you are the co-founder MH I guess you took

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are the co-founder MH I guess you took over your brother was the founder my over your brother was the founder my brother started right my brother started brother started right my brother started the business in 1999 because he was the business in 1999 because he was really sick and he found a way to heal really sick and he found a way to heal himself through far infared technology himself through far infared technology and then my husband and I Aaron Zach we and then my husband and I Aaron Zach we left proctoring Gamble and we had a left proctoring Gamble and we had a really good career there in the really good career there in the pharmaceutical department and left to pharmaceutical department and left to join my brother and to take it over so join my brother and to take it over so she took it over when we took over in she took it over when we took over in 2002 2002 so your official title is what 2002 2002 so your official title is what cheap sales officer and and what about cheap sales officer and and what about your husband he's the CEO he's the CEO your husband he's the CEO he's the CEO okay we're also going to have him on the okay we're also going to have him on the on the show as well who knows more about on the show as well who knows more about infrared he does or you do both do equal infrared he does or you do both do equal okay good so who is the typical customer okay good so who is the typical customer that gets an infrared Sonic we have many that gets an infrared Sonic we have many different types of customers there isn't different types of customers there isn't a stereotype okay we have customers who a stereotype okay we have customers who want to take control of their health and want to take control of their health and wellness people who shop at Whole Foods wellness people who shop at Whole Foods who like organic foods who want to make who like organic foods who want to make sure they know all the ingredients and

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sure they know all the ingredients and everything that they're eating that is everything that they're eating that is one type of customer they want to they one type of customer they want to they want to make sure and prevent anything want to make sure and prevent anything that's going to happen to them and they that's going to happen to them and they use our product to do that we have use our product to do that we have people who are really chronically ill people who are really chronically ill and they've tried everything on the and they've tried everything on the planet to heal themselves many different planet to heal themselves many different Physicians Etc and maybe a physician has Physicians Etc and maybe a physician has recommended or a co-worker or colleague recommended or a co-worker or colleague has said you know what why don't you try has said you know what why don't you try far in for a therapy and sunlighten is a far in for a therapy and sunlighten is a leader in that call them so that's leader in that call them so that's another the different type of customer another the different type of customer we have Physicians uh that recommend our we have Physicians uh that recommend our products and own them and they use them products and own them and they use them we have Wellness clinics we have many we have Wellness clinics we have many different types of businesses we have different types of businesses we have rehab rehabilitation centers that use it rehab rehabilitation centers that use it to help to sweat out the toxic elements to help to sweat out the toxic elements they use it as well and one of the they use it as well and one of the people on my show Mark Heyman yes I people on my show Mark Heyman yes I think he has at least five New York think he has at least five New York Times best-selling books yes uh he wrote Times best-selling books yes uh he wrote books on diabetes and heart health on books on diabetes and heart health on longevity yes ultr metabolism I mind

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longevity yes ultr metabolism I mind yeah he mentions your yes SAA sunlight yeah he mentions your yes SAA sunlight and SAA specifically in every one of and SAA specifically in every one of thing to do all the time are you friends thing to do all the time are you friends with Dr Heyman we adore Dr Heyman we with Dr Heyman we adore Dr Heyman we think the world of him and we support think the world of him and we support him and anything we can do to help him him and anything we can do to help him Dr Hyman and his patients we are there Dr Hyman and his patients we are there cuz one of the biggest name Dr Cole in cuz one of the biggest name Dr Cole in San Diego here she is a big fan of San Diego here she is a big fan of infrared saas you know you know since we infrared saas you know you know since we talked on the telephone you know I talked on the telephone you know I interview a lot of medical doctors we interview a lot of medical doctors we air all all over the us all over Canada air all all over the us all over Canada and everybody swears by INF foret and and everybody swears by INF foret and the people I talk to coincidentally have the people I talk to coincidentally have sunlighten yeah and uh so I was excited sunlighten yeah and uh so I was excited to have you on the show today by the way to have you on the show today by the way and I'm not trying to endorse you even and I'm not trying to endorse you even though I have they have our product and though I have they have our product and as well they they should they should as well they they should they should have it it's a great product to make you have it it's a great product to make you healthier okay so I interrupted but you healthier okay so I interrupted but you have okay so you have the medical have okay so you have the medical doctors using it the health crowd the doctors using it the health crowd the detox crowd the people that are sick detox crowd the people that are sick correct correct a lot of people are I correct correct a lot of people are I mean really this is like their last mean really this is like their last Stitch effort they have tried culation

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Stitch effort they have tried culation they have tried different types of they have tried different types of supplements they have tried everything supplements they have tried everything and they cannot find a cure and we are and they cannot find a cure and we are able to help them and it's YouTube by able to help them and it's YouTube by the way on YouTube yes you have the way on YouTube yes you have customers that swear by this some of customers that swear by this some of them make claims that are just hard to them make claims that are just hard to believe but you have people that think believe but you have people that think that they're healthy because of your that they're healthy because of your sonist yes and weight loss stories yes sonist yes and weight loss stories yes so weight loss is another customer so weight loss is another customer weight loss is that somebody who's weight loss is that somebody who's overweight somebody who has chronic pain overweight somebody who has chronic pain we have lots of customers I can think of we have lots of customers I can think of one off the top of my head who is about one off the top of my head who is about 8 years being with sunlighten and she 8 years being with sunlighten and she was so so debilitated and once she was so so debilitated and once she purchased our product she started to be purchased our product she started to be able to walk she because then she able to walk she because then she started to be able to walk then she lost started to be able to walk then she lost weight so the pain also helped with weight so the pain also helped with other conditions as well so we have pain other conditions as well so we have pain relief we have people who buy our relief we have people who buy our products to be healthier with their products to be healthier with their heart cuz we have shown that we can heart cuz we have shown that we can lower blood pressure so people who have lower blood pressure so people who have cardiovascular problems we'll purchase

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cardiovascular problems we'll purchase our product skin people who want their our product skin people who want their skin to look healthier will buy our skin to look healthier will buy our product and then just overall relaxation product and then just overall relaxation you know there science behind this by you know there science behind this by the way absolutely I mean and I know the way absolutely I mean and I know you're from Proctor and Gamble yeah so you're from Proctor and Gamble yeah so I'm very sensitive to science because I I'm very sensitive to science because I said that to you on the phone I said do said that to you on the phone I said do you have any science to back up some of you have any science to back up some of the claims that you're making yes that's the claims that you're making yes that's what makes sunlighten special is that we what makes sunlighten special is that we research and develop a product and then research and develop a product and then make claims based on the proof so I was make claims based on the proof so I was talking to your husband about the talking to your husband about the science a little bit I don't pretend to science a little bit I don't pretend to understand it exactly yes that's okay understand it exactly yes that's okay I'll help you the studies that for wound I'll help you the studies that for wound healing yes the studies for raising healing yes the studies for raising white blood cells yes the studies uh for white blood cells yes the studies uh for increased circulation lowering blood yes increased circulation lowering blood yes uh blood pressure yes for scars that you uh blood pressure yes for scars that you designed your heaters based on the designed your heaters based on the wavelengths of those heaters based on wavelengths of those heaters based on those studies is that correct I want to those studies is that correct I want to put words in your mouth no that's put words in your mouth no that's exactly correct there are 56 different exactly correct there are 56 different studies that are out there on the six

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studies that are out there on the six different programs we use in our full different programs we use in our full spectrum sauna and what we did is we spectrum sauna and what we did is we designed the recipes for each program designed the recipes for each program based on those studies so that we could based on those studies so that we could mimic what has already been done now one mimic what has already been done now one of the reasons why I invited you on the of the reasons why I invited you on the show you know after reading Mark show you know after reading Mark heyman's book meeting Mark Heyman and I heyman's book meeting Mark Heyman and I guess you've been on Dr Oz that not all guess you've been on Dr Oz that not all infrared saas are the same correct so infrared saas are the same correct so help me understand I mean for somebody help me understand I mean for somebody watching this what do they need to know watching this what do they need to know about infrared saas because I guess most about infrared saas because I guess most infrared saas are just far infrared infrared saas are just far infrared sonist correct correct there's a lot to sonist correct correct there's a lot to know there there's I mean we could talk know there there's I mean we could talk for a long time not cover everything for a long time not cover everything because it's confusing out there there's because it's confusing out there there's a lot of myths far infrared there's a a lot of myths far infrared there's a lot to know on that but that's where all lot to know on that but that's where all of the saunas if you see an infrared of the saunas if you see an infrared sauna on the market it's going to be a sauna on the market it's going to be a far infrared what's unique to sunlighten far infrared what's unique to sunlighten is that we offer the most effective Farm is that we offer the most effective Farm Fred and the safest Farm Fred and the Fred and the safest Farm Fred and the highest quality in the farm Fred

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highest quality in the farm Fred category now fast forward after we were category now fast forward after we were on the Oprah Winfrey Show when we were on the Oprah Winfrey Show when we were on the Oprah Winfrey Show Dr Oz we had a on the Oprah Winfrey Show Dr Oz we had a discussion about what we were up to as discussion about what we were up to as far as creating a more advanced far as creating a more advanced technology and that we were going to technology and that we were going to expand the wave link and offer mid and expand the wave link and offer mid and near infrared in a new SAA that was near infrared in a new SAA that was going to becoming available so then when going to becoming available so then when that became available he called us to that became available he called us to have him on his show with the full have him on his show with the full spectrum so how that is different than spectrum so how that is different than far infrared is that it offers all three far infrared is that it offers all three wavelengths from the Sun so there's no wavelengths from the Sun so there's no harmful UV but in the sun's infrared harmful UV but in the sun's infrared Spectrum there's three different Spectrum there's three different wavelengths based on the distance from wavelengths based on the distance from the Sun the farthest wavelength from the the Sun the farthest wavelength from the Sun so farthest goes the deepest goes Sun so farthest goes the deepest goes the deepest and that's what all the the deepest and that's what all the other saas have right okay right and other saas have right okay right and then there's the mid which doesn't go as then there's the mid which doesn't go as deep and is a little bit hotter and then deep and is a little bit hotter and then near which is the closest and this just near which is the closest and this just goes on the surface of the skin and goes on the surface of the skin and that's the one you were talking about a that's the one you were talking about a second going to go as far as wound

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second going to go as far as wound healing and and healing scars and making healing and and healing scars and making the skin look better okay so what are the skin look better okay so what are the advantages then of of this full the advantages then of of this full spectrum because one of the things that spectrum because one of the things that I guess you want to talk about is your I guess you want to talk about is your impulse series yes full spectrum yes impulse series yes full spectrum yes that means it's a combination of all that means it's a combination of all three of those correct correct it means three of those correct correct it means it has the capability to deliver the it has the capability to deliver the entire infrared Spectrum at different entire infrared Spectrum at different wavelengths with different programs wavelengths with different programs focused on specific results so it's a focused on specific results so it's a very powerful sauna that is fine-tuned very powerful sauna that is fine-tuned if you press a pain relief button you're if you press a pain relief button you're going to get a specific software that's going to get a specific software that's powered up to give you the optimum powered up to give you the optimum results and the pain relief program is results and the pain relief program is again based on science so it's not just again based on science so it's not just us behind the scenes saying we think us behind the scenes saying we think it's going to work we are creating the it's going to work we are creating the blend of the near Mid and far based on blend of the near Mid and far based on scientific studies that show that's scientific studies that show that's going to have the best inflammatory going to have the best inflammatory response for the body okay that's one response for the body okay that's one example of uh we also have five other

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example of uh we also have five other programs cardio relaxation weight loss programs cardio relaxation weight loss skin health and detoxification now I skin health and detoxification now I have some of my own questions today have some of my own questions today because I am an owner of one of these because I am an owner of one of these but the part I don't get okay so you go but the part I don't get okay so you go inside and I know I'm pressing weight inside and I know I'm pressing weight loss yes and I'm pressing cardiovascular loss yes and I'm pressing cardiovascular as two different settings what are the as two different settings what are the differences of those settings there's differences of those settings there's going to be that's the part I don't get going to be that's the part I don't get okay there's going to be a complete okay there's going to be a complete different experience which is one of the different experience which is one of the advantages of this product over just advantages of this product over just Farm Fred alone is if you want that day Farm Fred alone is if you want that day to focus on weight loss you're feeling to focus on weight loss you're feeling bloated you just really need to to purge bloated you just really need to to purge that experience is going to be that experience is going to be completely different than if you press completely different than if you press cardio experience meaning what cardio experience meaning what experience the wavelength of the sauna experience the wavelength of the sauna how deep it goes all of the above how deep it goes all of the above experience meaning the intensity the experience meaning the intensity the frequency of the different spectrums the frequency of the different spectrums the length of the program each cardio is a length of the program each cardio is a long program for example than the skin

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long program for example than the skin program the skin is not as long because program the skin is not as long because it doesn't need to be as long to deliver it doesn't need to be as long to deliver this the results of that program but this the results of that program but cardio is a very intense you know it's cardio is a very intense you know it's just going to kick you and and then you just going to kick you and and then you down it's going to kick you again it's a down it's going to kick you again it's a great cooler though part of my worry I great cooler though part of my worry I thought you know is my SAA getting hot thought you know is my SAA getting hot enough right right A lot of people enough right right A lot of people that's a commonly asked question from that's a commonly asked question from customers I mean you're sweating it's customers I mean you're sweating it's not really hot one of the advantages of not really hot one of the advantages of sunlighten far infrared is exactly what sunlighten far infrared is exactly what you're experienc ing is it's easy to you're experienc ing is it's easy to stay in there for the full length of a stay in there for the full length of a program because a lot of times if you program because a lot of times if you don't have high quality far infrared don't have high quality far infrared it's really hot yes and it's hot to it's it's really hot yes and it's hot to it's hard to breathe and you you you feel hard to breathe and you you you feel like I can't wait to get out of here like I can't wait to get out of here yeah but that's not the goal the goal is yeah but that's not the goal the goal is it should be a pleasurable experience it should be a pleasurable experience you should want to stay in there the you should want to stay in there the entire program does that Mak sounds like entire program does that Mak sounds like an exaggeration but I have an an exaggeration but I have an exaggeration I have one it's true I'm exaggeration I have one it's true I'm reading a book I'm even on my cell phone

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reading a book I'm even on my cell phone it's not overheating my cell phone and it's not overheating my cell phone and uh it's like time kind of flies a little uh it's like time kind of flies a little bit so it doesn't have to be as hot like bit so it doesn't have to be as hot like a traditional sauna correct because of a traditional sauna correct because of the way the wavelength is working with the way the wavelength is working with the human body so you're heating the the human body so you're heating the body from the inside correct is that I body from the inside correct is that I mean is that correct right correct we mean is that correct right correct we are elevating the body's core are elevating the body's core temperature something again that's temperature something again that's unique to sunlight and is we have proven unique to sunlight and is we have proven in clinical testing that we can take in clinical testing that we can take your core temperature and we can your core temperature and we can basically give you artificial fever basically give you artificial fever there's tremendous results with giving there's tremendous results with giving you an artificial fever right and now we you an artificial fever right and now we can do that and you can Purge out toxic can do that and you can Purge out toxic elements while still being comfortable elements while still being comfortable inside the Sonic cabin you're not inside the Sonic cabin you're not feeling like oh I've got to get out of feeling like oh I've got to get out of here when you're done you're feeling oh here when you're done you're feeling oh wow that was a rejuvenating session that wow that was a rejuvenating session that was awesome in other types of saunas you was awesome in other types of saunas you get out and you're just like I'm get out and you're just like I'm exhausted does that make sense yeah exhausted does that make sense yeah let's talk about sweating yes as human let's talk about sweating yes as human beings I guess you know and we've

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beings I guess you know and we've discussed this on the telephone that I discussed this on the telephone that I guess a couple hundred years ago or 100 guess a couple hundred years ago or 100 years ago everybody was sweating more years ago everybody was sweating more and now we're not sweating correct it's and now we're not sweating correct it's a problem it's a problem that people a problem it's a problem that people don't sweat as much uh and you say that don't sweat as much uh and you say that the sweat from one of your saas is the sweat from one of your saas is different than the sweat you would get different than the sweat you would get at the gym correct elaborate on that at the gym correct elaborate on that help me understand our sweat is going to help me understand our sweat is going to be thicker it's going to be more viscous be thicker it's going to be more viscous because the content of the sweat is more because the content of the sweat is more than just water when you sweat from the than just water when you sweat from the gym or you're sweating from being gym or you're sweating from being outside here in beautiful San Diego outside here in beautiful San Diego you're sweating water and you're just you're sweating water and you're just changing the body in the sense that changing the body in the sense that you're you're sweating what's coming you're you're sweating what's coming into your body immediately and sweat into your body immediately and sweat coming out of your body what our product coming out of your body what our product is special about is that you're sweating is special about is that you're sweating stuff that's trapped inside your body stuff that's trapped inside your body that if you weren't using our product that if you weren't using our product you wouldn't get it out any other way you wouldn't get it out any other way interesting so it's I think I told you interesting so it's I think I told you on the radio one of my favorite stories on the radio one of my favorite stories is a doctor in Kansas City who says when is a doctor in Kansas City who says when she uses our product her office smells

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she uses our product her office smells like the New Jersey Turnpike because like the New Jersey Turnpike because everything that's coming out of the body everything that's coming out of the body that isn't able to any other way because that isn't able to any other way because of the far infrared the effect of far of the far infrared the effect of far infared wavelength okay and and and so infared wavelength okay and and and so like Metals heavy metals uh different like Metals heavy metals uh different toxins in your body released right toxins in your body released right through this right right it's like through this right right it's like excessive smoke excessive smoke firefighters um you know there's many firefighters um you know there's many people who um lots of different people who um lots of different chemicals you know who are in the chemicals you know who are in the chemical business who have had all that chemical business who have had all that ingested for years and years and and ingested for years and years and and compounded they didn't sweat over the compounded they didn't sweat over the years right so they didn't even just years right so they didn't even just release it naturally like a little bit release it naturally like a little bit at a time so now it's compounded now at a time so now it's compounded now that stuff is heavy in their body and that stuff is heavy in their body and it's trapped and they're now they're it's trapped and they're now they're they're sick they're fatigued and they they're sick they're fatigued and they don't know what to do and they go to the don't know what to do and they go to the doctor sometimes the doctors don't know doctor sometimes the doctors don't know what's what's wrong with them but if what's what's wrong with them but if they get our product and they sweat it

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they get our product and they sweat it out they will notice a release so no out they will notice a release so no doctor would disagree that sweating is doctor would disagree that sweating is healthy correct is that correct correct healthy correct is that correct correct okay and because this is a deep Ray in okay and because this is a deep Ray in the mid the near correct you are getting the mid the near correct you are getting what the toxins out of your body is that what the toxins out of your body is that yeah well you're getting the toxins out yeah well you're getting the toxins out of your body with the far the mid is of your body with the far the mid is going to complement and going to going to complement and going to intensify the effectiveness of the far intensify the effectiveness of the far and then the near has completely and then the near has completely different benefits because of the way different benefits because of the way the wavelength works it really works on the wavelength works it really works on the top of your skin to help accelerate the top of your skin to help accelerate cell turnover to help with wound healing cell turnover to help with wound healing to help with scarring so it's they're to help with scarring so it's they're three complete different heating zones three complete different heating zones and complete different therapies and and complete different therapies and then when you blend them together you then when you blend them together you get this amazing Wellness tool so when get this amazing Wellness tool so when people are you know they go to the people are you know they go to the website or they talk to one of your uh website or they talk to one of your uh sales Consultants what do the frequently sales Consultants what do the frequently ask questions what do they ask every ask questions what do they ask every time yeah we they want to know why time yeah we they want to know why sunlighten why are our products better sunlighten why are our products better than what they see on the market all than what they see on the market all right so what specific questions do they

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right so what specific questions do they want to know they'll say is your far want to know they'll say is your far infrared are your infrared are your heaters carbon and if because there's a heaters carbon and if because there's a lot of stuff on the internet about what lot of stuff on the internet about what type of heaters are best and then they type of heaters are best and then they want to get the best right so they'll want to get the best right so they'll say are your heaters carbon are they the say are your heaters carbon are they the most effective heaters are they the most effective heaters are they the safest heaters so are yours carbon and safest heaters so are yours carbon and what about ceramic sunlighten Farm Fred what about ceramic sunlighten Farm Fred or only carbon and we don't use ceramic or only carbon and we don't use ceramic anymore because the wavelength isn't as anymore because the wavelength isn't as therapeutic as our solo carbon you're therapeutic as our solo carbon you're going to get a higher quality farm for going to get a higher quality farm for red you're going to get a higher red you're going to get a higher quantity with our solo carbon heaters quantity with our solo carbon heaters versus ceramic ceramic is going to get versus ceramic ceramic is going to get you that that um punch of heat that we you that that um punch of heat that we talked about earlier where it could be talked about earlier where it could be too oppressive and the air is really hot too oppressive and the air is really hot but that wavelength is is short and but that wavelength is is short and choppy and it's not really going into choppy and it's not really going into the body to elevate the core temperature the body to elevate the core temperature and to give you that sweat from the and to give you that sweat from the inside out it's going to give you the inside out it's going to give you the sweat just on the outside so you can sweat just on the outside so you can just be sweating water just be sweating water okay the carbon is going to give you

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okay the carbon is going to give you that thick viscous deep sweat when when that thick viscous deep sweat when when you're done you feel like H that was a you're done you feel like H that was a great sauna session and I feel great sauna session and I feel rejuvenated and I feel like I can go rejuvenated and I feel like I can go slice some dragons okay now how are you slice some dragons okay now how are you different than I mean you're not that different than I mean you're not that much more you're a little bit more but much more you're a little bit more but how are you different than these you how are you different than these you know $995 saas so different Randy we're know $995 saas so different Randy we're so different in every aspect as far as so different in every aspect as far as the effectiveness of the heaters you're the effectiveness of the heaters you're talking you know apples and whatever and talking you know apples and whatever and completely different not even the fruit completely different not even the fruit category right so okay but but you get category right so okay but but you get better results are you saying are your better results are you saying are your heaters better I mean what's better the heaters better I mean what's better the construction the heaters all of the construction the heaters all of the above but let's just take it each piece above but let's just take it each piece so the heaters are better because the so the heaters are better because the wavelength is more therapeutic what's wavelength is more therapeutic what's going to what's the difference for the going to what's the difference for the consumer is going to be that thick consumer is going to be that thick viscous sweat if you get the cheap the viscous sweat if you get the cheap the whatever the the dollar volume that you whatever the the dollar volume that you said the amount um you're going to get said the amount um you're going to get hot air in a box so you're going to be hot air in a box so you're going to be it's like bottling this beautiful San it's like bottling this beautiful San Diego Air air inside a cabin and taking

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Diego Air air inside a cabin and taking a sauna that's what you're getting a sauna that's what you're getting interesting okay where ours it's it's interesting okay where ours it's it's it's responding and interacting with the it's responding and interacting with the body again again focusing on that fever body again again focusing on that fever so it's all about the wavelength it's so it's all about the wavelength it's all about the w a tough one to explain all about the w a tough one to explain by the way it's extremely tough I'm by the way it's extremely tough I'm having a tough time here with you it's having a tough time here with you it's it's hard for the consumer to understand it's hard for the consumer to understand that far infrared isn't the same because that far infrared isn't the same because people say that to me all the time well people say that to me all the time well I thought you know Farm Fred are the I thought you know Farm Fred are the same I thought it just makes sense if same I thought it just makes sense if you have Farm Fred and somebody else has you have Farm Fred and somebody else has Farm Fred it's the same the heating Farm Fred it's the same the heating element itself makes a big difference element itself makes a big difference because that's what emits the right because that's what emits the right wavelengths right otherwi if it makes a wavelengths right otherwi if it makes a big difference because the sun emits f big difference because the sun emits f for red so we're walking outside we're for red so we're walking outside we're getting Farm Fred heat but we're not getting Farm Fred heat but we're not lowering our blood pressure and we're lowering our blood pressure and we're not getting an artificial fever just not getting an artificial fever just walking outside right that's the same walking outside right that's the same thing if you get an inexpensive carbon thing if you get an inexpensive carbon heater or inexpensive ceramic heater or heater or inexpensive ceramic heater or even a blend of the two and you put it

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even a blend of the two and you put it in a cabin it's still not going to give in a cabin it's still not going to give you that fever and give you that thick you that fever and give you that thick viscous sweat you're going to sweat viscous sweat you're going to sweat because it's heat but you're not going because it's heat but you're not going to get the results of the science that to get the results of the science that we talked about earlier you're not going we talked about earlier you're not going to get that lowering of blood pressure to get that lowering of blood pressure you're not going to get the significant you're not going to get the significant weight loss the trimming of the belly weight loss the trimming of the belly that which we talk about right it's all that which we talk about right it's all about results so it shrinks your stomach about results so it shrinks your stomach down it trims the belly fat yeah we've down it trims the belly fat yeah we've shown in a study stomach smaller by the shown in a study stomach smaller by the way way my suit I'm only on on on 5 days in it I my suit I'm only on on on 5 days in it I love it the America pharmacist by the love it the America pharmacist by the way a friend of mine Dr uh Arnold she way a friend of mine Dr uh Arnold she swears by it she's the one that actually swears by it she's the one that actually officially pushed me over the edge to officially pushed me over the edge to buy it yes uh she loves it her skin buy it yes uh she loves it her skin clear she's lean and she thinks it's the clear she's lean and she thinks it's the uh maybe it's a placebo to her I told uh maybe it's a placebo to her I told her but then I get it now the same her but then I get it now the same Placebo is happening to me right and you Placebo is happening to me right and you know lots of other people as we talked know lots of other people as we talked about you know the doctors we were on about you know the doctors we were on the doctor show talking about right

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the doctor show talking about right right I saw that little video talking right I saw that little video talking about weight loss and decreasing the about weight loss and decreasing the decreasing your blood pressure and and decreasing your blood pressure and and increasing your heart rate and making increasing your heart rate and making you healthier Dr Orton from the doctors you healthier Dr Orton from the doctors he's he's an old friend of mine and we he's he's an old friend of mine and we talked about your your sonl he goes I've talked about your your sonl he goes I've got to get one for my house they have got to get one for my house they have one I think somewhere in his gym or one I think somewhere in his gym or something like that he's going to get something like that he's going to get one for his for his house but they love one for his for his house but they love it they swear by it every how many times it they swear by it every how many times a week should they do it three times a a week should they do it three times a week at least three times a week right week at least three times a week right that would be the minimum if you can do that would be the minimum if you can do it every day great but it's hard for a it every day great but it's hard for a lot of people to have daily habits like lot of people to have daily habits like that but if you can do it every other that but if you can do it every other day you're going to be great and you're day you're going to be great and you're going to look as good as you and what going to look as good as you and what else does the public need to know if else does the public need to know if they're going to buy an infrared sauna they're going to buy an infrared sauna because look you say they're not all because look you say they're not all alike I mean you're in a great position alike I mean you're in a great position because you're the market leader right because you're the market leader right the biggest names of medicine have the biggest names of medicine have endorsed you okay so what do they need endorsed you okay so what do they need to know they need to know that they need to know they need to know that they need to investigate the science like they to investigate the science like they really need to understand really need to understand that the science is what drives

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that the science is what drives results and if you're looking for results and if you're looking for results if you're look if you're that results if you're look if you're that consumer that we talked about before consumer that we talked about before that you're empowering your Wellness that you're empowering your Wellness you're getting organic foods you know you're getting organic foods you know you're you're trying to be healthier and you're you're trying to be healthier and you're already healthy you need to know you're already healthy you need to know that the either the far infrared that the either the far infrared wavelength or the full spectrum that it wavelength or the full spectrum that it is going to drive results and you you as is going to drive results and you you as a consumer you deserve to see the a consumer you deserve to see the science behind it which is what we work science behind it which is what we work really hard on our website to make sure really hard on our website to make sure it's all there it's all listed all the it's all there it's all listed all the different studies that um are available different studies that um are available for you to review so you can see the for you to review so you can see the belly fat study you can see the lowering belly fat study you can see the lowering of the blood pressure you can see all of of the blood pressure you can see all of that and that's what's really important that and that's what's really important that's what I would want any consumer to that's what I would want any consumer to understand a lot of the other things the understand a lot of the other things the construction the quality the company who construction the quality the company who backs the product you do the whole backs the product you do the whole process we do everything Randy process we do everything Randy everything from the very beginning to to everything from the very beginning to to the science working with uh scientists the science working with uh scientists United States and developing mimicking

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United States and developing mimicking those wavelengths we do all of that here those wavelengths we do all of that here in the United States we do all the in the United States we do all the procuring of all the raw materials we do procuring of all the raw materials we do all of the certifications of all the all of the certifications of all the woods I mean we do everything all the woods I mean we do everything all the way through until you have that way through until you have that beautiful sauna in your home and then we beautiful sauna in your home and then we do all the followup so we manage every do all the followup so we manage every part of that process and yours are unque part of that process and yours are unque easier to put together ours are easier easier to put together ours are easier to put together and they will last yeah to put together and they will last yeah they'll last longer because we have a they'll last longer because we have a Special Assembly process called Magna Special Assembly process called Magna seal and it has magnets that seal the seal and it has magnets that seal the wood together which keeps the Integrity wood together which keeps the Integrity of the wood longer it will minimize any of the wood longer it will minimize any type of warping or bending over time so type of warping or bending over time so uh you don't have to be a handy person uh you don't have to be a handy person to put it together no I proved it by the to put it together no I proved it by the way put one together with my son I put way put one together with my son I put one together with our commercial account one together with our commercial account manager the two of us she's the same manager the two of us she's the same size as I am and we put a believe size as I am and we put a believe together in about an hour and some together in about an hour and some change really you you know I mean to put change really you you know I mean to put up to build the whole thing the door up to build the whole thing the door takes the laun takes the laun knowing what I know now it would take me

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knowing what I know now it would take me probably s minutes if I had another guy probably s minutes if I had another guy s minutes to put the whole thing s minutes to put the whole thing together the roof and and plug the stuff together the roof and and plug the stuff in and then the door again knowing what in and then the door again knowing what I know now would probably take about 15 I know now would probably take about 15 minutes at the most yeah so uh so it's minutes at the most yeah so uh so it's and nobody is doing that is that right and nobody is doing that is that right nobody's doing that we have a patent on nobody's doing that we have a patent on that assembly process correct and that's that assembly process correct and that's easy because people move yes and we want easy because people move yes and we want you to be able to move with you right I you to be able to move with you right I mean a lot of people sell it with their mean a lot of people sell it with their home or or sell you know sell it before home or or sell you know sell it before they move but you can take it with you they move but you can take it with you very easily inside you could watch DVDs very easily inside you could watch DVDs listen to music yes yes you can listen listen to music yes yes you can listen to We have a special therapy called to We have a special therapy called acoustic resonance therapy that's acoustic resonance therapy that's phenomenal that you can listen to that phenomenal that you can listen to that completely balances the brain waves and completely balances the brain waves and it helps you like put your shoulders it helps you like put your shoulders down and melt into the walls of the down and melt into the walls of the sauna while you're taking it it's sauna while you're taking it it's excellent feature that we offer that's excellent feature that we offer that's unique and nobody else I'm going to take unique and nobody else I'm going to take your word on this but nobody else is your word on this but nobody else is doing the near right infrared correct doing the near right infrared correct and the medium or mid correct infrared

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and the medium or mid correct infrared correct nobody has the whole so let's correct nobody has the whole so let's talk about skin for a moment so it's talk about skin for a moment so it's that near that does the skin yes and how that near that does the skin yes and how is it different from the far that's the is it different from the far that's the problem I'm still not getting okay so problem I'm still not getting okay so the far let's talk about that first the the far let's talk about that first the far is going to make your skin glow from far is going to make your skin glow from the inside out so you know after you go the inside out so you know after you go for a run or you exercise a lot of for a run or you exercise a lot of people can notice it and they say oh people can notice it and they say oh you're glowing you look great you look you're glowing you look great you look healthier that is the result of a great healthier that is the result of a great deep sweat from our far infrared part of deep sweat from our far infrared part of the wavelength the kn is going to be the the wavelength the kn is going to be the topical the just the the the resurfacing topical the just the the the resurfacing if you will like it's going to if you will like it's going to accelerate the turnover of your skin to accelerate the turnover of your skin to make the skin look healthier quicker on make the skin look healthier quicker on the top so you're going to get both the top so you're going to get both benefits you're going to get the glowing benefits you're going to get the glowing from the inside out of when you're from the inside out of when you're feeling better and you're healthier from feeling better and you're healthier from a deep sweat as well as the topical a deep sweat as well as the topical aspect now we're just about out of time aspect now we're just about out of time but is there anything else that you're but is there anything else that you're doing that others are not doing in the doing that others are not doing in the infrared SAA business yes we um we own

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infrared SAA business yes we um we own the clinical testing aspect so we not the clinical testing aspect so we not only have the most effective saunas on only have the most effective saunas on the market far infrared and full the market far infrared and full spectrum but we also have the testing to spectrum but we also have the testing to prove it so we have the emissivity data prove it so we have the emissivity data it's fancy word for Effectiveness but we it's fancy word for Effectiveness but we have all that testing done by have all that testing done by Laboratories and engineers in the United Laboratories and engineers in the United States to show exactly what we're States to show exactly what we're claiming on our website that is unique claiming on our website that is unique that nobody else has that in the that nobody else has that in the marketplace and then we also have have marketplace and then we also have have the testing by physicians using our the testing by physicians using our heaters in clinical trials as well as in heaters in clinical trials as well as in their offices results using you know their offices results using you know connected to our product the other type connected to our product the other type of testing that we have is on our Woods of testing that we have is on our Woods our Woods are all sustainable and we our Woods are all sustainable and we have FSC testing and P PFC certification have FSC testing and P PFC certification basically what that means to the light basically what that means to the light consumer is that we have a green product consumer is that we have a green product and it's from a renewable source we care and it's from a renewable source we care about the environment and we're going to about the environment and we're going to go as far as getting certifications to go as far as getting certifications to prove it and then finally we have ETL

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prove it and then finally we have ETL certification which is electrical certification which is electrical certification normally that wouldn't certification normally that wouldn't really matter but what managed the really matter but what managed the consumer on this for our product is it consumer on this for our product is it shows that sunlighten is the shows that sunlighten is the manufacturer and sunlighten controls manufacturer and sunlighten controls again everything from the very beginning again everything from the very beginning to the very end so as a consumer when to the very end so as a consumer when you get our product if anything ever you get our product if anything ever goes wrong so you stand behind the goes wrong so you stand behind the product right we absolutely stand behind product right we absolutely stand behind our product you warrantee the product we our product you warrantee the product we absolutely do and we will stand behind absolutely do and we will stand behind it for many many years to come it's one it for many many years to come it's one nice thing about your company I to say nice thing about your company I to say you know you you have I don't know how you know you you have I don't know how large your company is but I I seem to be large your company is but I I seem to be able to get a person on the phone that's able to get a person on the phone that's great and that's very nice well thank great and that's very nice well thank you we strive to have excellent customer you we strive to have excellent customer care we really care about our customers care we really care about our customers and we care about making a difference in and we care about making a difference in people's lives and in fact this month people's lives and in fact this month February is American Heart month and one February is American Heart month and one of the ways we pay it forward is that of the ways we pay it forward is that every sauna that's purchased in the every sauna that's purchased in the month of February we give a portion of month of February we give a portion of that sale to the American Heart that sale to the American Heart Association so that we can make Association so that we can make healthier Hearts cuz we've already

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healthier Hearts cuz we've already proven to do so through science but we proven to do so through science but we believe in making a difference and believe in making a difference and paying it forward so it's something it's paying it forward so it's something it's you know we do every year to show how you know we do every year to show how much we care about consumers lives and much we care about consumers lives and making their lives healthier one thing making their lives healthier one thing we haven't really talked about is the we haven't really talked about is the solo the portable one I you know I told solo the portable one I you know I told you America's pharmacist Dr Arnold she you America's pharmacist Dr Arnold she uses this one uh but I is it's one of uses this one uh but I is it's one of our most popular units especially you our most popular units especially you can put it anywhere you can put it can put it anywhere you can put it anywhere a lot of people in New York anywhere a lot of people in New York City and Manhattan will use it because City and Manhattan will use it because they don't have a lot of space we have a they don't have a lot of space we have a lot of Wellness facilities that we'll lot of Wellness facilities that we'll put it on top of massage table to put it on top of massage table to provide therapy for detoxification it's provide therapy for detoxification it's completely portable we have a new completely portable we have a new product that has the bamboo carbon product that has the bamboo carbon covering on on it on the exterior the covering on on it on the exterior the benefit of bamboo carbon is it is infr benefit of bamboo carbon is it is infr emitting and antibacterial in nature emitting and antibacterial in nature plus it's really attractive so it's a plus it's really attractive so it's a really nice elegant look to it and when really nice elegant look to it and when you're finished with it you can just you're finished with it you can just push the two domes together and you can push the two domes together and you can turn it over and put it in a corner you turn it over and put it in a corner you can put it in a closet and it's a tossup

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can put it in a closet and it's a tossup of which one I you know I've tried them of which one I you know I've tried them both but I will tell you on the lay down both but I will tell you on the lay down model I sweat more yes well that's model I sweat more yes well that's because you're just getting one because you're just getting one wavelength so a lots of times when you wavelength so a lots of times when you comb the far that's the far infrared comb the far that's the far infrared that's the weight loss one right it's that's the weight loss one right it's effective for weight loss and effective for weight loss and detoxification yes but the full spectrum detoxification yes but the full spectrum what you have the different settings what you have the different settings right right so you're getting all three right right so you're getting all three different wavelengths so they're going different wavelengths so they're going to they're going to be different to they're going to be different experiences with the farm Fred it's experiences with the farm Fred it's going to be the same experience each going to be the same experience each time time and with impulse what you have you're and with impulse what you have you're going to have six different experiences going to have six different experiences depending on which button you choose now depending on which button you choose now what about the de you know I I've gone what about the de you know I I've gone the weight loss I did the cardiovascular the weight loss I did the cardiovascular I pressed the detox and it felt like it I pressed the detox and it felt like it wasn't uh it was not hot at all I mean I wasn't uh it was not hot at all I mean I was sweating but it wasn't hot is it is was sweating but it wasn't hot is it is much more comfortable Co is it a cooler much more comfortable Co is it a cooler setting or something the the the way the setting or something the the the way the wavelength works with your body you're wavelength works with your body you're going to feel it through your sweat

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going to feel it through your sweat versus the air being yeah you don't feel versus the air being yeah you don't feel the air hot and that's the so I felt the air hot and that's the so I felt like I could have sat in there all day like I could have sat in there all day and I immediately thought maybe I'm not and I immediately thought maybe I'm not getting anything out of this well that's getting anything out of this well that's a great that happens a lot people will a great that happens a lot people will call us they're like wait I'm not call us they're like wait I'm not sweating as much as I thought I was sweating as much as I thought I was sweating that means you have an sweating that means you have an effective session that's a good gauge effective session that's a good gauge for that was an excellent session for that was an excellent session because the wav think the way it's because the wav think the way it's working with your body it's it's it's um working with your body it's it's it's um activi activating your body to sweat activi activating your body to sweat From the Inside Out versus sweating just From the Inside Out versus sweating just because the air is hot because anybody because the air is hot because anybody you don't have to be caught up in the you don't have to be caught up in the boiling hot you don't have to be caught boiling hot you don't have to be caught up in the and you don't have to be up in the and you don't have to be caught up in the temperature inside the caught up in the temperature inside the cabin a lot of times people are like my cabin a lot of times people are like my SAA like I want it to get to whatever SAA like I want it to get to whatever pick a you know temperature 150 pick a you know temperature 150 160° but then you're just F focusing on 160° but then you're just F focusing on the convectional Air versus the the convectional Air versus the wavelength that's working with your body wavelength that's working with your body which is what you want you want that which is what you want you want that that Purge surge which comes from a

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that Purge surge which comes from a cooler and farther wavelength is it safe cooler and farther wavelength is it safe I mean I worry about my head being in I mean I worry about my head being in the SAA one of the nice things about the the SAA one of the nice things about the lay down yes my head was out of it and I lay down yes my head was out of it and I don't know any of the research behind don't know any of the research behind this but I mean is there any research to this but I mean is there any research to say that it is safe it's extremely safe say that it is safe it's extremely safe the the infrared heat it comes from the the infrared heat it comes from being um in hospitals that's the heat being um in hospitals that's the heat that is used in the neonatal units that that is used in the neonatal units that are used when a baby is born that is are used when a baby is born that is infrared heat and it's used to mimic the infrared heat and it's used to mimic the mother's womb so it's extreme it's been mother's womb so it's extreme it's been used for many many many years so having used for many many many years so having my head near the heater having your head my head near the heater having your head near the heater is perfectly safe if you near the heater is perfectly safe if you were to lie does that even come up to were to lie does that even come up to people worry about that I thought am I people worry about that I thought am I the only one worried about this um yeah the only one worried about this um yeah it comes up there's some there's some it comes up there's some there's some companies that that talk about you know companies that that talk about you know you shouldn't have heaters above the you shouldn't have heaters above the head if you're inside a cabin you head if you're inside a cabin you shouldn't let it's a good question so shouldn't let it's a good question so it's a great what your thought what are it's a great what your thought what are your thoughts on that it makes you laugh your thoughts on that it makes you laugh almost well I just I don't I don't get almost well I just I don't I don't get it because the way far infrared heat it because the way far infrared heat works with the body if it's effective

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works with the body if it's effective it's heating your core and it's it's it's heating your core and it's it's giving you the fever and it's purging giving you the fever and it's purging your body through sweat that's the your body through sweat that's the mechanism that we've talked about so if mechanism that we've talked about so if it's above your head it doesn't matter it's above your head it doesn't matter where like I said doesn't matter where where like I said doesn't matter where the heat is as long as just it does just the heat is as long as just it does just doesn't matter okay and I googled I mean doesn't matter okay and I googled I mean I Googled whether it was safe Mayo I Googled whether it was safe Mayo Clinic has a study and they said it is Clinic has a study and they said it is safe they feel safe really nothing safe they feel safe really nothing negative about Infrareds out there is negative about Infrareds out there is there no very little no the only thing there no very little no the only thing we hold you know we make sure and tell we hold you know we make sure and tell everybody is you will sweat a lot everybody is you will sweat a lot especially after your body gets um especially after your body gets um accustomed to the wavelength so you need accustomed to the wavelength so you need to make sure you are properly hydrated to make sure you are properly hydrated and you need to pay attention to your and you need to pay attention to your body if you start to get a little Li body if you start to get a little Li headed because you're not used to headed because you're not used to sweating that much because you haven't sweating that much because you haven't you know been doing this type of therapy you know been doing this type of therapy then to stop you know and get out and um

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then to stop you know and get out and um and next time you know not don't stay in and next time you know not don't stay in maybe as long and drink plenty of water maybe as long and drink plenty of water before and after that's what's really before and after that's what's really important is staying hyd how of do you important is staying hyd how of do you use it about three times a week three use it about three times a week three times a week what do you recommend for times a week what do you recommend for most people um as far as the length or most people um as far as the length or yeah I mean I mean how many times a week yeah I mean I mean how many times a week should people use it I would recommend should people use it I would recommend I'd recommend as much as you can do it I'd recommend as much as you can do it but what's most important is to get into but what's most important is to get into a habit that's what's most so if you can a habit that's what's most so if you can do whatever you can do if you can do do whatever you can do if you can do three times a week frequently then do it three times a week frequently then do it three times a week frequently if you can three times a week frequently if you can every day is safe cuz that's how I want every day is safe cuz that's how I want to do it I just received it and I want to do it I just received it and I want to do it every day it's easy it's not to do it every day it's easy it's not hot in the room which is nice and you're hot in the room which is nice and you're awesome if you can do it every day awesome if you can do it every day that's the best but not everybody is that's the best but not everybody is that good as far as making sure they're that good as far as making sure they're you know having good healthy habits but you know having good healthy habits but that would be awesome okay good final that would be awesome okay good final message somebody message somebody considering an infrared sauna yes what considering an infrared sauna yes what do you say to them I would say buy an do you say to them I would say buy an impulse full spectrum SAA and we look

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impulse full spectrum SAA and we look forward to serving you okay and your forward to serving you okay and your website's pretty easy by the way to website's pretty easy by the way to follow they could they could all the follow they could they could all the different models they even have videos different models they even have videos on how to assemble it so uh yes we can on how to assemble it so uh yes we can walk you through how to put it all walk you through how to put it all together and we also have a dedicated uh together and we also have a dedicated uh Team of professionals that can help Team of professionals that can help guide if somebody ever wants to call we guide if somebody ever wants to call we can you know guide them through if they can you know guide them through if they want to ask any question any question is want to ask any question any question is good we have a dedicated customer care good we have a dedicated customer care team team we are there to serve your team team we are there to serve your needs all right I want to thank you for needs all right I want to thank you for coming on the show very interesting good coming on the show very interesting good good you've been watching The Wellness good you've been watching The Wellness hour leader in medical news and hour leader in medical news and information I'm Randy Alvarez if you'd information I'm Randy Alvarez if you'd like to see this interview again online like to see this interview again online it'll be on our website at Wellness it'll be on our website at Wellness hour.com you could just put in Far INF hour.com you could just put in Far INF fored or infrared saas you'll find it fored or infrared saas you'll find it there for now I wish you good help there for now I wish you good help thanks for watching The Wellness hour thanks for watching The Wellness hour the leader in medical news with your the leader in medical news with your host Randy Alvarez the authority on host Randy Alvarez the authority on health issues [Music]

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Who Uses Infrared Sauna

The infrared sauna customer, as Zack describes it, does not fit one clean stereotype. The audience includes prevention-minded wellness consumers, chronically ill people, physicians, clinics, rehabilitation centers, and people seeking support for pain, skin, relaxation, heart health, and weight management.

That breadth is part of the appeal. Infrared sauna is presented less as a luxury object and more as a protocol that adapts to different intentions. One person enters to maintain health; another enters because other routes have not delivered relief.

For the prevention-minded user, the sauna sits beside daily choices already built around health. Zack mentions people who shop at Whole Foods, read ingredients, choose organic foods, and want to prevent future problems through consistent habits. They use the cabin as part of a wider discipline.

This is wellness as maintenance. You do not wait until the body forces a reset; you create the conditions for balance in advance. The ritual becomes one more way to protect vitality before depletion takes hold.

Another group arrives with more urgency. Zack describes chronically ill customers who have tried many physicians, supplements, and approaches before infrared sauna enters the conversation. Some come through a physician recommendation, while others hear about far infrared through a colleague or friend.

The language in this part of the conversation is careful to preserve the source’s claim. Zack says customers report meaningful changes, including less pain, improved movement, weight loss, and renewed function. The common thread is not a single diagnosis; it is the search for support.

Practitioners also appear throughout her account. Physicians recommend the products, own them, and use them with patients. Wellness clinics and rehabilitation centers use infrared sauna protocols, including programs aimed at helping people sweat after exposure to unwanted elements.

Zack and the host also reference Mark Hyman, whose work on diabetes, heart health, longevity, and metabolism brought infrared sauna into broader wellness conversations. The point is not celebrity endorsement alone. It is that practitioners began treating sauna as part of a serious health toolkit.

The benefits Zack lists are broad. She mentions pain relief, cardiovascular support through lower blood pressure, healthier-looking skin, relaxation, and weight loss. She also says Sunlighten researches and develops products, then makes claims based on proof rather than marketing instinct.

For the reader, the lesson is simple. The value of a sauna depends on whether it can become a practice you return to with intention. Recovery strengthens when the protocol fits real life.

Far, Mid, And Near Infrared

Zack’s clearest distinction is between traditional far infrared and full spectrum infrared. Most infrared saunas, she says, use far infrared. Sunlighten’s full spectrum approach adds mid and near infrared, then blends the three wavelengths through programs designed for specific outcomes.

Her explanation begins with the infrared spectrum of the sun, without the harmful ultraviolet component. Far infrared is described as the deepest-reaching wavelength. In the sauna context, Zack connects that depth to raising core temperature and producing the sweat she sees as central to the experience.

Depth is the foundation of her far infrared argument. The heat is not framed as hot air pressing on the skin, but as a wavelength working with the body from within. The outcome she emphasizes is a fuller sweat and a more substantial reset.

Mid infrared plays a different role. Zack says it does not go as deep as far infrared and feels hotter, but it complements and intensifies the effect of far. In full spectrum design, mid infrared adds force without replacing the deeper foundation.

Near infrared stays closest to the surface. Zack connects it to skin-facing benefits, including wound healing, scar support, and healthier-looking skin. Its value comes from precision, because the surface is exactly where those concerns live.

The full spectrum cabin, then, is not simply more heat. It is a way of choosing blends. Zack says Sunlighten created six programs by building recipes from near, mid, and far infrared, each one designed around a different focus.

Those programs include pain relief, cardio, relaxation, weight loss, skin health, and detoxification. Each program changes the experience through the intensity, frequency, wavelength blend, and length of the session. The user does not only sit in heat; the user selects an intention.

You as a consumer, you deserve to see the science behind it.

Zack says the recipes were based on 56 studies connected to the six programs. She describes the process as mimicking what had already been studied, then using software to deliver a specific infrared blend. The science remains accessible because the promise stays practical.

This is where full spectrum becomes a design philosophy. A cardio session should not feel identical to a skin program, because the desired result differs. Protocol gains meaning when the cabin responds to the purpose of the day.

For anyone building a wellness ritual, that specificity matters. Recovery is not one state. Some days call for stillness, some for circulation, some for skin support, and some for a deeper sweat that helps the body feel clear again.

What Quality Changes In The Cabin

Comfort is not a minor detail in Zack’s argument. It determines whether the user can complete the session. A sauna that feels oppressive interrupts the protocol, while a cabin that feels composed allows the body to stay with the work.

The host notes that his own sauna does not feel excessively hot, and Zack identifies that as an advantage. The goal is not to suffer through heat. The goal is to remain in the cabin long enough for the program to do what it was designed to do.

Zack says Sunlighten’s far infrared can elevate core temperature and create what she calls an artificial fever. She presents that rise in core temperature as central to the sauna’s effect, especially when paired with comfort that lets the user finish the full protocol.

The felt outcome is important. Instead of leaving depleted, Zack says users should leave rejuvenated. In her framing, a quality sauna gives intensity without harshness, allowing recovery and resilience to feel deliberate rather than forced.

Sweat becomes the visible sign of that difference. Zack contrasts ordinary exercise sweat with the sweat produced by their infrared sauna, calling it thicker and more viscous. She says the content is more than water, because the body is releasing what has been stored deeper inside.

The goal is it should be a pleasurable experience. You should want to stay in there the entire program.

Her detoxification claims center on accumulated substances. She references heavy metals, chemicals, smoke exposure, and materials that build up over years when people do not sweat enough. In her view, far infrared helps the body release what ordinary sweating does not reach.

That claim should be understood as part of Zack’s case for the product. She is not merely saying heat makes you sweat. She is saying heater quality and wavelength quality determine whether the sweat reflects deep interaction with the body.

This is where the buying question becomes sharper. It is not enough to ask whether a sauna is infrared. Zack returns again and again to the quality of the heater, because the heater emits the wavelengths that shape the experience.

She draws a clear line between carbon and ceramic heaters. Sunlighten, she says, no longer uses ceramic for far infrared because it does not deliver the same wavelength quality as the company’s solo carbon heaters. Ceramic can create a punch of heat, but Zack argues that heat alone is not the goal.

Our sweat is going to be thicker. It's going to be more viscous.

In her comparison, lower-cost saunas can become hot air in a box. You may sweat because the cabin is warm, but she says that does not mean the sauna is producing the core temperature shift, deep sweat, or results connected to the company’s research.

The distinction is subtle but essential. Infrared is a category, not a guarantee. The cabin, the heater, the wavelength, and the comfort all shape whether the ritual feels refined, effective, and repeatable.

Quality changes what happens after the door closes. It determines whether heat becomes stress or sanctuary, whether a session ends in exhaustion or equilibrium. For Zack, that is the difference between owning a sauna and building a protocol.