Transcript: Doctor Fact-checks Andrew Huberman ´ s Most Controversial Health Claims
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Dr. Andrew Huberman is a Stanford professor and one of the most famous scientists and podcasters in the world with over 7 million subscribers on YouTube alone. His podcast racks up millions of regular listeners. But he has been the target of criticism over the years from some scientists and several hit pieces have appeared in the media. Now, to some extent this is normal once you reach a certain level of visibility, you're going to have some haters and some of the pieces are more about his personal life than anything he does professionally. So we're not going to get into any of that. I think most people just want to know is the content reliable or is it broscience? So today we take an objective look at some of Andrew Huberman's most controversial claims spanning caffeine, dopamine, testosterone, cold plunges, the AG1 supplement, and much more. Are the claims based on strong evidence or not so much? First up, testosterone supplements. So Huberman recommends a couple of supplements to boost testosterone with interesting names, tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis. Now, for people that aren't getting prescribed TRT but want the increase in testosterone, there these plant compounds like tonga ali and another one which is very interesting, it's a Nigerian shrub called fadogia agrestis and it mimics luteinizing hormone which is the hormone that comes out of the hypothalamus that stimulates the testes if you've got those and your ovaries if you've got those to make more testosterone or estrogen. And so those two herbal supplements together can give a significant boost in free and active testosterone. So so tongkat has some clinical evidence for it but fadogia was shown to increase testosterone in a study from Nigeria where they gave it to rats for 5 days. As far as I can tell, it's never been tested in human beings or shown to work. He's also talked on different platforms
He's also talked on different platforms about stories of people who say they took these supplements and their testosterone went up. I think he even talks about his own anecdote. But the problem with anecdotes is always the same, there's no control group so we don't really know what's causing what. Especially cuz people are usually taking more than one supplement and there's other things going on. Just hard to tell. Okay, so what? Right? So people can try the supplement for themselves and if it increases their testosterone, great. If it doesn't they wasted some money maybe some time. No big deal, right? Well, the other problem with random supplements is safety because adverse effects including serious ones happen all the time with supplements including natural supplements. And in fact, in the same rat studies they show that if you extend the exposure for a few weeks they see toxicity at the level of the testes, the liver, and the kidneys. The doses at which they start seeing toxicity roughly correspond to the doses that a lot of people are using to supplement fadogia and some of the doses that Andrew Huberman talks about. Fadogia is usually taken at about 600 mg. So when we do the conversion, there's some equations to do this and I ran this real quick and this 600 mg a day dose corresponds roughly to 50 mg per kilo per day in the rats. And that's a dose at which they report toxicity in the rats. Now, obviously there's question marks here, biological differences between rats and humans. Maybe it's totally safe in the humans. We don't see the toxicity that we'd see in the rats or maybe we do. That's the point, we don't know. Now, I did notice that Andrew acknowledged on his podcast that we don't really know what happens safety-wise with fadogia. Uh the side effect profile of fadogia agrestis hasn't really been documented so it's a little unclear. I just want to emphasize that anytime someone's going to start taking supplements that or modifying sex steroid hormones, getting
modifying sex steroid hormones, getting blood work done is extremely important. It's for safety reasons and also just to know whether or not things are working. So I think that's good to state the caveat, it's better than not doing it. I would still have lots of concerns because what if you have damage somewhere in your body that doesn't show up in the blood work that you happen to run? Or what if it causes some irreversible damage? So you see something wrong or you feel something wrong, you stop the supplement but it never reverses completely. So this is why in medicine we do things pretty carefully and we don't recommend supplements to millions of people before there's some clinical trials in human beings, right? Just because it worked in rats in Nigeria once and there's some stories from friends it's not really compelling. And let's not forget, we don't know the safety profile. We also don't know the efficacy side, right? It's not like we know that it works, we just don't know if it's safe. We don't know either one in human beings. I just want to emphasize, Huberman has many other recommendations on testosterone that are based on very strong evidence. So he talks about maintaining low body fat. He talks about resistance training. He talks about the importance of sleep. He emphasizes lifestyle that you're going to get most of your results from the basics, a healthy diet and exercise, and these supplements are going to give you maybe a small nudge. So that's an important clarification and he does that very clearly. So I'm not trying to tell you that everything he says is bunk. Not at all, right? He says lots of things that are solid. This is more random and maybe because it's random it's become more famous and more controversial and people ask about it. Personally, I wish he would have kept it out, but that's me. By the way, I posted all of this breakdown, everything that I'm talking about in this video on X and I tagged Andrew and I asked him a number of questions and I asked him to comment. I haven't heard back, but if he ever wants to talk about any of this or has uh different arguments or disagrees or has seen different evidence happy to chat anytime. Next, cold plunges and dopamine. So this
Next, cold plunges and dopamine. So this is another famous one. Andrew often talks about a study where cold exposure increased dopamine levels by 250%. The subjects also experienced a 250% increase in dopamine concentrations. And I do believe that these documented effects in humans explain much of the enhancement of attention and of feelings of well-being and mood that people typically experience after doing deliberate cold exposure. So this is technically true. This is referring to a study where they took 10 young men and exposed them to baths, water of three different temperatures, and the lowest one, which was 14 ° C, caused their baseline dopamine level to go up 2. 5 times. So 250%. But there's a number of problems with the implications here because this level of dopamine was measured in the plasma, in their blood. And dopamine doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. So it doesn't go from the plasma into the brain. So the dopamine that's produced and acts in the brain and the dopamine that's produced in the body and that's in the plasma, what we say peripherally these are two different compartments and they have different physiological functions. This dopamine in the body in the plasma is part of a stress response. So cold is a stressor, it fires up your sympathetic nervous system kind of your fight or flight response and that causes some of these hormones to be produced by your adrenal glands that sit atop your kidneys, adrenaline, noradrenaline, and dopamine. And they have all kinds of physiological functions in the body. They regulate the muscle of the artery walls, they contract and dilate. They also regulate kidney function and metabolism in general. So it's a response to stress in the body, but this is completely different from the actions of dopamine
of dopamine in the central nervous system which is what we typically associate with dopamine, the reward and the motivation and the pleasure, right? We normally think of dopamine as the pleasure hormone or the pleasure neurotransmitter. To me it's a huge logical leap to associate these plasma levels of dopamine to these mood effects that we associate with dopamine in the nervous system. Here he is suggesting that connection again. What's interesting about deliberate cold exposure through you know, cold plunge or what have you, is that people generally report feeling very good almost to like a mild euphoria for many hours afterwards, elevated focus many hours afterwards. And that maps beautifully onto the I can see those images in the paper now of the you know, the big dopamine increase and the norepinephrine increase. I think it's three graphs set above one another um vertically in that paper where I mean this is long arcs of dopamine release way above baseline. Now, alertness and feeling awake after cold exposure, yeah, we would expect that even from the sympathetic nervous system stimulation. But as for any of these mood-related, the euphoria the pleasure, the drive, the motivation that we associate with dopamine in the central nervous system I wouldn't conclude any of that link from this. And the first time I heard him suggest this I thought this was too obvious of an oversight that maybe I'm missing something and somebody would have said something. Turns out somebody did. Professor Stephen Quartz, who has researched dopamine, he had a similar reaction but he worded it much more strongly. He wrote, "These are obviously false and misleading statements. Plasma dopamine, so blood dopamine, cannot be used to infer central dopamine levels." By central he's talking about central nervous system. Huberman even establishes this parallel between cold exposure and stimuli like nicotine and chocolate and sex and cocaine on the basis that all of them
cocaine on the basis that all of them increase dopamine dramatically like several fold and even suggests that cold has an advantage because all these other stimuli the effect on dopamine is transient. So it goes up a lot but it comes down pretty quickly. Whereas with cold he suggests the effect is maintained. Dopamine levels started to rise somewhat slowly and then continued to rise and reach levels as high as 2. 5 times above baseline. That's a remarkably high increase. Remember if we go back to our examples of chocolate sex a doubling above baseline nicotine two and a half times above baseline cocaine the increase in dopamine from a cold water exposure of this kind was comparable to what one sees from cocaine except except in this case it wasn't a rise and crash. It was actually a sustained rise in dopamine that took a very long time up to 3 hours to come back down to baseline which is really remarkable and I think this explains some of the positive mental and physical effects that people report subjectively after doing cold water exposure. Now I couldn't find the sources for these other claims on his podcast in the description to the YouTube video or the website but typically where we see this response this big spike in dopamine that is transient these are measurements in the brain of animals in the lab typically rodents rats or mice that have micro capillaries implanted into their brain and they're measuring dopamine levels in specific areas of the nervous system like the nucleus accumbens which is a part of the brain that plays an important role for dopaminergic signaling. So this has nothing to do with this paper in humans looking at plasma levels upon exposure to cold completely different universes. So I think this all
different universes. So I think this all came from there's all these stories of people saying they feel great and they feel euphoric after cold plunges or ice baths or whatever and then someone found this increase in dopamine upon cold exposure ah dopamine must explain the mood changes but scientifically I don't find this argument compelling at all. Another important thing to point out is this study with the cold exposures they're long exposures 1 hour in the cold water whereas a lot of these protocols for ice baths and cold exposure that people are using are really short. In fact Huberman recommends really rapid sessions 1 to 5 minute sessions. So again this has nothing to do with that paper there's no reason to think that the changes they saw there would be seen with this type of protocol. So if you like ice baths or cold plunges why not go for it. And there are other demonstrated benefits it's anti-inflammatory speeds up recovery after intense exercise athletes use it so there's other reasons to do it. This argument of the dopamine and the mood and the reward I don't find it compelling. Next the caffeine delay. This is one of Huberman's most popular and controversial claims. It's the idea that you want to wait after you wake up for an hour and a half to 2 hours before you have some caffeine to avoid the afternoon crash. Here he is explaining it. And there's actually a trick to avoid the daytime the afternoon crash. It's not a trick it's biology. Caffeine is an adenosine antagonist. It basically as the longer you're awake adenosine builds up in your bloodstream. It's what makes you feel fatigued. Caffeine essentially blocks the adenosine receptor but then when caffeine wears off the adenosine that's still around binds to that receptor and you crash you feel really sleepy. So one thing that you can do is when you wake up in the morning don't ingest caffeine for the first 90 minutes or so like really push that off so that the adenosine and adenosine receptor interactions can all take place
receptor interactions can all take place and dissipate then you drink caffeine and what you'll find is that if normally you would crash around 2 or 3 in the afternoon you don't experience that crash anymore. Mhm. Because the caffeine wears off but there isn't a lot of adenosine there to bind the receptor. So this seems to make perfect sense. Adenosine makes you tired makes you sleepy caffeine inhibits adenosine. So if we wait a little bit in the morning before we have caffeine it gives our body time to clear the remaining lingering adenosine so that later on in the day when the caffeine wears off there's no adenosine around to make us tired in the afternoon. Seems to make perfect sense but the reality is this is completely speculative and it's never been shown in humans to work this way. And researchers in this field have pointed out the logic he lays out there doesn't even make sense biologically. They write changes in adenosine upon waking occur on the order of minutes not hours. So adenosine would clear pretty fast upon waking up and since caffeine takes a while to take effect it needs to be absorbed in your gut go into the bloodstream reach your brain affect neurons by that time all the adenosine would have been cleared out before caffeine is doing anything. The researchers continue any suggestion that adenosine is continuing to decline upon waking demonstrates a lack of understanding of the sleep wake cycle influence on adenosine and would form a poor basis for recommending delaying caffeine for an hour and a half to 2 hours in the morning. And finally a fundamental basis for suggesting that delaying caffeine in the morning prevents an afternoon crash is completely lacking. Now there's many reasons why someone might feel better delaying caffeine including just placebo effect and many others. So just do whatever works for you. If you feel better having caffeine later in the day or not having it great why not. If you feel better having it earlier right after you wake up we
it earlier right after you wake up we don't have convincing evidence to tell you that that's a problem. And in fairness I've seen Huberman recently somewhat moderate or even walk back this claim maybe as a result of the push back it got. I regret maybe even discussing it for people that crash in the afternoon. Often times if they delay their caffeine by 60 to 90 minutes in the morning they will offset some of that. But if you eat a lunch that's too big or you didn't sleep well the night before you're not going to avoid that. So bottom line I think this one is similar to the dopamine it's an over claim. Basically an idea that someone had and some stories some anecdotes just presented confidently as a scientific fact. Not dangerous per se for most people at least just a little random. And finally let's look at AG1 the famous or infamous supplement. AG1 stands for athletic greens and it's a sponsor of Huberman's podcast and it features him pretty prominently on their marketing and it's a green powder supplement and he advertises the supplement in the middle of his podcasts. So you're watching him talking about some scientific topic and suddenly he's telling you about AG1. Leverage all sorts of aspects of the dopamine system in order to increase your motivation especially when things get really hard or when you have the propensity to procrastinate which is something that we'll get into a little bit later in the podcast. I'd like to take a quick break and acknowledge one of our sponsors Athletic Greens. Athletic Greens now called AG1. Now I've never heard him cite any evidence that it works that it does anything but he makes all kinds of anecdotal claims that are pretty striking. I discovered AG1 back in 2012 long before I ever had a podcast and I've been taking it every day since. I find it improves all aspects of my health my energy my focus and I simply feel much better when I take it. Obviously we understand that this is a script he's reading from some teleprompter it's it's a commercial it's an ad. But I personally and let me know if you
But I personally and let me know if you disagree with this I find this a little distasteful. You're watching a scientist that you trust talking about a scientific topic and suddenly he starts telling you about this supplement he takes and is so great. This comes with a certain implied weight of science and evidence that he has evaluated it that he has gone over the evidence and the evidence is compelling right? Just by nature of who he is being a professional scientist. But the truth is this has very little evidence to back it up. So I found a couple trials looking at AG1 which is good let me say first of all because a lot of these proprietary supplements that are promoted by influencers are never tested in trials in human beings ever. So it's a complete crap shoot. Here the manufacturer the company actually bothered to run trials which is good and the largest one that I've seen came out last year recent 2025 and it's a randomized trial triple blinded with a placebo control so robust design and they followed 120 participants for 3 months. And the title that they chose is AG1 does not negatively impact blood safety biomarkers which is true but it didn't impact them positively either. It didn't do anything. There were no significant changes to any of the metrics they measured. And bear in mind AG1 is pretty pricey. I looked it up seems to be $ 99 for one pouch which has 30 servings so it'd be a month if you take it daily. That's for a single pouch. If you sign up for their monthly subscription ongoing thing then it comes down to about $ 80 per pouch per month. So it's almost $ 1, 000 a year for this one supplement it's pretty steep. Now there's another trial that comes close to being a steel man argument. I was thinking, okay, how would you justify this or recommend this? What's the strongest argument we can find?
the strongest argument we can find? There is one trial where they gave it to people on a poor diet low in fruits and vegetables, basically a standard Western diet. They gave them AG1 and the level in their blood of certain vitamins, vitamin C, folate, which is a type of B vitamin, that went up a bit and their homocysteine levels came down 10%, which often happens when you increase B vitamins. So, yeah, if you eat a poor diet and you're not down to change that, but you are down to take the supplement, I think it could help get a bit more vitamins. Yeah, that's a valid, I think. But, bear in mind you could do the same thing with a run-of - the-mill multivitamin and maybe a probiotic, right? You get these in your grocery store for 10 times, 20 times less. But, Huberman tells his viewers that he puts AG1 at the top of his list. Whenever I'm asked if I could take just one supplement, what that supplement would be, I always say AG1. So, I don't really understand that. This is your number one? There's so many supplements with stronger evidence, with benefit demonstrated, that are much cheaper. I don't get it. How do you say this is number one? Look, Andrew Huberman is a very charismatic communicator. He's a very good speaker, very fluent speaker, and he has clearly motivated lots of people to live healthier lives, to sleep better, to exercise more, to be fitter, to be leaner, and that's fantastic. That's a great contribution. I think it's unfortunate, and I mean this as constructive criticism, that some of the claims that are peppered in there are based on weak evidence or no evidence sometimes. Anecdotes or something in rats or an idea that somebody had, and this makes it really difficult for a viewer to separate what's strong science, what's strong recommendation, what's just a random idea that's never been tested. the evidence goes against it. A viewer can't tell. And viewers tune in to scientists precisely for us to do that legwork. It's implied that we've done that, right? And can
that we've done that, right? And can separate the wheat from the chaff. So, in my opinion, Andrew's content is strongest without these exaggerations or more random bits. And he has lots of advice that is based on strong science. He has a number of interviews with world-leading scientists. So, I would keep that, I would cherish that, and I would be wary of these. For a lot more on the benefits of coffee, check out this previous video, and if you want to see another popular influencer scrutinized, fact-checked, check out this video down here, and I'll see you in there.