Barbara O’Neill: On Longevity, Gut Microbiome, Immune System, and Anti-Aging Basics | TUH #203 | Vitruvian

Video·Ultimate Human Podcast with Gary Brecka·10 min read·September 23, 2025

A grounded outline of the episode’s core longevity themes: simple daily rituals, the microbiome, immune resilience, and the need to separate useful basics from contested health claims.

Longevity Starts With Basics

Longevity begins with what survives scrutiny across real lives. In the conversation, Gary frames anti-aging through Blue Zones and lived data, not through a single doctrine. The longest-lived communities do not share one perfect diet. They share patterns that create durable health.

Those patterns are simple and demanding in the best way. People move often. They stay connected. They eat food close to its natural state. They keep purpose in view, not as a slogan, but as a daily orientation that gives the body and mind a reason to remain engaged.

This matters because modern wellness often reaches for complexity first. A supplement can feel precise. A chamber can feel advanced. A new protocol can feel like mastery. Yet the Blue Zones point back to quieter foundations: movement, community, purpose, and whole food eaten consistently over time.

That does not make advanced tools irrelevant. It places them in order. Recovery technology, targeted nutrition, and deliberate protocols can support the body when the basics are already in place. They cannot replace the ordinary disciplines that regulate appetite, digestion, sleep, relationships, and attention.

The clearest common enemy in the conversation is processed food. Not carbohydrate as a category. Not fat as a category. Not the presence or absence of meat. The shared concern is food that has been stripped, rebuilt, preserved, sweetened, emulsified, and marketed until it no longer resembles the source it came from.

That distinction restores agency. You do not need to live inside dietary argument to make better choices. You can ask whether the food in front of you still carries the integrity of a plant, animal, grain, nut, seed, or mineral source. The further it travels from that origin, the more discernment it asks of you.

Body awareness becomes the first longevity ritual. The body speaks through digestion, appetite, bloating, constipation, ease, and discomfort. These signals are not inconveniences to silence; they are feedback. When you listen with steadiness, you begin to notice which choices create equilibrium and which choices disturb it.

We all want the clean answer. We want the single diet, the missing compound, the decisive rule. The conversation resists that urgency. Longevity is not built by chasing novelty. It is built by returning to what the body recognizes, and repeating it with intention.

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Did you know that they used to have in the medical journals the graphs and if the medical journals the graphs and if you look at the original graphs the you look at the original graphs the infectious diseases were 3/4 sometimes infectious diseases were 3/4 sometimes totally wiped out and then the vaccine totally wiped out and then the vaccine was introduced. was introduced. >> I have a hard time believing that we >> I have a hard time believing that we need 79 vaccines before you're 18 years need 79 vaccines before you're 18 years old in order to just exist in the world. old in order to just exist in the world. >> That's a total denial that our body can >> That's a total denial that our body can heal itself because it can. I agree and heal itself because it can. I agree and I acknowledge that people have the I acknowledge that people have the symptoms, but we have seen people heal symptoms, but we have seen people heal from all the autoimmune diseases that from all the autoimmune diseases that you might mention to me. you might mention to me. >> Some of the characteristics of the >> Some of the characteristics of the immune system that people might not know immune system that people might not know about. I mean, I think we're very about. I mean, I think we're very familiar with the fact that it defends familiar with the fact that it defends us. Remember that there's an us. Remember that there's an intermediary between the food that you intermediary between the food that you eat and you we don't eat to feed eat and you we don't eat to feed ourselves. We eat to feed our gut ourselves. We eat to feed our gut bacteria and they eat to feed us. Well, bacteria and they eat to feed us. Well, it is estimated that 70% of our immune it is estimated that 70% of our immune system is established by our gut flora. system is established by our gut flora. So, what destroys our gut flora is the

So, what destroys our gut flora is the antibiotics. antibiotics. >> We know that the immune system is >> We know that the immune system is hypervigilant. And so, how do we hypervigilant. And so, how do we strengthen our immune system? strengthen our immune system? >> That's a good question. Very good >> That's a good question. Very good question. It needs us to be >> ultimate human. Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brea, where we go down biologist Gary Brea, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, the road of everything anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today's guest, most of my between. And today's guest, most of my audience knows her. Um, she has been audience knows her. Um, she has been referred to as the grandmother of the referred to as the grandmother of the world, I just found out, world, I just found out, which I think is a great title. Um, which I think is a great title. Um, because I'm an enormous, enormous fan of because I'm an enormous, enormous fan of our guest. Welcome to the podcast, our guest. Welcome to the podcast, Barbara O'Neal. Barbara O'Neal. >> Thank you. Yes. I count it a great honor >> Thank you. Yes. I count it a great honor to be termed the grandma of the world.

to be termed the grandma of the world. And so, why the grandma of the world? And so, why the grandma of the world? Coming back to basics, I guess. Yeah, Coming back to basics, I guess. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Right before you know, it's interesting. Right before the the camera started rolling, we the the camera started rolling, we talked about how, you know, on my talked about how, you know, on my journey into wellness, longevity, journey into wellness, longevity, anti-aging, what have you. Um, when you anti-aging, what have you. Um, when you look at the big data, blue zones, uh, look at the big data, blue zones, uh, what's truly extending life, um, it what's truly extending life, um, it really is the basics. It is I mean the really is the basics. It is I mean the three common denominators with these in three common denominators with these in the blue zone was uh very active, the blue zone was uh very active, >> very social and eating food in its >> very social and eating food in its natural state. They were the three natural state. They were the three common denominators. common denominators. >> You know, I I found that fascinating too >> You know, I I found that fascinating too because we want the answer to be a because we want the answer to be a dogmatic diet, right? It's either all dogmatic diet, right? It's either all carnivore, all keto, all paleo, all carnivore, all keto, all paleo, all vegan, all vegetarian, all pescatarian. vegan, all vegetarian, all pescatarian. >> But the truth is there was no continuity >> But the truth is there was no continuity between the diets. You had high between the diets. You had high carbohydrate consumption. You had high carbohydrate consumption. You had high meat consumption, high fatty fish and

meat consumption, high fatty fish and oils, and very long life expecties. And oils, and very long life expecties. And I always tease the French because they I always tease the French because they screwed up the whole model because screwed up the whole model because they're smoking cigarettes and eating they're smoking cigarettes and eating cheese and drinking wine and living 100 cheese and drinking wine and living 100 years old. So the heck with the French. years old. So the heck with the French. Um but uh uh you know it's in in this Um but uh uh you know it's in in this journey, you know, I think everyone journey, you know, I think everyone wants it to be this special supplement. wants it to be this special supplement. Oh, it's NAD. That's what I'm missing. Oh, it's NAD. That's what I'm missing. It's it's red light therapy. It's a It's it's red light therapy. It's a hyperbaric chamber. It's um you know NMN hyperbaric chamber. It's um you know NMN or you know it's any number of things. or you know it's any number of things. Uh and I think you can make an argument Uh and I think you can make an argument for those things you know at different for those things you know at different times. But the truth is it's what times. But the truth is it's what continuity ran through all of the blue continuity ran through all of the blue zones was the absence of processed zones was the absence of processed foods. foods. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> Um >> Um >> that's true. >> that's true. >> And you know what you pointed out as uh >> And you know what you pointed out as uh sense of community, sense of community, >> sense of purpose. Um, you know, and I >> sense of purpose. Um, you know, and I found this in my own life that, uh, you found this in my own life that, uh, you know, nature is medicine. Um,

know, nature is medicine. Um, >> and connection is medicine. And I think >> and connection is medicine. And I think we're the most disconnected we've ever we're the most disconnected we've ever been in in history, you know, trying to been in in history, you know, trying to create connection through our devices. create connection through our devices. >> And, and we're totally disconnected from >> And, and we're totally disconnected from our bodies. M. our bodies. M. >> And that's probably the hardest thing >> And that's probably the hardest thing that I I do is teach people to begin that I I do is teach people to begin listening and trusting their bodies. listening and trusting their bodies. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it it sends us >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it it sends us signals, right? Constipation. signals, right? Constipation. >> It does. >> It does. >> Bloating. >> Bloating. >> It does. It speaks to us. >> It does. It speaks to us. >> Yeah. We just decide to tune it out. >> Yeah. We just decide to tune it out. >> Yes. You know, one of the things I've >> Yes. You know, one of the things I've I've really admired about you is that um I've really admired about you is that um you know, I I was talking about the the you know, I I was talking about the the talk that I'm doing today at the Health talk that I'm doing today at the Health Optimization Summit, and I put this Optimization Summit, and I put this really confusing chart up on the stage really confusing chart up on the stage in front of the audience for a reason in front of the audience for a reason because it looks like this super because it looks like this super complicated myriad of transactions going complicated myriad of transactions going on. But when you zoom in on it, you see on. But when you zoom in on it, you see very very common elements, vitamins,

very very common elements, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, um nutrients of minerals, amino acids, um nutrients of all kinds that that when you deplete all kinds that that when you deplete these in the human body, you know, my these in the human body, you know, my philosophy is you get the expression of philosophy is you get the expression of disease disease >> and then we begin to think that we can >> and then we begin to think that we can treat that expression of disease with a treat that expression of disease with a chemical or a synthetic or chemical or a synthetic or pharmaceutical. Um, one of the things pharmaceutical. Um, one of the things that I I really uh would love to touch that I I really uh would love to touch on with you because I just left a on with you because I just left a meeting this morning with a very very meeting this morning with a very very close friend of mine, uh, the Mansour close friend of mine, uh, the Mansour family, and they've just had a new baby, family, and they've just had a new baby, and her first questions to me were about and her first questions to me were about infant formula and and vaccines. by the infant formula and and vaccines. by the time this podcast airs um and I'll hold time this podcast airs um and I'll hold this until the report is out but Bobby this until the report is out but Bobby Kennedy is releasing releasing a report Kennedy is releasing releasing a report maha report and one of these uh key maha report and one of these uh key investigations is what is the root cause

investigations is what is the root cause of autism of autism >> and we know it's a neurinflammatory >> and we know it's a neurinflammatory condition we see that it's had a condition we see that it's had a parabolic rise in the United States it's parabolic rise in the United States it's mind-numbing I don't mind-numbing I don't >> maybe I'm not getting statistic exactly >> maybe I'm not getting statistic exactly correct, but it was about 1 in 10,000 in correct, but it was about 1 in 10,000 in the 50s and 60s. the 50s and 60s. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And now it's about 1 in 32. >> And now it's about 1 in 32. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Um and shows no signs of slowing down. >> Um and shows no signs of slowing down. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And interestingly, I thought the primary >> And interestingly, I thought the primary uh driver I thought would be uh driver I thought would be vaccination, but it turns out that it's vaccination, but it turns out that it's infant formula infant formula >> and u uh blue light coming from screens. >> and u uh blue light coming from screens. these artificial lights coming from these artificial lights coming from screens changing brain physiology. Um, screens changing brain physiology. Um, but it's so hard for pregnant women that but it's so hard for pregnant women that either can't breastfeed, aren't either can't breastfeed, aren't breastfeeding either because of breastfeeding either because of lifestyle challenges or because of some lifestyle challenges or because of some kind of medical challenge. Um, and what kind of medical challenge. Um, and what do you recommend for these women like

do you recommend for these women like where can they go to find good sources where can they go to find good sources of nutrition for their infants? It it is of nutrition for their infants? It it is very difficult and I very much encourage very difficult and I very much encourage women to really persevere at women to really persevere at breastfeeding because it is the perfect breastfeeding because it is the perfect milk and it is the best and true um milk and it is the best and true um often stress can can actually inhibit often stress can can actually inhibit >> the the milk flow. >> the the milk flow. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But when you look at the animal kingdom, >> But when you look at the animal kingdom, the little animal that's very close to the little animal that's very close to human baby in size is goat's milk. M human baby in size is goat's milk. M >> and historically goats milk has been >> and historically goats milk has been given to babies for centuries given to babies for centuries >> and I know in Australia you can get >> and I know in Australia you can get goats milk formula. I have 25 goats milk formula. I have 25 grandchildren and grandchildren and >> you have 25 grandchild. >> you have 25 grandchild. >> I do. I do. >> I do. I do. >> That's why you're the grandmother of the >> That's why you're the grandmother of the world. It's not because world. It's not because >> and don't forget the four great. >> and don't forget the four great. >> Oh yeah, you got four greats. Oh boy. >> Oh yeah, you got four greats. Oh boy. But um I know that my grandchildren that But um I know that my grandchildren that weren't breastfed or breastfed for a weren't breastfed or breastfed for a small while, they all went on goats

small while, they all went on goats milk. And I've had so many people milk. And I've had so many people testify to me. My brother had eczema. My testify to me. My brother had eczema. My mother put him on goats milk. It all mother put him on goats milk. It all cleared up. So goats milk, it's stood cleared up. So goats milk, it's stood the test of time the test of time >> and it's used also by some >> and it's used also by some pediatricians. if a baby has asthma or pediatricians. if a baby has asthma or eczema, which are very common allergens eczema, which are very common allergens in goats in the cow's milk formula. in goats in the cow's milk formula. >> So, going over to the goats milk >> So, going over to the goats milk formula. formula. >> And do you think the raw version of >> And do you think the raw version of goats milk? goats milk? >> Well, I said yes once in Australia and I >> Well, I said yes once in Australia and I think that's one of the reasons I'm think that's one of the reasons I'm banned in Australia. banned in Australia. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But if if it is from a raw goat, it must >> But if if it is from a raw goat, it must be a healthy source, of course, and it be a healthy source, of course, and it must be clean utensils, all of that sort must be clean utensils, all of that sort of stuff. So, of stuff. So, >> but not pasteurized, non-homogenized. >> but not pasteurized, non-homogenized. >> Well, ideally, >> Well, ideally, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> ideally, >> ideally, >> I would I would agree with I I would >> I would I would agree with I I would actually agree with that, too. actually agree with that, too. >> And the the other point is with the >> And the the other point is with the autism, do you know there's a group of autism, do you know there's a group of people in America about 2% autism

people in America about 2% autism >> and that's the Amish >> and that's the Amish >> and the Amish don't vaccinate. >> and the Amish don't vaccinate. >> But I agree with you. In fact, I have >> But I agree with you. In fact, I have learned if I've learned anything in my learned if I've learned anything in my many years on this planet is never to be many years on this planet is never to be absolute. Mhm. absolute. Mhm. >> But in the majority of cases, it does >> But in the majority of cases, it does point to the vaccines because of the point to the vaccines because of the neurotoxins, the faldahhide, the neurotoxins, the faldahhide, the aluminium, but the blue light coming aluminium, but the blue light coming from the screens. You see it in the from the screens. You see it in the airport all the time. Mother feeding a airport all the time. Mother feeding a baby, the phone's in the in the other baby, the phone's in the in the other hand. I say, "Mother, put the phone down hand. I say, "Mother, put the phone down and look at that beautiful baby." and look at that beautiful baby." >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> And also the formulas, you know, the the >> And also the formulas, you know, the the the formulas are formulated in a the formulas are formulated in a laboratory, laboratory, >> right? Um, yeah, not the best for >> right? Um, yeah, not the best for babies. babies. >> You know, it's I I I I talk commonly >> You know, it's I I I I talk commonly about seed oils and not in an attempt to about seed oils and not in an attempt to attack the plant, but usually it's the attack the plant, but usually it's the distance from the plant. distance from the plant. >> Oh, it's the distance from the plant. >> Oh, it's the distance from the plant. And I have stopped calling myself a And I have stopped calling myself a vegan because plant seed oils are vegan,

vegan because plant seed oils are vegan, chemicals are vegan, refined sugars chemicals are vegan, refined sugars vegan, and you vegan vegan, and you vegan >> and I was >> and I was >> potato chips are vegan. >> potato chips are vegan. I was at an event and they had a carrot I was at an event and they had a carrot cake. It was a plant-based event, vegan, cake. It was a plant-based event, vegan, and this white fluff was on top. And I and this white fluff was on top. And I said, "What's that?" said, "What's that?" >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And they said, "It's vegan. It's vegan." >> And they said, "It's vegan. It's vegan." And I say, "I know cow's milk. I know And I say, "I know cow's milk. I know coconut cream, but what's that?" And coconut cream, but what's that?" And then they brought out this spray can, then they brought out this spray can, which number one put me off. I'm reading which number one put me off. I'm reading the ingredients, cheap seed oils, the ingredients, cheap seed oils, chemicals, refined sugar. I said, "I'll chemicals, refined sugar. I said, "I'll just have the carrot cake." From that just have the carrot cake." From that day, I no longer call myself a vegan. I day, I no longer call myself a vegan. I eat plants. eat plants. >> Plant-based. >> Plant-based. Yeah. You know, it's You ever read the Yeah. You know, it's You ever read the back of a like a nunburger? back of a like a nunburger? >> Um, and I mean, but I'm I'm a human >> Um, and I mean, but I'm I'm a human biologist and a scientist, and I can't biologist and a scientist, and I can't pronounce nor even know what half of pronounce nor even know what half of those things are. Um, the thickening those things are. Um, the thickening agents, the binders, the fillers, agents, the binders, the fillers, >> and and if you can't pronounce it, it >> and and if you can't pronounce it, it shouldn't be going in.

shouldn't be going in. >> Yeah. You know, someone said to me one >> Yeah. You know, someone said to me one time, you know, when you're reading the time, you know, when you're reading the back of a label, if you don't know where back of a label, if you don't know where to find it in the grocery store, so it's to find it in the grocery store, so it's got polyorbate 80. I don't need to know got polyorbate 80. I don't need to know what that is. I just need to know if I what that is. I just need to know if I could find it on the shelf in the could find it on the shelf in the grocery store. Can I find high fructose grocery store. Can I find high fructose corn syrup? Um, you know, can I find red corn syrup? Um, you know, can I find red dye number four? Um, and if you can't dye number four? Um, and if you can't find it in the grocery store, it's find it in the grocery store, it's probably a very highly processed food. probably a very highly processed food. And and that actually took a lot of And and that actually took a lot of pressure off of me because I thought pressure off of me because I thought that I would have to index this that I would have to index this encyclopedia of chemicals and understand encyclopedia of chemicals and understand them all. them all. >> Yeah. No, no need. No need. >> Yeah. No, no need. No need. >> So So um goats milk and you know >> So So um goats milk and you know vaccination is such a controversial vaccination is such a controversial topic and you know historically topic and you know historically um vaccines were defined at least by um vaccines were defined at least by preventing the infection and the spread. preventing the infection and the spread. Well, this is very interesting because I Well, this is very interesting because I wanted to know why. I wanted to know wanted to know why. I wanted to know when it began. And did you know that

when it began. And did you know that they used to have in the medical they used to have in the medical journals no longer the graphs? And if journals no longer the graphs? And if you look at the original graphs, the dis you look at the original graphs, the dis the infectious diseases were 3/4 the infectious diseases were 3/4 sometimes totally wiped out sometimes totally wiped out >> and then the vaccine was introduced. >> and then the vaccine was introduced. >> So what caused this massive drop? >> So what caused this massive drop? Florence Florence >> Nightingale. >> Nightingale. And what she did was she increased And what she did was she increased hygiene, sanitation and nutrition. In hygiene, sanitation and nutrition. In the 1950s, the 1950s, the sewage from London went into the the sewage from London went into the temps and the people in London drank temps and the people in London drank that water. that water. >> And you look at pictures from that time, >> And you look at pictures from that time, children sitting in gutters in sewage. children sitting in gutters in sewage. >> So no wonder the infectious diseases >> So no wonder the infectious diseases were out of control. There's no were out of control. There's no infectious diseases anymore even in the infectious diseases anymore even in the part of the population and they're part of the population and they're getting more that do not vaccinate getting more that do not vaccinate because we're not sitting in the because we're not sitting in the children aren't sitting in sewage children aren't sitting in sewage anymore anymore >> and there's a a sewage system under >> and there's a a sewage system under London London >> so that the sewage doesn't go in the

>> so that the sewage doesn't go in the temps anymore. temps anymore. That's what stopped those diseases. You That's what stopped those diseases. You know, it's it's it's fascinating that know, it's it's it's fascinating that you say that because um for years, about you say that because um for years, about 20 years, I was a mortality researcher 20 years, I was a mortality researcher and we studied um uh mortality rates and and we studied um uh mortality rates and big data on mortality. Um and I did this big data on mortality. Um and I did this for large life insurance companies. So, for large life insurance companies. So, we knew the day, the date, the time, the we knew the day, the date, the time, the location, and the cause of death for location, and the cause of death for hundreds of millions of lives. And the hundreds of millions of lives. And the truth is, the greatest jumps in life truth is, the greatest jumps in life expectancy, we had the greatest expectancy, we had the greatest expansion in life expectancy was clean expansion in life expectancy was clean water and sanitation. water and sanitation. >> That's right. Um, and once we figured >> That's right. Um, and once we figured out clean water and sanitation, do you out clean water and sanitation, do you know in the 1800s there was a famous know in the 1800s there was a famous physician that was actually jailed and physician that was actually jailed and lived the rest of his life in the same lived the rest of his life in the same asylum because he noticed a correlation asylum because he noticed a correlation between handwashing between handwashing >> and and delivering babies. >> and and delivering babies. >> That's right. That's from Vienna. >> That's right. That's from Vienna. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I I was reading that. And Florence >> I I was reading that. And Florence Nightingale, the same thing. The doctors Nightingale, the same thing. The doctors hated her

hated her >> because she made them wash their hands >> because she made them wash their hands between operations. between operations. >> Right. I mean, and now you wouldn't >> Right. I mean, and now you wouldn't think of, first of all, you would never think of, first of all, you would never do an operation bare-handed. Um, and you do an operation bare-handed. Um, and you would never do an operation without would never do an operation without >> I actually think they've gone a little >> I actually think they've gone a little bit over the top now. bit over the top now. >> Yeah. Now we too much hand sanitizer. >> Yeah. Now we too much hand sanitizer. >> When I see someone come in and wipe all >> When I see someone come in and wipe all the seat down in the plane before they the seat down in the plane before they sit in the plane. sit in the plane. >> Yeah. And and constant, you know, >> Yeah. And and constant, you know, hospitals now are actually starting to hospitals now are actually starting to take some of these hand sanitizers out. take some of these hand sanitizers out. I'm so glad to hear that because the I'm so glad to hear that because the research shows that washing your hands research shows that washing your hands with soap and water is even more with soap and water is even more effective effective >> and and killing everything. You know, we >> and and killing everything. You know, we we live in such a microbial world. we live in such a microbial world. >> We do. >> We do. >> And we're in symbiosis with a lot of >> And we're in symbiosis with a lot of these microbes. these microbes. >> We do and and we should be. And so, >> We do and and we should be. And so, anything that comes in with the kill anything that comes in with the kill mentality, anything that can kill a mentality, anything that can kill a small organism has the potential to kill small organism has the potential to kill a large. And that's what we are. There a large. And that's what we are. There are 10 times more microorganisms in the are 10 times more microorganisms in the body than cells. We have 100 trillion body than cells. We have 100 trillion cells. And there are 10 times more

cells. And there are 10 times more microorganisms in the gastrointestinal microorganisms in the gastrointestinal tract than anywhere else in the body. In tract than anywhere else in the body. In fact, Gary, my uh lecture on these fact, Gary, my uh lecture on these little microbes is one of my favorites. little microbes is one of my favorites. >> Really? Well, let's go down the micro >> Really? Well, let's go down the micro roll because, you know, somebody said to roll because, you know, somebody said to me one time, and I thought it was a me one time, and I thought it was a fascinating statement. Um, we don't eat fascinating statement. Um, we don't eat to feed ourselves. We eat to feed our to feed ourselves. We eat to feed our gut bacteria. and they eat to feed us. gut bacteria. and they eat to feed us. He said, "So remember that there's an He said, "So remember that there's an intermediary between the food that you intermediary between the food that you eat and and you and this intermediary is eat and and you and this intermediary is your gut microbiome." And so we want to your gut microbiome." And so we want to be really good to our gut microbiome. be really good to our gut microbiome. >> Oh, we do. We do. In fact, what I find >> Oh, we do. We do. In fact, what I find fascinating is that our gastrointestinal fascinating is that our gastrointestinal tract, which is about 10 m long, 10 tract, which is about 10 m long, 10 yards long. yards long. >> Yeah. 30 ft. >> Yeah. 30 ft. >> It's a hollow tube, >> It's a hollow tube, >> which means it's not really part of you >> which means it's not really part of you or me. Anything that goes in there is or me. Anything that goes in there is not part of you or me until it gets not part of you or me until it gets broken down to tiny little particles, broken down to tiny little particles, absorbed out of the gut and into the absorbed out of the gut and into the blood.

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wrote another one called uh the gut brain connection. Um I I assume you brain connection. Um I I assume you would agree with a lot of his research would agree with a lot of his research and uh it was the first time that for me and uh it was the first time that for me that someone had highlighted and that someone had highlighted and connected um the gut to so many connected um the gut to so many different mealies. different mealies. >> Oh yes, he's he's excellent that and Dr. >> Oh yes, he's he's excellent that and Dr. and Natasha Campbell McBride in her book and Natasha Campbell McBride in her book Gut and Psychology. Gut and Psychology. >> Very similar, although she goes just a >> Very similar, although she goes just a little bit further in some areas, little bit further in some areas, >> but the connection between the gut and >> but the connection between the gut and the brain is is closer than most people the brain is is closer than most people realize. So, what destroys our gut flora realize. So, what destroys our gut flora is the antibiotics. is the antibiotics. >> You see, the antibiotics, I liken drugs >> You see, the antibiotics, I liken drugs to robots. They say, "Get out of my way. to robots. They say, "Get out of my way. I got a job to do whether you need it or I got a job to do whether you need it or not." And it just comes in with this not." And it just comes in with this kill mentality. Yes, it will kill kill mentality. Yes, it will kill pathogenic bacteria, but it'll also kill pathogenic bacteria, but it'll also kill the good guys. the good guys. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I'm not against antibiotics. I think >> And I'm not against antibiotics. I think they should be saved as life saving. But

they should be saved as life saving. But I raised eight children with no I raised eight children with no antibiotics and they're all still alive, antibiotics and they're all still alive, >> right? >> right? >> And my 25 grandchildren haven't had >> And my 25 grandchildren haven't had antibiotics and they're all still alive. antibiotics and they're all still alive. >> In other words, >> In other words, >> they're probably thriving. >> they're probably thriving. >> Yes. So in other words, what So for >> Yes. So in other words, what So for instance, my little grandson treads on a instance, my little grandson treads on a rusty nail. rusty nail. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And they and they bring him to me >> And they and they bring him to me crying. So what's the first thing you crying. So what's the first thing you do? You clean him up. Just common sense. do? You clean him up. Just common sense. Then I graded a potato. Then I graded a potato. >> And I wrapped it in a little parcel, put >> And I wrapped it in a little parcel, put it on the bottom of his foot, put a it on the bottom of his foot, put a little bit of plastic on it, wrapped it, little bit of plastic on it, wrapped it, wrapped his foot in it, put in a sock, wrapped his foot in it, put in a sock, and he went off very, very happy. M and he went off very, very happy. M >> and that grated potato went on his foot >> and that grated potato went on his foot every night overnight for 3 days. every night overnight for 3 days. >> And what did the potato do is the enzyme >> And what did the potato do is the enzyme >> the potato does is it's a drawer. So it >> the potato does is it's a drawer. So it kept that wound open till it healed from kept that wound open till it healed from the inside out. the inside out. >> Whereas if a scab had formed and it had >> Whereas if a scab had formed and it had healed without healing on the outside, healed without healing on the outside, not the inside, then you've got an

not the inside, then you've got an environment where tetanus can grow. M environment where tetanus can grow. M >> and if there's an element of a horse >> and if there's an element of a horse organism in the soil, wow, we got the organism in the soil, wow, we got the perfect environment for tetanus. perfect environment for tetanus. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So what I did was that potato that just >> So what I did was that potato that just kept it open. It kept it draining and it kept it open. It kept it draining and it reduced all inflammation and it healed reduced all inflammation and it healed from the inside out. from the inside out. >> That young boy, I think he's 17 >> That young boy, I think he's 17 tomorrow. tomorrow. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And this is when he was three. He has >> And this is when he was three. He has not had any vaccines at all. not had any vaccines at all. >> No vaccines at all. And you so you >> No vaccines at all. And you so you believe in the natural infection and you believe in the natural infection and you >> well what I believe in is this >> well what I believe in is this incredible body with its inbuilt ability incredible body with its inbuilt ability to heal itself that's called the immune to heal itself that's called the immune system. system. >> And you know our front line of defense >> And you know our front line of defense is our hydrochloric acid. Further down is our hydrochloric acid. Further down our next line of defense is those our next line of defense is those microorganisms because they break down, microorganisms because they break down, they absorb, they nourish and they they absorb, they nourish and they protect the inside environment, the protect the inside environment, the blood. So that's the next line. But if

blood. So that's the next line. But if something happens to get into the blood, something happens to get into the blood, then we've got our internal army, which then we've got our internal army, which is our five different white blood cells. is our five different white blood cells. And the neutrfils, they make up about And the neutrfils, they make up about 65%. They engulf, shoot hydrochloric 65%. They engulf, shoot hydrochloric acid into the pathogen and kill it acid into the pathogen and kill it >> and then they actually die in the >> and then they actually die in the process. And if there's too much in an process. And if there's too much in an area, then it'll come out through the area, then it'll come out through the skin as pus, cuz that's what pus is. But skin as pus, cuz that's what pus is. But if it can be dealt with in the blood, if it can be dealt with in the blood, then the monocytes come along. They're then the monocytes come along. They're the cleanup team. And then there's the the cleanup team. And then there's the lymphosytes. They're always looking lymphosytes. They're always looking around saying, "Hey, neutrfils, we need around saying, "Hey, neutrfils, we need you over here." you over here." >> It's an amazing system. So that's >> It's an amazing system. So that's another one of my favorite lectures is another one of my favorite lectures is the immune system. the immune system. >> Yeah. I I mean I I would I actually was >> Yeah. I I mean I I would I actually was asked this question uh two days ago on a asked this question uh two days ago on a podcast. It was a fascinating question. podcast. It was a fascinating question. and he said if you put the the top 50 um and he said if you put the the top 50 um PhDs, MDs, uh you know uh researchers in

PhDs, MDs, uh you know uh researchers in the world in a room uh on longevity and the world in a room uh on longevity and and anti-aging, whatever your econom and anti-aging, whatever your econom calls, wellness, bio optimization, he calls, wellness, bio optimization, he said, "What one theory would do you said, "What one theory would do you think they would all agree on?" And I think they would all agree on?" And I was like, "Wow, that's a really good was like, "Wow, that's a really good question." Um and I said we probably question." Um and I said we probably would agree on the theory of immuno would agree on the theory of immuno fatigue, fatigue, a slow progressive overwhelming of the a slow progressive overwhelming of the immune system. Um as a as a broad immune system. Um as a as a broad definition for aging because we know definition for aging because we know when we're young, the immune system when we're young, the immune system spends uh a vast majority of its time spends uh a vast majority of its time policing ourselves. autophagy, cellular policing ourselves. autophagy, cellular scinessence. And as we get older, it's scinessence. And as we get older, it's distracted. Glyphosate, paraquat, uh, distracted. Glyphosate, paraquat, uh, mold spores, micotoxins, heavy metals, mold spores, micotoxins, heavy metals, parasites, viruses, you name it, right? parasites, viruses, you name it, right? We we're slowly inoculating ourselves We we're slowly inoculating ourselves with all of these unnecessary chemicals with all of these unnecessary chemicals and compounds. and the immune system is

and compounds. and the immune system is over here dealing with inflammation and over here dealing with inflammation and cytoines and histamine storm and then cytoines and histamine storm and then CTC, a circulating tumor cell slips by CTC, a circulating tumor cell slips by or some, you know, something that would or some, you know, something that would have otherwise been a walk in the park have otherwise been a walk in the park >> being dealt with. Yeah. >> being dealt with. Yeah. >> Yeah. And it's fascinating to me that if >> Yeah. And it's fascinating to me that if you took a strand of DNA from nearly you took a strand of DNA from nearly every human being that only about 60% of every human being that only about 60% of that DNA would be human. The vast that DNA would be human. The vast majority and not the vast majority, but majority and not the vast majority, but a portion of that DNA is viral. And the a portion of that DNA is viral. And the immune system's capable of silencing immune system's capable of silencing these viruses. these viruses. >> It is. >> It is. >> But every once in a while, you know, you >> But every once in a while, you know, you had mono in eighth grade and you get up had mono in eighth grade and you get up steam bar as an adult. You had chicken steam bar as an adult. You had chicken box as a child. You get shingles as an box as a child. You get shingles as an adult. adult. >> So I I want to I want to cover I'm going >> So I I want to I want to cover I'm going to come back to the microbiome, but to come back to the microbiome, but since we're on the immune system, I want since we're on the immune system, I want to talk about, you know, some of the to talk about, you know, some of the characteristics of the immune system characteristics of the immune system that people might not know about. I that people might not know about. I mean, I think we're very familiar with mean, I think we're very familiar with the fact that it defends us, the fact that it defends us, but it also polices us. but it also polices us. >> It does. It does. And the lymphosytes,

>> It does. It does. And the lymphosytes, they're made in the lymph nodes, they're made in the lymph nodes, >> whereas all the other white blood cells >> whereas all the other white blood cells are made in the bone marrow are made in the bone marrow >> and they are ever looking around. And >> and they are ever looking around. And that's why we give our body the right that's why we give our body the right conditions. We've got a we've got a conditions. We've got a we've got a police system. We've got a protective police system. We've got a protective system that can deal with all that. Mhm. system that can deal with all that. Mhm. And so how do we strengthen our immune And so how do we strengthen our immune system? system? >> That's a good question. Very good >> That's a good question. Very good question. It needs us to be well question. It needs us to be well hydrated hydrated >> and that's water. >> and that's water. >> And it needs us to go to bed ideally a >> And it needs us to go to bed ideally a couple of hours before midnight because couple of hours before midnight because that's when our batteries, our body, our that's when our batteries, our body, our immune system, our cells revive and immune system, our cells revive and recharge. healing accelerates recharge. healing accelerates >> at twice the rate in those two hours and >> at twice the rate in those two hours and about one or two after midnight. And about one or two after midnight. And that's where that's where many people that's where that's where many people are missing out. are missing out. >> And nourishment, it's like asking my >> And nourishment, it's like asking my sons, a lot of them are tradesman sons, a lot of them are tradesman builders to do an extension on my house,

builders to do an extension on my house, but I've just got the cheapest building but I've just got the cheapest building materials. materials. >> Even though they're good tradesmen, how >> Even though they're good tradesmen, how can they build without proper building can they build without proper building material? Same with our body. We need to material? Same with our body. We need to give nourishment. ideally in organic give nourishment. ideally in organic foods. Uh high fibers, great proteins, foods. Uh high fibers, great proteins, great fats. Hopefully fat phobia is out great fats. Hopefully fat phobia is out of most people's minds today. of most people's minds today. >> I thought I thought high fat caused >> I thought I thought high fat caused cardiovascular disease. cardiovascular disease. >> Oh no, that's been that's been proven >> Oh no, that's been that's been proven wrong. But probably one of my favorite wrong. But probably one of my favorite and I do it wherever I can is that cold and I do it wherever I can is that cold dunk every morning. dunk every morning. >> Really? >> Really? >> Oh yes. Oh yes. >> Oh yes. Oh yes. >> Is she really a cold plunger? Really? >> Is she really a cold plunger? Really? Your staff's behind the camera going, Your staff's behind the camera going, "Yeah, she really does it. "Yeah, she really does it. >> She does it." In fact, >> She does it." In fact, >> I call it my drug of choice. I love that >> I call it my drug of choice. I love that hormatic stress. hormatic stress. >> Jacqueline's Jacqueline's excuse is >> Jacqueline's Jacqueline's excuse is she's holding my clothes and taking the she's holding my clothes and taking the photos. photos. >> Yeah, my staff comes up with excuses, >> Yeah, my staff comes up with excuses, too. Malia in the background there. Um, too. Malia in the background there. Um, but uh I I call it my drug of choice. I

but uh I I call it my drug of choice. I actually have three cold plunges in my actually have three cold plunges in my house. I have one on the balcony so I house. I have one on the balcony so I can do it at sunrise. I have two in in can do it at sunrise. I have two in in right off of my master bedroom. But what right off of my master bedroom. But what that does is that gives a shock to the that does is that gives a shock to the body body >> and that shock it goes to the right into >> and that shock it goes to the right into the bone marrow the bone marrow >> to to boost to boost the immune system. >> to to boost to boost the immune system. That's what quick cold does. That's what quick cold does. >> You see, we're warm-blooded creatures, >> You see, we're warm-blooded creatures, so of course we don't like the cold, so of course we don't like the cold, >> right? >> right? >> One lady said, "Barbara, you say we >> One lady said, "Barbara, you say we should end every hot shower with a should end every hot shower with a >> with cold. And you also tell us that >> with cold. And you also tell us that we're to listen to our bodies. My body we're to listen to our bodies. My body says don't do it. says don't do it. >> No, that's your brain that says don't do >> No, that's your brain that says don't do it. Yeah, it. Yeah, >> that's that's your feelings. But your >> that's that's your feelings. But your reason, intellect and judgment says no, reason, intellect and judgment says no, this is good. But I say, yeah, but how this is good. But I say, yeah, but how do you feel after it? do you feel after it? >> And I remember Jack and I were in >> And I remember Jack and I were in Mryland. We found a lake and it had a Mryland. We found a lake and it had a little jetty so I could dive in. And little jetty so I could dive in. And this morning it was white with frost on

this morning it was white with frost on the ground. the ground. >> So I dived in, swam around, came out. >> So I dived in, swam around, came out. Yes. got my nice warm woolen clothes on. Yes. got my nice warm woolen clothes on. So, I've got instant warmth. And as I'm So, I've got instant warmth. And as I'm walking away, walking away, >> I feel like I've had an injection of >> I feel like I've had an injection of power. Now, I'm sure you can identify power. Now, I'm sure you can identify with that because the body's reaction is with that because the body's reaction is whoa. whoa. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's like because we're warm-blooded >> It's like because we're warm-blooded creatures, when we do that cold plunge, creatures, when we do that cold plunge, the body says, "Move." the body says, "Move." >> It's cold. >> It's cold. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, we access that cold shot, >> So, we access that cold shot, >> right? Whereas remember the sad story of >> right? Whereas remember the sad story of the Titanic, most of them died because the Titanic, most of them died because in that freezing cold water, their body in that freezing cold water, their body just stopped. just stopped. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It just stopped. >> It just stopped. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> They put their head down and slept. That >> They put their head down and slept. That just stopped. just stopped. >> And so the body knows that cold is >> And so the body knows that cold is potentially a killer. potentially a killer. >> And so when we get that quick cold, >> And so when we get that quick cold, there's there's >> Yes. >> Yes. >> There's this reaction. And so that's >> There's this reaction. And so that's what the hydrotherapist

what the hydrotherapist uses is that reaction. uses is that reaction. >> Yeah. You know, I like I say, I call it >> Yeah. You know, I like I say, I call it my drug of choice. I have a little my drug of choice. I have a little saying that aging is the aggressive saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. You know, because pursuit of comfort. You know, because the more aggressively we pursue comfort, the more aggressively we pursue comfort, we're we're we're creatures of comfort. we're we're we're creatures of comfort. You know, we regulate our body, our air You know, we regulate our body, our air temperature, we regulate our lighting, temperature, we regulate our lighting, you know, we temperatures in our car. So you know, we temperatures in our car. So you you walk into my room in the you you walk into my room in the Pullman. I've actually found a way that Pullman. I've actually found a way that I open this window and open that window I open this window and open that window and it's cool. I've got fresh air coming and it's cool. I've got fresh air coming in. I'd rather have fresh air and put my in. I'd rather have fresh air and put my woolly jumper on. woolly jumper on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Than to be in this this stuffy stifling >> Than to be in this this stuffy stifling warm environment. warm environment. >> So So back to the immune system because >> So So back to the immune system because um you know if you look at the category um you know if you look at the category of autoimmune disease, right? where uh of autoimmune disease, right? where uh we essentially assume that somebody woke we essentially assume that somebody woke up one morning and the immune system up one morning and the immune system just went haywire for no reason just went haywire for no reason >> and the body just started eating itself. >> and the body just started eating itself. It does make no sense to me. It does make no sense to me. >> It makes no sense to me either. I'm glad

>> It makes no sense to me either. I'm glad you say that cuz I don't believe we just you say that cuz I don't believe we just woke up one morning and it's attacking woke up one morning and it's attacking the colon. You have Crohn's and it's the colon. You have Crohn's and it's attacking the lacrial gland. You have attacking the lacrial gland. You have sugar and it's attacking the thyroid and sugar and it's attacking the thyroid and now you have Hashimoto's. now you have Hashimoto's. >> Now, my husband doesn't like it when I >> Now, my husband doesn't like it when I say this. He's my biggest critique and say this. He's my biggest critique and it's good. If I pass him, I'll pass it's good. If I pass him, I'll pass anyone. anyone. >> Yeah. I don't believe in autoimmune >> Yeah. I don't believe in autoimmune diseases. diseases. >> He said that's a very challenging >> He said that's a very challenging statement and maybe I want it to be. statement and maybe I want it to be. >> I I agree and I acknowledge that people >> I I agree and I acknowledge that people have the symptoms have the symptoms >> but we have seen people heal from all >> but we have seen people heal from all the autoimmune diseases that you might the autoimmune diseases that you might uh mention to me. uh mention to me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So how can it be an autoimmune disease? >> So how can it be an autoimmune disease? >> And and also what if if this entire >> And and also what if if this entire category of diseases is idiopathic, category of diseases is idiopathic, right? It's of unknown origin. So if we right? It's of unknown origin. So if we don't know the origin, how are we don't know the origin, how are we certain of the disease? certain of the disease? >> Here's a good one. Fibromyalgia. >> Here's a good one. Fibromyalgia. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Google that fibromyalgia. >> Google that fibromyalgia. No known cause, no known cure.

No known cause, no known cure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Chronic fatigue syndrome. No known >> Chronic fatigue syndrome. No known cause, no known cure. Um, and I think cause, no known cure. Um, and I think that the same is true with the vast that the same is true with the vast majority of autoimmune disease. And and majority of autoimmune disease. And and lately I've been fascinated with this lately I've been fascinated with this because we know that the immune system because we know that the immune system is hypervigilant and um it's it's is hypervigilant and um it's it's actually the be it's the special forces, actually the be it's the special forces, right? right? >> It is it's the uh Yeah. It's the it's >> It is it's the uh Yeah. It's the it's the elite team. the elite team. >> Yeah. Yeah. It was if it was in the US >> Yeah. Yeah. It was if it was in the US it'd be sealed team six, right? So So it'd be sealed team six, right? So So you know what? First of all, the immune you know what? First of all, the immune system has to be called to a location. system has to be called to a location. It doesn't just show up for no reason. It doesn't just show up for no reason. >> That's right. The lymphosytes are the >> That's right. The lymphosytes are the calling guys. And so something called it calling guys. And so something called it and usually it's there because it's and usually it's there because it's after something. Well, maybe it's a after something. Well, maybe it's a heavy metal, maybe it's a mold spore, heavy metal, maybe it's a mold spore, maybe it's a miccotoxin, maybe it is a maybe it's a miccotoxin, maybe it is a bacteria, a virus, some other kind of bacteria, a virus, some other kind of pathogen that's in an area where it pathogen that's in an area where it shouldn't be. shouldn't be. >> And so the immune system properly calls >> And so the immune system properly calls it there. I always use the analogy that it there. I always use the analogy that if somebody robbed the bank down the

if somebody robbed the bank down the street and ran into our VBO or Airbnb street and ran into our VBO or Airbnb here and barricaded themselves in here, here and barricaded themselves in here, the police would bust down the door to the police would bust down the door to get to the perpetrator. And the immune get to the perpetrator. And the immune system will bust down doors to go after system will bust down doors to go after pathogens, pathogens, >> right? It goes after perpetrators. >> right? It goes after perpetrators. >> And so, how do um people go about >> And so, how do um people go about strengthening the immune system? because strengthening the immune system? because I think it's this sort of nebulous we I think it's this sort of nebulous we all know we have one we don't know how all know we have one we don't know how to cater to it. to cater to it. >> It is in fact when I when I give my my >> It is in fact when I when I give my my class on the immune system I say to class on the immune system I say to people if someone asked you what your people if someone asked you what your immune system was immune system was >> what would you say >> what would you say >> and I think a lot of people they don't >> and I think a lot of people they don't really know. So when I speak on it I really know. So when I speak on it I start with the skin. It's our front line start with the skin. It's our front line of defense and then the gut and and then of defense and then the gut and and then into the blood where I think what most into the blood where I think what most people recognize as the immune system is people recognize as the immune system is the the white blood cells. the the white blood cells. >> And I agree that there's a reason and >> And I agree that there's a reason and Newton's third law of motion we must

Newton's third law of motion we must remember Sir Isaac Newton remember Sir Isaac Newton that uh to every action there's always that uh to every action there's always an equal and an opposite reaction. We an equal and an opposite reaction. We must discover why. And it could be must discover why. And it could be mentally, it could be emotional, it mentally, it could be emotional, it could be spiritual, it could be could be spiritual, it could be physical. There could be a whole lot of physical. There could be a whole lot of things. things. >> And I like to see myself as a private >> And I like to see myself as a private investigator. investigator. >> I like investigating why these things >> I like investigating why these things are so. So, how do I find out? I talk to are so. So, how do I find out? I talk to the person. the person. >> I get their history and I and if they >> I get their history and I and if they say, "I had a fall. What was that for? say, "I had a fall. What was that for? What was hurt? What did you do? What was What was hurt? What did you do? What was done?" you know, I want to know because done?" you know, I want to know because there's always a reason. there's always a reason. >> And so if they're on this journey where >> And so if they're on this journey where they feel they have a weakened immune they feel they have a weakened immune system, I get colds all the time, I get system, I get colds all the time, I get flu very often, um I have a lot of flu very often, um I have a lot of congestion, you know, runny nose, I have congestion, you know, runny nose, I have blocked sinuses, I have the signs and blocked sinuses, I have the signs and symptoms that, you know, my immune symptoms that, you know, my immune system is doing its job, but it's not

system is doing its job, but it's not doing it well, right? Um doing it well, right? Um where did they start? What are what are where did they start? What are what are great things for the immune system? great things for the immune system? >> What I'd like to suggest is that the >> What I'd like to suggest is that the immune system is doing its job. But why immune system is doing its job. But why is it doing all that? So when I look at is it doing all that? So when I look at respiratory stuffy nose, tonitis, sinus, respiratory stuffy nose, tonitis, sinus, uh post-nasal drip, they call it uh post-nasal drip, they call it coughing up mucus. coughing up mucus. >> Why? Why? So that excess mucus has been >> Why? Why? So that excess mucus has been produced for a reason. And maybe it's produced for a reason. And maybe it's irritated with micotoxins. Maybe it's irritated with micotoxins. Maybe it's irritated with uh chemicals. irritated with uh chemicals. >> Maybe an allergy to certain foods. >> Maybe an allergy to certain foods. >> And my most common allergens are dairy. >> And my most common allergens are dairy. And the milk in the supermarket is very And the milk in the supermarket is very different to the milk coming out of different to the milk coming out of Label the cow on an organic farm. Label the cow on an organic farm. >> Label. >> Label. >> And >> And >> Label sounds like a cow's name. Um >> Label sounds like a cow's name. Um >> and and people say, "What milk do you >> and and people say, "What milk do you drink?" I say, "I'm wind. I ate food."

drink?" I say, "I'm wind. I ate food." >> Okay. Next one is wheat. and um Pulmada >> Okay. Next one is wheat. and um Pulmada in his book he talks about the uh the in his book he talks about the uh the hybridization of the the wheat and how hybridization of the the wheat and how it's changed the starch structure the it's changed the starch structure the the um the gluten and the protein the um the gluten and the protein structure. So the body in some structure. So the body in some compromised compromised uh individuals it reacts to that and it uh individuals it reacts to that and it can react with this excess mucus. Uh Dr. can react with this excess mucus. Uh Dr. William Davis in his book Wheat Belly, William Davis in his book Wheat Belly, he gives a very good background to what he gives a very good background to what they did to the wheat. they did to the wheat. >> And this is genetically modified, >> And this is genetically modified, >> heavily sprayed. >> heavily sprayed. >> Yeah. The glyphosates come in as well. >> Yeah. The glyphosates come in as well. And also oats. And then and then of And also oats. And then and then of course now I'm in the UK. Uh isn't that course now I'm in the UK. Uh isn't that touching something very holy? touching something very holy? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The oats. Well, oats are very high in >> The oats. Well, oats are very high in lectins. And when lectins get into the lectins. And when lectins get into the blood, they increase inflammation. Now blood, they increase inflammation. Now if the gut flora is healthy it will if the gut flora is healthy it will disarm the lectins but there's so many disarm the lectins but there's so many unhealthy gut floras because of

unhealthy gut floras because of antibiotics because of many medications antibiotics because of many medications slaughter that gut flora slaughter that gut flora >> and peanuts are commonly contaminated >> and peanuts are commonly contaminated with mold. And the fifth one is refined with mold. And the fifth one is refined sugar. It's like kerosene to a fire. sugar. It's like kerosene to a fire. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So if someone has excess mucus all the >> So if someone has excess mucus all the time I say stop the five allergens. time I say stop the five allergens. >> There's lots of alternatives today to >> There's lots of alternatives today to those five. go through the five again. those five. go through the five again. >> So, we got dairy, wheat, oats, peanuts, >> So, we got dairy, wheat, oats, peanuts, refined sugar. refined sugar. >> Now, it can take at least 2 months >> Now, it can take at least 2 months before you see a result cuz you can have before you see a result cuz you can have a slice of bread, it'll be out of your a slice of bread, it'll be out of your body in 24 hours, but the effect can body in 24 hours, but the effect can remain remain >> sometimes for even more than two months. >> sometimes for even more than two months. So, I say write a note on the calendar, So, I say write a note on the calendar, fill your cupboard, don't do it until fill your cupboard, don't do it until your cupboard's well stocked, your cupboard's well stocked, >> right? and you know the alternatives >> right? and you know the alternatives that you can do. But we've seen many that you can do. But we've seen many people able to clear up all of these people able to clear up all of these congestion things by just stopping that congestion things by just stopping that because because uh there's a reason why there's excess uh there's a reason why there's excess mucus. There's a reason why there's this

mucus. There's a reason why there's this there's excess clogging up in the sinus. there's excess clogging up in the sinus. There's a there's a whole lot of There's a there's a whole lot of reasons. So, it's investigating. reasons. So, it's investigating. >> I I think that's a great that's a great >> I I think that's a great that's a great point. And and you know when we talk point. And and you know when we talk about the immune system, we have to talk about the immune system, we have to talk about the microbiome, right? Because the about the microbiome, right? Because the vast majority of our immune system is vast majority of our immune system is right here in our gut. right here in our gut. >> Well, it is estimated that 70% of our >> Well, it is estimated that 70% of our immune system is established by our gut immune system is established by our gut >> flora. >> flora. >> But what I find interesting is I think >> But what I find interesting is I think most people are familiar with probiotic most people are familiar with probiotic probiotic foods. Sauerkraut, kea, miso, probiotic foods. Sauerkraut, kea, miso, um kombucha, um kombucha, kamchoy. kamchoy. >> Yeah, I eat a lot of kimchi. I got it in >> Yeah, I eat a lot of kimchi. I got it in the fridge in there. the fridge in there. >> Yeah. So, they're they're great at uh >> Yeah. So, they're they're great at uh boosting your gut flora, but what I find boosting your gut flora, but what I find interesting as well is what feeds the interesting as well is what feeds the gut flora is fiber. gut flora is fiber. >> The prebiotics. >> The prebiotics. >> They're the prebiotics. So, you can have >> They're the prebiotics. So, you can have 10 different apples and each apple will 10 different apples and each apple will feed a different microorganism. feed a different microorganism. >> So, I suggest people have at least seven

>> So, I suggest people have at least seven different fibers in their meal. different fibers in their meal. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And of course, the fibers coming from >> And of course, the fibers coming from your plant foods. And I was at a uh I your plant foods. And I was at a uh I was in Andalooa at a homeschool camp was in Andalooa at a homeschool camp >> and I was teaching them about prebiotics >> and I was teaching them about prebiotics and probiotics and and probiotics and >> northern part of southern Spain. >> northern part of southern Spain. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And >> And in the morning I said, "Okay, kids, how in the morning I said, "Okay, kids, how many did you have this morning?" many did you have this morning?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And one little boy said, "20." >> And one little boy said, "20." >> And I looked at his father and his >> And I looked at his father and his father went, father went, >> "Yeah." >> "Yeah." >> So he must have had a raspberry and a >> So he must have had a raspberry and a blackberry and a blueberry. Right. blackberry and a blueberry. Right. >> He must have >> He must have >> good for him. >> good for him. >> And a sunflower seed and a sesame seed >> And a sunflower seed and a sesame seed and a flax, you know, but uh just to and a flax, you know, but uh just to show them if they can have more variety show them if they can have more variety in their fiber, they will have more in their fiber, they will have more variety in their microbiome. variety in their microbiome. >> Now, as a plant-based lady, I push for >> Now, as a plant-based lady, I push for legumes or protein.

legumes or protein. >> And then the complaint comes back, >> And then the complaint comes back, bloating, right? bloating, right? >> So I say, are they well soaked? Are they >> So I say, are they well soaked? Are they well rinsed? Are they well cooked? Yes. well rinsed? Are they well cooked? Yes. So I give the story of my husband when So I give the story of my husband when we married 28 years ago. He said, "I can we married 28 years ago. He said, "I can have red lentils, not brown lentils." So have red lentils, not brown lentils." So immediately I go, "Aha, brown lentils." immediately I go, "Aha, brown lentils." So what I did was I gave him a teaspoon. So what I did was I gave him a teaspoon. >> A week later, two teaspoons. A week >> A week later, two teaspoons. A week later, three teaspoons. And now he can later, three teaspoons. And now he can eat brown lentils. M eat brown lentils. M >> so what I did was I was feeding the >> so what I did was I was feeding the microbiome for brown lentil microbiome for brown lentil >> little by little by little >> little by little by little >> and allowing that flora too. >> and allowing that flora too. >> That's right. Because a lot of people I >> That's right. Because a lot of people I find are so absolute. Can't eat this, find are so absolute. Can't eat this, can't eat that. Well, let's let's look can't eat that. Well, let's let's look at the way you're preparing it. Well, at the way you're preparing it. Well, bring it back. One lady said even a bring it back. One lady said even a teaspoon. I said, well, try three teaspoon. I said, well, try three lentils. lentils. >> Right? >> Right? >> And a week later, try four. >> And a week later, try four. >> Right? >> Right? >> A week later, try five. >> A week later, try five. and slowly rebuild that gut microbiome.

and slowly rebuild that gut microbiome. >> So the >> So the >> the gut microbiome is directly linked to >> the gut microbiome is directly linked to our the strength of our immune system. our the strength of our immune system. >> So any discussion about strengthening >> So any discussion about strengthening the immune system has to start in in the the immune system has to start in in the gut. So if people are listening to this gut. So if people are listening to this podcast and they want to go on this podcast and they want to go on this journey and they believe food is journey and they believe food is medicine, which I think we all do, um medicine, which I think we all do, um then adding more prebiotic fi fibers, then adding more prebiotic fi fibers, things like kimchi, sauerkraut, things like kimchi, sauerkraut, fermented veggies, I my gut feels the fermented veggies, I my gut feels the best when I do that. best when I do that. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um I do eat grass-fed meats. Um and I >> Um I do eat grass-fed meats. Um and I usually eat them with fermented um usually eat them with fermented um vegetables. I notice that when I don't vegetables. I notice that when I don't eat the grass-fed or wild caught eat the grass-fed or wild caught versions of of fish and I and I don't versions of of fish and I and I don't eat the fermented vegetables, even my eat the fermented vegetables, even my gut starts to gut starts to >> starts to go ary. But if I stay in that >> starts to go ary. But if I stay in that zone, zone, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> um then it helps. It helps tremendously. >> um then it helps. It helps tremendously. >> Now, what you're doing, Gary, is you're >> Now, what you're doing, Gary, is you're listening.

listening. >> And that's what I find very hard to >> And that's what I find very hard to teach people to do. M teach people to do. M >> listen so I can advise but your body >> listen so I can advise but your body will tell you what you can and can't do will tell you what you can and can't do >> and a lot of people are challenged by >> and a lot of people are challenged by that. I say no your body can tell you that. I say no your body can tell you what no man can tell you. what no man can tell you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Your body can tell you what no test can >> Your body can tell you what no test can tell you. tell you. >> Just listen. M. So, when we're listening >> Just listen. M. So, when we're listening to our bodies, um, do you recommend that to our bodies, um, do you recommend that that everyone migrate to a plant-based that everyone migrate to a plant-based diet or do you find that there's any diet or do you find that there's any role for wild caught fish, uh, grass-fed role for wild caught fish, uh, grass-fed meats, pasture-raised? meats, pasture-raised? >> The healthiest couple that attended our >> The healthiest couple that attended our health retreat in Australia were organic health retreat in Australia were organic dairy farmers, organic meat farmers. dairy farmers, organic meat farmers. >> They ate all organic. >> They ate all organic. >> How did they get your uh, tag of the >> How did they get your uh, tag of the healthiest couple? I want to my wife and healthiest couple? I want to my wife and I would like to apply for that. I would like to apply for that. >> Well, >> Well, well, they're in they're in their

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>> "Yeah, you should be on the stage." >> They said, "Where else can we get such >> They said, "Where else can we get such good food good food >> and such great accommodation? No >> and such great accommodation? No chemicals in this retreat. Beautiful chemicals in this retreat. Beautiful linen sheets with feather quilts. linen sheets with feather quilts. >> Yeah. uh steam bath by the by the creek >> Yeah. uh steam bath by the by the creek every afternoon doing cold plunges. I every afternoon doing cold plunges. I love it. love it. >> They said, "Where else can we this is >> They said, "Where else can we this is the best holiday?" the best holiday?" >> But that said, I ate plants. >> But that said, I ate plants. >> I ate plants because that does very well >> I ate plants because that does very well with me. But I give you that story to with me. But I give you that story to acknowledge that some people acknowledge that some people >> um if they choose to do that and it >> um if they choose to do that and it works well, go for it. But at our works well, go for it. But at our retreat, we just do plants. retreat, we just do plants. >> No, I do well on plants, too. Um I I you >> No, I do well on plants, too. Um I I you know I prefer um meats. I'm pretty know I prefer um meats. I'm pretty judicious about the meats that I eat. judicious about the meats that I eat. But I do notice that when I eat I don't But I do notice that when I eat I don't eat nitrite so I don't eat any pork. Um eat nitrite so I don't eat any pork. Um but um but I notice that when I when I but um but I notice that when I when I marginally gravitate from that my body marginally gravitate from that my body does signal.

does signal. >> Yes it does it it does speak. Do you >> Yes it does it it does speak. Do you know also when your body's working well know also when your body's working well and why would it be working well? Purely and why would it be working well? Purely because we give our body the right because we give our body the right conditions. It's designed to heal. It conditions. It's designed to heal. It will heal. It will function and be will heal. It will function and be maintained when we give it the right maintained when we give it the right conditions. That's what I'll be talking conditions. That's what I'll be talking on tomorrow afternoon. Keeping it very on tomorrow afternoon. Keeping it very simple. simple. >> And when your body is working well, it >> And when your body is working well, it tells you quickly. In fact, I can tell tells you quickly. In fact, I can tell when it's in my mouth. when it's in my mouth. >> Yeah. The coating on your tongue kind >> Yeah. The coating on your tongue kind of. of. >> Oh, it just it just says to me. I had a >> Oh, it just it just says to me. I had a Brazil nut the other day and immediately Brazil nut the other day and immediately I thought this is not good. So I just I thought this is not good. So I just very politely remove it. very politely remove it. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, that's really good to tune. I mean, I that's really good to tune. I mean, I think the one big takeaway so far is think the one big takeaway so far is just tune in to your body. just tune in to your body. >> Tune into your body. Start listening. >> Tune into your body. Start listening. And when I was in Peru last year, uh, And when I was in Peru last year, uh, another woman spoke at this convention I another woman spoke at this convention I was at. She was a young woman. She would was at. She was a young woman. She would have been 40. She said, "I grew up in

have been 40. She said, "I grew up in Peru, but I went to New York. I got my Peru, but I went to New York. I got my degree. I was a high-flyier CEO of a big degree. I was a high-flyier CEO of a big company. And I got sicker and sicker and company. And I got sicker and sicker and sicker cuz she's just eating junk. So sicker cuz she's just eating junk. So she went back to Peru she went back to Peru >> and her mother took her to a healer. And >> and her mother took her to a healer. And the healer said, "How do you feel when the healer said, "How do you feel when you eat that food?" She said, "I don't you eat that food?" She said, "I don't know." know." >> And she said that she almost felt >> And she said that she almost felt embarrassed that she had said that. She embarrassed that she had said that. She didn't know how she felt. didn't know how she felt. >> And I think Gary, that would be that >> And I think Gary, that would be that would be the same with many people would be the same with many people today. How do you feel after that meal? today. How do you feel after that meal? I don't know. I don't know. Listen, Listen, >> it's a good point. >> it's a good point. >> Listen, do you feel fantastic? >> Listen, do you feel fantastic? >> Do you feel like you're ready to climb a >> Do you feel like you're ready to climb a mountain now or do you feel Oh, mountain now or do you feel Oh, >> no. You know, I I I I wanted just to go >> no. You know, I I I I wanted just to go back and touch on the vaccines for a back and touch on the vaccines for a moment. It's such a controversial topic moment. It's such a controversial topic and I don't know why it's so and I don't know why it's so controversial. You know, one of the controversial. You know, one of the things that I really like that Bobby things that I really like that Bobby Kennedy is trying to do in the US is not

Kennedy is trying to do in the US is not to ban vaccines, but to say, shouldn't to ban vaccines, but to say, shouldn't we be curious about the same level of we be curious about the same level of rigorous research that we apply to other rigorous research that we apply to other compounds? Why would we just not apply compounds? Why would we just not apply them to vaccines? Forget all of the them to vaccines? Forget all of the other political nonsense that goes on, other political nonsense that goes on, you know, uh, vaccine indemnities and no you know, uh, vaccine indemnities and no responsibility for harm and that these responsibility for harm and that these companies don't have fiduciaries to the companies don't have fiduciaries to the patient, they have fiduciaries to patient, they have fiduciaries to investors, which I think is part of the investors, which I think is part of the reason why the whole system is lopsided. reason why the whole system is lopsided. >> It's pretty bad. >> It's pretty bad. >> Yeah. Um but you really think in today's >> Yeah. Um but you really think in today's day and age that an infant born today day and age that an infant born today can survive and live a long healthy can survive and live a long healthy happy life without any vaccinations. happy life without any vaccinations. >> They will live a long healthy happy life >> They will live a long healthy happy life because they don't have them. because they don't have them. >> And if a if a um a parent says to me, >> And if a if a um a parent says to me, should I vaccinate? I say to them, "I'm should I vaccinate? I say to them, "I'm not going to tell you what to do,

not going to tell you what to do, >> but I'll tell you what I would do. I >> but I'll tell you what I would do. I would go to the pharmacist and I would would go to the pharmacist and I would get a print out of what's in the get a print out of what's in the vaccines." vaccines." >> Or Google Dr. Sherry Tenpenney. >> Or Google Dr. Sherry Tenpenney. >> Sherry >> Sherry >> Tenpen Penney. >> Tenpen Penney. >> Ten Penney. >> Ten Penney. >> And she she's a American doctor who's >> And she she's a American doctor who's really stood up and and blown the really stood up and and blown the whistle on how dangerous the vaccines whistle on how dangerous the vaccines are. and she goes into great detail in are. and she goes into great detail in what is every single vaccine and what is every single vaccine and >> you know aborted cow fetuses. Anyway, >> you know aborted cow fetuses. Anyway, it's it's it's pretty nasty. it's it's it's pretty nasty. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> That's beside the neurotoxins. >> That's beside the neurotoxins. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> She doesn't call it the childhood >> She doesn't call it the childhood vaccination program. She calls it the vaccination program. She calls it the childhood poisoning program. childhood poisoning program. >> So, if you really want to know what's in >> So, if you really want to know what's in them, you can search her out and have a them, you can search her out and have a look. She's just saying what it is. look. She's just saying what it is. >> Mhm. and she's a medical doctor and she >> Mhm. and she's a medical doctor and she was confronted when she started to see was confronted when she started to see children being damaged by the vaccines.

children being damaged by the vaccines. But if the person's still unsure, I say, But if the person's still unsure, I say, "Well, take a piece of paper to the "Well, take a piece of paper to the person who will administer the vaccine person who will administer the vaccine and ask them to sign it that they will and ask them to sign it that they will be accountable if the child has any side be accountable if the child has any side effect." No parent would vaccinate effect." No parent would vaccinate >> if they did those two things >> if they did those two things >> because the vaccines are not safe. >> because the vaccines are not safe. They're far from safe. And when you They're far from safe. And when you realize that historically it was realize that historically it was Florence Nightingale increasing hygiene, Florence Nightingale increasing hygiene, sanitation, and nutrition uh that sanitation, and nutrition uh that stopped these childhood uh infectious stopped these childhood uh infectious diseases. diseases. >> Yeah. And you know, I I have a hard time >> Yeah. And you know, I I have a hard time believing that we need 79 believing that we need 79 vaccines. vaccines. >> No. before you're you're 18 years old in >> No. before you're you're 18 years old in order to just order to just >> exist in the world. Um >> exist in the world. Um >> that that's a total denial that our body >> that that's a total denial that our body can heal itself can heal itself >> because it can. It was created to heal. >> because it can. It was created to heal. It's been doing it for a long long time.

It's been doing it for a long long time. And I have faith in this body and its And I have faith in this body and its ability to heal. That's why when I got ability to heal. That's why when I got co a double vaxed man brought it to our co a double vaxed man brought it to our retreat. retreat. >> Yeah. a double vac. >> Yeah. a double vac. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Anyway, Anyway, >> I thought you were not supposed to get >> I thought you were not supposed to get COVID or or spread COVID. That's COVID or or spread COVID. That's >> Michael got it first. Then we live way >> Michael got it first. Then we live way out in the bush. We're an hour from the out in the bush. We're an hour from the town on 450 acres. town on 450 acres. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So, when I got it, I the first 24 hours >> So, when I got it, I the first 24 hours I had a terrible migraine, so I just I had a terrible migraine, so I just went to bed. And the next 48 hours I had went to bed. And the next 48 hours I had a high fever. I never take my a high fever. I never take my temperature. I know I've got a fever. temperature. I know I've got a fever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And people say, "What did you do?" who I >> And people say, "What did you do?" who I said nothing said nothing >> cuz I live in a body that can heal. I >> cuz I live in a body that can heal. I laid my body on nature's operating laid my body on nature's operating table. It's called bed. table. It's called bed. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I slept a lot. >> I slept a lot. >> And when I got a little bit too hot, I >> And when I got a little bit too hot, I would I would douse myself with water. would I would douse myself with water. Water puts the fire out and I drank a

Water puts the fire out and I drank a lot of water. lot of water. >> And I had not a hot shower, not a cold, >> And I had not a hot shower, not a cold, a teepid shower. If I was near the a teepid shower. If I was near the creek, I would have just dived in. But creek, I would have just dived in. But it was a 5minute walk. When you got a it was a 5minute walk. When you got a fever, you don't want to walk. fever, you don't want to walk. >> Crampy. So, you didn't do that. >> Crampy. So, you didn't do that. >> You don't want to walk. And on the >> You don't want to walk. And on the fourth day, I opened my eyes. I felt fourth day, I opened my eyes. I felt great. I had no fever. See, I love great. I had no fever. See, I love fevers because what they do is they give fevers because what they do is they give an incredible boost to your immune an incredible boost to your immune system. system. >> And they also kill off harmful >> And they also kill off harmful pathogens. See, God put fevers in the pathogens. See, God put fevers in the body for a purpose. body for a purpose. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, that's what I say to mothers. My >> So, that's what I say to mothers. My child's got a fever. I say it's child's got a fever. I say it's wonderful. wonderful. >> Yeah, his immune system's working >> Yeah, his immune system's working >> and it'll be working even better after >> and it'll be working even better after that fever because that fever fever that fever because that fever fever reaches right into the bone marrow where reaches right into the bone marrow where our immune system is made. our immune system is made. >> But just keep that baby well hydrated. >> But just keep that baby well hydrated. >> And if they're as long as they're taking >> And if they're as long as they're taking in fluids, then in fluids, then >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Just let them let them ride it out. >> Just let them let them ride it out. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. You know, I I think that if we I

>> Yeah. You know, I I think that if we I said this before the podcast, but if we said this before the podcast, but if we would get back to what God gave us, less would get back to what God gave us, less of what man makes us. of what man makes us. >> Oh, yes. >> Oh, yes. >> Um just as a general rule of thumb. >> Um just as a general rule of thumb. >> Oh, yeah. you know, whole food diet, um, >> Oh, yeah. you know, whole food diet, um, mobility, you know, exercise, purpose, mobility, you know, exercise, purpose, connection, nature. You know, I I have connection, nature. You know, I I have this home in Miami, which, um, uh, we this home in Miami, which, um, uh, we live in this condo in Miami, and it's live in this condo in Miami, and it's got every biohacking device you can got every biohacking device you can imagine. So, I don't have a watch imagine. So, I don't have a watch problem or a car problem. I have a problem or a car problem. I have a biohacking problem. Um, and it's a real biohacking problem. Um, and it's a real problem. Like, if there was a biohacking problem. Like, if there was a biohacking rehab, I would probably check myself in. rehab, I would probably check myself in. Um, you know, so hyperaric chambers and Um, you know, so hyperaric chambers and red light and PMF, but we also have a uh red light and PMF, but we also have a uh we have a one-bedroom log cabin in we have a one-bedroom log cabin in Colorado off the grid. Colorado off the grid. >> Um, it has solarfed electricity, >> Um, it has solarfed electricity, glacierfed spring water, well, and glacierfed spring water, well, and septic. I drink the water right out of septic. I drink the water right out of the well. the well. >> Um, and I'll wake up there and I put on >> Um, and I'll wake up there and I put on this 20 lb rucks sack and I have this

this 20 lb rucks sack and I have this three and a half mile loop in the woods. three and a half mile loop in the woods. >> When I get back from that loop, I feel >> When I get back from that loop, I feel like I took a limitless pill. like I took a limitless pill. >> Oh yeah. like I won the lottery. And I >> Oh yeah. like I won the lottery. And I say it all the time. And um say it all the time. And um >> and I and I hope you dive into the Coal >> and I and I hope you dive into the Coal Creek after that. Creek after that. >> I do. I bought I since I since I don't >> I do. I bought I since I since I don't have a cold plunge, I I bought a $165 have a cold plunge, I I bought a $165 cattle trough from Tractor Supply. It's cattle trough from Tractor Supply. It's an aluminum. It's an aluminum cattle an aluminum. It's an aluminum cattle trough. And the water comes out of the trough. And the water comes out of the glacier about 43 44 degrees. glacier about 43 44 degrees. >> Yeah. So I I fill it with the glacier >> Yeah. So I I fill it with the glacier water and then I just jump right in water and then I just jump right in there and I look out at the meadow. But there and I look out at the meadow. But don't you think it's the most wonderful don't you think it's the most wonderful feeling when you are so hot and sweaty feeling when you are so hot and sweaty >> to dive into that cold plunge? It's just >> to dive into that cold plunge? It's just incredible. incredible. >> And then I go, my wife hates this part, >> And then I go, my wife hates this part, but then I go back in the house and I'm but then I go back in the house and I'm like Captain Chatty because I think it's like Captain Chatty because I think it's all the dopamine and norepinephrine and all the dopamine and norepinephrine and I want to just talk to somebody. She's I want to just talk to somebody. She's the only one available. So I just the only one available. So I just >> I say to people, I say, "Forget the >> I say to people, I say, "Forget the coffee." coffee." >> Yeah. Oh no, you don't need any coffee.

>> Yeah. Oh no, you don't need any coffee. I call it my drug of choice because I call it my drug of choice because nothing makes me feel better for longer. nothing makes me feel better for longer. >> I totally agree. Yeah, I totally agree. >> I totally agree. Yeah, I totally agree. And you get addicted to it because you And you get addicted to it because you feel so good. feel so good. >> Yeah. Yeah. We never we never want to >> Yeah. Yeah. We never we never want to leave there and it's it always just leave there and it's it always just reminds me that, you know, it's just reminds me that, you know, it's just back to those back to those >> so nice. You've got that place. >> so nice. You've got that place. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's our It's definitely our >> Yeah. Yeah. It's our It's definitely our happy place. We spent almost three happy place. We spent almost three months there this summer. And sometimes months there this summer. And sometimes when I go back to Miami, it almost seems when I go back to Miami, it almost seems a little surreal, you know, concrete a little surreal, you know, concrete jungle. I remember actually one time I jungle. I remember actually one time I was I took my family on a 10-day uh was I took my family on a 10-day uh extreme vacation to Costa Rica. So, we extreme vacation to Costa Rica. So, we went to Costa Rica and every day we did went to Costa Rica and every day we did something else. We canered, we did something else. We canered, we did whitewater rafting, we did ziplining, we whitewater rafting, we did ziplining, we did all this stuff and I literally woke did all this stuff and I literally woke up uh in the jungle, this place called up uh in the jungle, this place called the Pakori Lodge. Beautiful, by the way, the Pakori Lodge. Beautiful, by the way, if you ever go to Costa Rica. And um and if you ever go to Costa Rica. And um and but I had an uh an event that evening in but I had an uh an event that evening in Miami. So, I took like a 4:30 a.m. Miami. So, I took like a 4:30 a.m. shuttle to the airport. I flew to Miami. shuttle to the airport. I flew to Miami. I got off. It was at a nightclub called

I got off. It was at a nightclub called Live Nightclub in Miami. So I woke up in Live Nightclub in Miami. So I woke up in the jungle and that afternoon I walked the jungle and that afternoon I walked into this nightclub dur that was set up into this nightclub dur that was set up for this lecture and I go for this lecture and I go >> this is all >> this is all >> It just felt it felt so surreal like I >> It just felt it felt so surreal like I wanted to go back to the jungle. wanted to go back to the jungle. >> You're on another planet. >> You're on another planet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And it just I mean the cars going >> Yeah. And it just I mean the cars going by and the beeping and the honking and by and the beeping and the honking and the lights and the concrete jungle. It the lights and the concrete jungle. It just it felt so surreal like that felt just it felt so surreal like that felt odd, odd, >> not the and it only took me 10 days. Um, >> not the and it only took me 10 days. Um, not the the jungle I'd come out of, but not the the jungle I'd come out of, but so many people are on this healing so many people are on this healing journey, if you will, and this search journey, if you will, and this search for uh I call it the search for normaly. for uh I call it the search for normaly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, I think that's where most addiction >> Um, I think that's where most addiction begins is the search for normaly, not begins is the search for normaly, not the search for high. And so in the the search for high. And so in the search for normaly in the search for search for normaly in the search for being optimally healthy, when we talk being optimally healthy, when we talk about the gut microbiome and the immune

about the gut microbiome and the immune system, what are just some practical system, what are just some practical tips that you could give to working tips that you could give to working mothers who have to wake up in the mothers who have to wake up in the morning, get a kid to school, take care morning, get a kid to school, take care of their husband, maybe even have a of their husband, maybe even have a career during the day. They're coming career during the day. They're coming home. home. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They can't go out and forest bathe. Um, >> They can't go out and forest bathe. Um, you know, four or five things would you you know, four or five things would you say? turn your bathtub into a cold say? turn your bathtub into a cold punch, would you say? punch, would you say? >> Well, well, that's that's where I was. >> Well, well, that's that's where I was. >> So, I was pregnant or breastfeeding >> So, I was pregnant or breastfeeding non-stop 14 years non-stop 14 years >> clearly because of the number of >> clearly because of the number of grandchildren you have. grandchildren you have. >> Yes. Yes. And I'm in a rainforest. >> Yes. Yes. And I'm in a rainforest. >> You got a good factory. >> You got a good factory. >> And uh and I'm homeschooling my children >> And uh and I'm homeschooling my children and I've got no electricity. and I've got no electricity. >> So, how I did it was I planned my day. I >> So, how I did it was I planned my day. I planned my day. planned my day. >> So, mothers, please go to bed early. I >> So, mothers, please go to bed early. I used to breastfeed my babies to sleep used to breastfeed my babies to sleep and I usually stayed asleep with them. and I usually stayed asleep with them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that allowed me to get up early >> And that allowed me to get up early >> when you can access. In fact, I read in >> when you can access. In fact, I read in one book they called the hours of goal.

one book they called the hours of goal. >> That early morning when it's quiet cuz >> That early morning when it's quiet cuz just picture I had to light the fire to just picture I had to light the fire to cook my breakfast. cook my breakfast. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> But early morning I could go to bed >> But early morning I could go to bed early because I went to bed early. A lot early because I went to bed early. A lot of mothers when the kids go to sleep of mothers when the kids go to sleep then they do their work. No, no, no, no. then they do their work. No, no, no, no. You access those hours before midnight. You access those hours before midnight. >> The old saying is an hour before >> The old saying is an hour before midnight is worth two after. midnight is worth two after. >> I've heard that. >> I've heard that. >> Yeah. Yep. And the science shows that to >> Yeah. Yep. And the science shows that to be correct. be correct. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, you go to bed early then you can get >> So, you go to bed early then you can get up early and often you've got an hour or up early and often you've got an hour or two there. What you do then compared to two there. What you do then compared to what you would do before midnight, you what you would do before midnight, you get twice as much done. get twice as much done. >> So those early nights also keep >> So those early nights also keep hydrated. Go to bed with a glass of hydrated. Go to bed with a glass of water next to your bed. I see you've got water next to your bed. I see you've got the Baja salt there with all of its the Baja salt there with all of its minerals. Little little bit of salt and minerals. Little little bit of salt and and the glass of water. So, they're two and the glass of water. So, they're two absolutely vital and exercise. absolutely vital and exercise. >> And mothers say, "But I'm busy all day."

>> And mothers say, "But I'm busy all day." Yeah, but get outside. Get on that Yeah, but get outside. Get on that trampoline with the kids. Get a bike and trampoline with the kids. Get a bike and ride the bike. Put the baby in the ride the bike. Put the baby in the backpack. But but movement and food is backpack. But but movement and food is very important. So, what's great for very important. So, what's great for working mothers is a slow cooker. working mothers is a slow cooker. >> You can put you can put the millet or >> You can put you can put the millet or you can put the rice or you can put the you can put the rice or you can put the lentils in the slow cooker overnight. lentils in the slow cooker overnight. And that's how the Scottish always got And that's how the Scottish always got away with eating oats away with eating oats >> is they'd soak them all day and put them >> is they'd soak them all day and put them on the fuel stove overnight and that on the fuel stove overnight and that actually disarms the lectins. actually disarms the lectins. >> Ah, it does. So, cooking actually. >> Ah, it does. So, cooking actually. >> So, yep. One lady told me, she said, "I >> So, yep. One lady told me, she said, "I use a slow cooker overnight for the use a slow cooker overnight for the millet and I use and as soon as soon as millet and I use and as soon as soon as I've washed it, I put the lentils in I've washed it, I put the lentils in there for lunch." She said, "My slow there for lunch." She said, "My slow cooker is always going." cooker is always going." >> Really? That's a great idea. So, slow >> Really? That's a great idea. So, slow cooker bed getting to bed early. I mean, cooker bed getting to bed early. I mean, I' I've often heard sleep as being I' I've often heard sleep as being called our superpower. called our superpower. >> It is. >> It is. >> The human superpower. What's so

>> The human superpower. What's so important about sleep? Like what's going important about sleep? Like what's going on during sleep? That's so on during sleep? That's so >> Well, I I give people God's perfect >> Well, I I give people God's perfect mathematical form. mathematical form. >> Eight hours to work, eight hours to >> Eight hours to work, eight hours to play, eight hours to sleep. play, eight hours to sleep. >> Work, play, and sleep. All very >> Work, play, and sleep. All very important. Most people overdo the work important. Most people overdo the work bit. bit. >> Not enough play. I see that you play in >> Not enough play. I see that you play in your white water rafting. your white water rafting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's very important. And the >> And that's very important. And the sleep. So, especially the hours before sleep. So, especially the hours before midnight. There's a book called Why We midnight. There's a book called Why We Sleep by Dr. from Matthew Walker Sleep by Dr. from Matthew Walker >> and is that the blonde one that I >> and is that the blonde one that I >> Yeah. Yeah, I've seen him on Joe Rogan. >> Yeah. Yeah, I've seen him on Joe Rogan. >> Yeah, he's really good. He goes right >> Yeah, he's really good. He goes right into all the processes that happen in into all the processes that happen in the night. There's a cleaning process the night. There's a cleaning process that's cleaning up any little calcified that's cleaning up any little calcified plaques on our plaques on our >> on our front part of our brain. And >> on our front part of our brain. And you'll find that people that have you'll find that people that have regular late nights, regular late nights, >> that's a contributing factor to >> that's a contributing factor to Alzheimer's. I don't know anyone that Alzheimer's. I don't know anyone that wants to get that. That's enough to get wants to get that. That's enough to get us to bed early. In fact, if Margaret

us to bed early. In fact, if Margaret Thatcher had known that, I think she Thatcher had known that, I think she would have gone to bed early. would have gone to bed early. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But also, what's happening in the night >> But also, what's happening in the night is a processing system happens or a is a processing system happens or a filing system of all the day's events. filing system of all the day's events. >> And if we don't if if we don't go to bed >> And if we don't if if we don't go to bed in those early hours, then our short in those early hours, then our short range memory unit isn't totally emptied range memory unit isn't totally emptied ready for the next day's memories. ready for the next day's memories. >> So, that's another process. >> So, that's another process. >> Yeah. but also our invention, our >> Yeah. but also our invention, our creativity creativity >> that's that's happening especially in >> that's that's happening especially in the early hours of the morning. So the the early hours of the morning. So the cleanup is happening more uh before cleanup is happening more uh before midnight. midnight. >> Uh the um the filing before midnight >> Uh the um the filing before midnight >> and >> and after midnight then then it's more the after midnight then then it's more the um the processing. It's more the uh um the processing. It's more the uh inventions, the dreaming and he shows me inventions, the dreaming and he shows me and he and consolidation of what we've and he and consolidation of what we've learned

learned >> and he's got incredible figures in there >> and he's got incredible figures in there because because >> as a I think he worked in Oxford. He had >> as a I think he worked in Oxford. He had the opportunity to the opportunity to >> to test out on quite a few of his >> to test out on quite a few of his students. Some slept for eight hours, students. Some slept for eight hours, some slept for six and the difference in some slept for six and the difference in what the 8our sleepers retained compared what the 8our sleepers retained compared to the 6our sleeper. to the 6our sleeper. >> Wow. And now I know one podcast he gives >> Wow. And now I know one podcast he gives where he gets everyone's attention is where he gets everyone's attention is men are more verile if they have more men are more verile if they have more sleep and get those sleep and get those >> soon as you start talking about that. >> soon as you start talking about that. Yeah. You get you got everyone's Yeah. You get you got everyone's attention. You got everyone's attention. attention. You got everyone's attention. So it's so funny because you know when So it's so funny because you know when you look at verality and you know sperm you look at verality and you know sperm counts at least in the United States are counts at least in the United States are going down by a percent going down by a percent >> every year. Oh yeah. >> every year. Oh yeah. >> And infertility is rising. Oh yeah. by >> And infertility is rising. Oh yeah. by the divergence of these. the divergence of these. >> It's very scary. >> It's very scary. >> In fact, my um uh a good friend of my >> In fact, my um uh a good friend of my wife's just before I walked into this wife's just before I walked into this podcast did a post about her finally podcast did a post about her finally getting pregnant and her journey was

getting pregnant and her journey was mind-numbing. the IVF, the the blood mind-numbing. the IVF, the the blood filters, the, you know, she flew all filters, the, you know, she flew all over the world, 200 doctor's visits, and over the world, 200 doctor's visits, and eventually what she found was uh eventually what she found was uh catering to her mitochondria. Um, she catering to her mitochondria. Um, she did a mitochondrial program, and I did a mitochondrial program, and I actually want to delve into it. Um, and actually want to delve into it. Um, and this mitochondrial repair, which a lot this mitochondrial repair, which a lot of that was related to sleep. of that was related to sleep. >> Um, this mitochondrial repair. Um, and >> Um, this mitochondrial repair. Um, and thanks, she got pregnant. I think the thanks, she got pregnant. I think the body knows, body knows, >> uh, when you're in this constant >> uh, when you're in this constant sympathetic state of stress. sympathetic state of stress. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Right. Um, and we know too now that, you >> Right. Um, and we know too now that, you know, people say, well, how is stress know, people say, well, how is stress related to disease or pathology or related to disease or pathology or autoimmune? Well, it's directly related autoimmune? Well, it's directly related to our immune system. to our immune system. >> Are you ready? Are you ready for the >> Are you ready? Are you ready for the explanation? explanation? >> This is why I'm excited for this >> This is why I'm excited for this explanation. explanation. >> It's it's absolutely so. And I'm I'm so >> It's it's absolutely so. And I'm I'm so glad that you talked about the

glad that you talked about the sympathetic compared to the sympathetic compared to the parasympathetic. And what parasympathetic. And what >> one thing that really affects that is >> one thing that really affects that is breath. breath. So, I love the verse in the Bible. It's So, I love the verse in the Bible. It's it's um Genesis 2:7. It says, "God for it's um Genesis 2:7. It says, "God for man from the dust of the ground and man from the dust of the ground and breathe into his nostrils." breathe into his nostrils." >> Got that? Not mouth to mouth. M >> Got that? Not mouth to mouth. M >> breathe into his nostrils the breath of >> breathe into his nostrils the breath of life. He became a living soul. Nose is life. He became a living soul. Nose is for breathing. for breathing. >> Mouth is for eating, drinking, uh >> Mouth is for eating, drinking, uh speaking, singing, kissing. speaking, singing, kissing. >> But nose >> But nose >> and nose alone is for breathing. Now >> and nose alone is for breathing. Now when you breathe through your nose with when you breathe through your nose with your abdominal muscles, you stimulate your abdominal muscles, you stimulate your parasympathetic nervous system. And your parasympathetic nervous system. And your parasympathetic nervous system is your parasympathetic nervous system is your peaceful calming nervous system. your peaceful calming nervous system. But when you're breathing mouth, high But when you're breathing mouth, high chest, that stimulates the sympathetic chest, that stimulates the sympathetic nervous system. And the sympathetic nervous system. And the sympathetic nervous system is your fight and your nervous system is your fight and your flight. So flight. So >> the that has a direct effect, but also >> the that has a direct effect, but also before midnight,

before midnight, >> healing accelerates. >> healing accelerates. >> So lack of sleep has a direct effect not >> So lack of sleep has a direct effect not only in the functioning of our brain, only in the functioning of our brain, but also the functioning of our body, but also the functioning of our body, the healing of our body, our immune the healing of our body, our immune system. It's all connected. So in system. It's all connected. So in medicine today the the head's usually medicine today the the head's usually cut off. cut off. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So you've got psychiatrist and they >> So you've got psychiatrist and they never talk about the body. Then you've never talk about the body. Then you've got got >> body but they never talk about the mind >> body but they never talk about the mind and another things cut off is the teeth. and another things cut off is the teeth. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> And well that that well we could spend a >> And well that that well we could spend a few hours on that one. few hours on that one. >> Yeah. You know I I have to say that um I >> Yeah. You know I I have to say that um I I it's not that I wasn't a believer. I I it's not that I wasn't a believer. I just was unaware of the impact of the just was unaware of the impact of the oral microbiome and uh things like um oral microbiome and uh things like um root canals. I I actually uh have a very root canals. I I actually uh have a very good friend I'm actually interviewing good friend I'm actually interviewing Dr. Dom today who's one of the great Dr. Dom today who's one of the great biologic dentists of our time. He biologic dentists of our time. He trained a physician named uh Dr. Gandhi trained a physician named uh Dr. Gandhi Jagar Gandhi Jigar Gandhi. And uh I bit

Jagar Gandhi Jigar Gandhi. And uh I bit down on something one day and I cracked down on something one day and I cracked one of my teeth and I was like the one of my teeth and I was like the dentist and I hate the dentist. And so I dentist and I hate the dentist. And so I text my friend Dr. Gandhi and he said text my friend Dr. Gandhi and he said take a picture of it. So I took a take a picture of it. So I took a picture and I sent it to him and he said picture and I sent it to him and he said um just from this picture of my cracked um just from this picture of my cracked tooth um he could tell I had a root tooth um he could tell I had a root canal and he said uh let me ask you canal and he said uh let me ask you something. Does your left uh you have something. Does your left uh you have any issues with your left anterior any issues with your left anterior shoulder? Yep. That's really weird shoulder? Yep. That's really weird because I I thought I had like a minor because I I thought I had like a minor bicep tear and it always bothers me in bicep tear and it always bothers me in the gym right there. And and um and then the gym right there. And and um and then he said, "Do you ever get left lower he said, "Do you ever get left lower lobe lung pain?" I go, "Well, now you're lobe lung pain?" I go, "Well, now you're starting to freak me out because starting to freak me out because whenever I do hits cardio, I get a catch whenever I do hits cardio, I get a catch right here." And I always thought that right here." And I always thought that it was just my diaphragm, you know, just it was just my diaphragm, you know, just like a runner's cramp. And then I kid like a runner's cramp. And then I kid you not, he said, "Does your left toe you not, he said, "Does your left toe ever go numb?" I go, "I'm getting

ever go numb?" I go, "I'm getting goosebumps actually telling you this goosebumps actually telling you this because I go, "Okay, now you have because I go, "Okay, now you have substantially freaked me out. I've never substantially freaked me out. I've never told anyone. My wife's always teased me told anyone. My wife's always teased me because I would tap my foot on the because I would tap my foot on the ground or sometimes I would actually ground or sometimes I would actually take my shoe off and itch my left toe." take my shoe off and itch my left toe." And he said, "Yeah, that's your 19th And he said, "Yeah, that's your 19th tooth meridian. It's uh you had a root tooth meridian. It's uh you had a root canal there and you've got a cavitation, canal there and you've got a cavitation, probably an infection there." I go, "How probably an infection there." I go, "How do you know all that from the picture of do you know all that from the picture of my tooth?" So, I went up and saw him and my tooth?" So, I went up and saw him and you know, sure enough, he he did the you know, sure enough, he he did the cone beam X-ray. I had a big cavitation cone beam X-ray. I had a big cavitation right in there and he went in, fixed it, right in there and he went in, fixed it, red light, packed it with plate rich red light, packed it with plate rich fibon, capped it. 48 hours later, to fibon, capped it. 48 hours later, to this day, I have had that pain. this day, I have had that pain. >> So, I became an evangelist for uh the >> So, I became an evangelist for uh the oral microbiome. I went way down the oral microbiome. I went way down the rabbit hole. I went and sought out Dr. rabbit hole. I went and sought out Dr. met with him and um so many of these met with him and um so many of these root canal you know dentistry root canal you know dentistry >> I know I know you >> I know I know you >> they think you can leave dead tissue in

>> they think you can leave dead tissue in the body the body >> you that's right that's right and >> you that's right that's right and >> no area of medicine thinks >> no area of medicine thinks >> we have I have had so many stories of >> we have I have had so many stories of people people >> and root canals yeah >> and root canals yeah >> so what is your advice or your thesis on >> so what is your advice or your thesis on the oral microbiome and dental you said the oral microbiome and dental you said we could spend a podcast on it, but we could spend a podcast on it, but let's just spend a few minutes on it and let's just spend a few minutes on it and just highlight the importance of it and just highlight the importance of it and what people can do to care for it. what people can do to care for it. >> Well, one very simple thing that you can >> Well, one very simple thing that you can do every day is oil pulling. do every day is oil pulling. >> That's putting the coconut oil in the >> That's putting the coconut oil in the mouth and swishing and when it hits mouth and swishing and when it hits >> But they say you got to do it 20 >> But they say you got to do it 20 minutes, Barbara. That's so long. minutes, Barbara. That's so long. >> Nah, forget it. Forget it. I can't do it >> Nah, forget it. Forget it. I can't do it for 20 minutes. for 20 minutes. >> Okay, good. I'm glad to hear that cuz >> Okay, good. I'm glad to hear that cuz I'm like, okay, I'm like, okay, >> 10 minutes is enough. >> 10 minutes is enough. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I You're like me, but we haven't >> Yeah. I You're like me, but we haven't got time for something. got time for something. >> I don't have time for this nonsense. >> I don't have time for this nonsense. >> No. So, you know what I do? When I get >> No. So, you know what I do? When I get back from plunge, you know, running up back from plunge, you know, running up and down hills and plunging in the and down hills and plunging in the creek, I'll I'll have some water, then creek, I'll I'll have some water, then I'll put it in while I prepare I'll put it in while I prepare breakfast. I just sort of sit there and

breakfast. I just sort of sit there and swish. swish. >> But what that does is it pulls waste out >> But what that does is it pulls waste out of the tongue. It pulls waste out of the of the tongue. It pulls waste out of the glands under the tongue. It pulls waste glands under the tongue. It pulls waste out of the blood vessels under the out of the blood vessels under the tongue. But it also nourishes the tongue. But it also nourishes the >> the gums. >> the gums. they often get forgotten they often get forgotten >> and it gives a better microbiome in the >> and it gives a better microbiome in the mouth and then you release it out and mouth and then you release it out and when you release it out you you're when you release it out you you're releasing the waste that it's all pulled releasing the waste that it's all pulled out. So, the oil pulling is really good, out. So, the oil pulling is really good, but also when you clean your teeth, uh but also when you clean your teeth, uh use a use a um use a toothpaste that use a use a um use a toothpaste that doesn't have sugar, that doesn't have doesn't have sugar, that doesn't have fluoride, and you can get some great fluoride, and you can get some great ones and often uh xylitol because that's ones and often uh xylitol because that's also a little bit anti- anti- uh also a little bit anti- anti- uh >> anti antipathogenic >> anti antipathogenic microbial. Yeah. microbial. Yeah. >> So, it's just keeping that great >> So, it's just keeping that great microbiome in your mouth. That's very microbiome in your mouth. That's very important. And of course, our teeth, important. And of course, our teeth, they're bathed by fluid from the outside they're bathed by fluid from the outside and fluid fluid from the inside.

and fluid fluid from the inside. >> And it's what we eat and what we drink >> And it's what we eat and what we drink and how we live that influences those and how we live that influences those fluids that are bathing and fluids that are bathing and strengthening the teeth. strengthening the teeth. >> You know, I' I've since that encounter >> You know, I' I've since that encounter with Dr. Gandhi. Every day I I don't do with Dr. Gandhi. Every day I I don't do the oil pulling as often as I should. the oil pulling as often as I should. When I'm home, I do it. Um, but I floss When I'm home, I do it. Um, but I floss every night. I tongue scrape every every night. I tongue scrape every morning. Uh, I've dropped the fluoride morning. Uh, I've dropped the fluoride toothpaste. So, I use a hydroxy appatite toothpaste. So, I use a hydroxy appatite toothpaste. Um, and it I can see night toothpaste. Um, and it I can see night and day difference. Not my teeth don't and day difference. Not my teeth don't hurt that. My gums aren't sensitive when hurt that. My gums aren't sensitive when I when I brush them anymore. So, that I I when I brush them anymore. So, that I I think it all begins here, right? I think it all begins here, right? >> It does. I went uh I've got a friend, >> It does. I went uh I've got a friend, you might know him, Dr. Goran, you might know him, Dr. Goran, >> he's in Harley Street, and he saw my >> he's in Harley Street, and he saw my teeth last year, and he said, "Oh, teeth last year, and he said, "Oh, there's one on the side. there's just a there's one on the side. there's just a little bit of I don't know whether I'd little bit of I don't know whether I'd call it decay, you know, in the side of call it decay, you know, in the side of the tooth. He just looked at me again. the tooth. He just looked at me again. He said, "Oh, it hasn't changed." He said, "Oh, it hasn't changed." >> You know, that's an indication that my >> You know, that's an indication that my nutritional status is good.

nutritional status is good. >> Yeah. Because you're blocking that >> Yeah. Because you're blocking that pathology from pathology from >> Yeah. I'm not taking anything in that's >> Yeah. I'm not taking anything in that's chemical. I don't let any harmful things chemical. I don't let any harmful things go into my body. go into my body. >> But it's also exercise. It's also early >> But it's also exercise. It's also early nights. It's also keeping well hydrated. nights. It's also keeping well hydrated. So, it's So, it's >> And you're not afraid of the sun, >> And you're not afraid of the sun, probably. No, I'm not. probably. No, I'm not. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've been taught to >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've been taught to fear the sun. I saw an interesting graph fear the sun. I saw an interesting graph of the parabolic rise in skin cancer. of the parabolic rise in skin cancer. >> Superimposable with the parabolic use of >> Superimposable with the parabolic use of sunscreen. sunscreen. >> Absolutely. Ian Whisart, he's an author >> Absolutely. Ian Whisart, he's an author that talks about that. that talks about that. >> In fact, that's it. That was it. >> In fact, that's it. That was it. >> He even claims that sunscreens are >> He even claims that sunscreens are causing basilc cell carcinomomas. causing basilc cell carcinomomas. >> Yeah. Because of the inflammatory >> Yeah. Because of the inflammatory process, process, >> because of the vitamin D deficiency. >> because of the vitamin D deficiency. >> Yeah. I mean this that that's arguably I >> Yeah. I mean this that that's arguably I would say maybe vitamin D and maybe zinc would say maybe vitamin D and maybe zinc but um probably from from what I've read but um probably from from what I've read the two greatest nutrient deficiencies the two greatest nutrient deficiencies in the human body and when you think in the human body and when you think about when God made us he made us with

about when God made us he made us with the ability to make one vitamin the ability to make one vitamin >> we only make vitamin D3 we don't make >> we only make vitamin D3 we don't make any other vitamins I mean without eating any other vitamins I mean without eating drinking ingesting um you know we make drinking ingesting um you know we make it from sunlight and cholesterol it from sunlight and cholesterol >> um and we've also vilified cholesterol >> um and we've also vilified cholesterol And we if only we had another few hours, And we if only we had another few hours, we could go to cholesterol, but we we could go to cholesterol, but we haven't got time to go there. haven't got time to go there. >> Well, let's touch on it really quick >> Well, let's touch on it really quick before we wind the podcast. before we wind the podcast. >> How can we do that? >> How can we do that? >> Um um I use Whoop every single day. You >> Um um I use Whoop every single day. You guys see me post my sleep scores all the guys see me post my sleep scores all the time. What gets measured and tracked is time. What gets measured and tracked is what you can improve. You'll start to what you can improve. You'll start to notice what happens when you eat too notice what happens when you eat too close to bedtime, if you have alcohol, close to bedtime, if you have alcohol, what makes your sleep deeper, what what makes your sleep deeper, what prolongs your sleep, how you improve prolongs your sleep, how you improve your REM sleep. You can even start to your REM sleep. You can even start to track metrics like heart rate track metrics like heart rate variability, respiratory rate, and your variability, respiratory rate, and your actual pulse rate. These are all actual pulse rate. These are all indications of how well you're indications of how well you're recovering during sleep. I always say recovering during sleep. I always say that people don't really have a sleep that people don't really have a sleep hygiene or a good sleep routine, and

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great cholesterol con. He said for the first time normal levels of a normal first time normal levels of a normal vital body substance is been caused a vital body substance is been caused a disease. disease. >> So then the question is well what causes >> So then the question is well what causes heart disease? Do you know it's exactly heart disease? Do you know it's exactly the same as when I cut my hand, the the same as when I cut my hand, the blood clots blood clots >> and you damage the arterial wall, the >> and you damage the arterial wall, the blood clots blood clots >> and it starts to clot. And if it keeps >> and it starts to clot. And if it keeps getting damaged, the clots keep coming. getting damaged, the clots keep coming. >> And so what's damaging it? All the >> And so what's damaging it? All the environmental poisons we're exposed to. environmental poisons we're exposed to. The cheap seed oils. I say to people, The cheap seed oils. I say to people, walk straight past them. Don't touch walk straight past them. Don't touch them. them. >> They get into the blood. They damage the >> They get into the blood. They damage the tissues. Micotoxins damage the tissues. tissues. Micotoxins damage the tissues. Mercury damages the those little Mercury damages the those little endothelon cells. Now lining the endothelon cells. Now lining the endothelium is a little hairy layer endothelium is a little hairy layer called the glycoallex called the glycoallex >> and that protects the endothelium and >> and that protects the endothelium and when people are on high sugar high when people are on high sugar high carbohydrate diet it actually kills and carbohydrate diet it actually kills and knocks off the glycalus. So you see knocks off the glycalus. So you see there's all of that.

there's all of that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's what's causing heart disease. >> That's what's causing heart disease. >> Yeah. And you know cholesterol is one of >> Yeah. And you know cholesterol is one of those things that gets called to the those things that gets called to the site of inflammation or damage. It site of inflammation or damage. It doesn't just doesn't just >> well the other thing is when they have >> well the other thing is when they have tested those plaques they find fat in tested those plaques they find fat in there cholesterol type fat. But when you there cholesterol type fat. But when you realize that the membrane around every realize that the membrane around every red blood cell is 50% fat red blood cell is 50% fat >> and what's the clot made out of? >> and what's the clot made out of? >> Platelets and dead red blood cells. So >> Platelets and dead red blood cells. So they test it and they see the fat, but they test it and they see the fat, but it's actually the the uh structure of it's actually the the uh structure of the membrane around the red blood cell. the membrane around the red blood cell. >> I'm reading a book called The Clot >> I'm reading a book called The Clot Thickens by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick. Thickens by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick. >> Really? >> Really? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> The clot thickens. I'm going to read >> The clot thickens. I'm going to read that. that. >> And he Oh, he's >> And he Oh, he's >> So these are so red blood cells, which >> So these are so red blood cells, which do have a phospholipid billayer, right? do have a phospholipid billayer, right? This makes sense to me. Um have a This makes sense to me. Um have a phosphoipid blayer, get called to the phosphoipid blayer, get called to the site of injury to create a clot. Let's site of injury to create a clot. Let's just call it that for a moment. just call it that for a moment. >> And then after the hemoglobin

>> And then after the hemoglobin is extracted, you have the phospholipid is extracted, you have the phospholipid blayer fat that is now creating this blayer fat that is now creating this sticky sticky >> and they're pointing to cholesterol. >> and they're pointing to cholesterol. >> And that brings us to nitric oxide >> And that brings us to nitric oxide >> which only is released when we nose >> which only is released when we nose breathe. And nitric oxide is a vasod breathe. And nitric oxide is a vasod diilator. diilator. >> But nitric oxide also stimulates new >> But nitric oxide also stimulates new endothelium cells. And the glycalis, endothelium cells. And the glycalis, the glycoal, that's that little furry the glycoal, that's that little furry lining on the endothelium, lining on the endothelium, >> it releases nitric oxide. >> it releases nitric oxide. >> So when the high sugar diet has knocked >> So when the high sugar diet has knocked off all the glycolaxis, off all the glycolaxis, >> you've actually lost your nitric oxide >> you've actually lost your nitric oxide from there. Nitric oxide is also from there. Nitric oxide is also released in nose breathing. So released in nose breathing. So everyone's all clogged up because everyone's all clogged up because they're on the high wheat, high sugar they're on the high wheat, high sugar diet. So they're breathing with their diet. So they're breathing with their mouth. So they're not getting nitric mouth. So they're not getting nitric oxide there. oxide there. >> Can you see that? >> Can you see that? >> That's one of the reasons why I I'll >> That's one of the reasons why I I'll mouth tape sometimes at night. mouth tape sometimes at night. >> Oh, it's a great idea.

>> Oh, it's a great idea. >> And I actually do notice my sleep scores >> And I actually do notice my sleep scores improve. improve. >> And I've noticed that you didn't die. >> And I've noticed that you didn't die. >> That's a great observation. >> That's a great observation. >> Most people, >> Most people, >> which is the Yeah. Is the is the key >> which is the Yeah. Is the is the key feature of a healer. So is is feature of a healer. So is is observation. So you noticed that I was observation. So you noticed that I was alive. alive. >> Yeah. Well, that's what people think. >> Yeah. Well, that's what people think. They think they're going to die if they They think they're going to die if they tape their mouth up. Mhm. tape their mouth up. Mhm. >> They do. Well, you will if your nose is >> They do. Well, you will if your nose is all congested. all congested. >> It's an excellent book, Breath. James >> It's an excellent book, Breath. James Nester, he it's a fantastic read and I Nester, he it's a fantastic read and I love the way he quotes many other love the way he quotes many other scientists, researchers, doctors who've scientists, researchers, doctors who've come to the same conclusion. He presents come to the same conclusion. He presents his case, which I I really like, and he his case, which I I really like, and he shows that the more we nose breathe, the shows that the more we nose breathe, the more the little canals open up. more the little canals open up. >> So, the more we mouth breathe, the more >> So, the more we mouth breathe, the more they close. M I mean that's kind of true they close. M I mean that's kind of true with every physiologic process in the with every physiologic process in the body. The body has a way of ignoring body. The body has a way of ignoring things that we don't use. If you put a things that we don't use. If you put a cast on your ankle, it atrophies. cast on your ankle, it atrophies. >> You don't use it, you'll lose it. Same

>> You don't use it, you'll lose it. Same with the brain. with the brain. >> Yeah, very true. So, final thing I want >> Yeah, very true. So, final thing I want to touch on um is the brain. And you to touch on um is the brain. And you know there's I I think some of the know there's I I think some of the greatest fear especially in the older greatest fear especially in the older population is Alzheimer's, dementia, population is Alzheimer's, dementia, neuro neurodeenerative decline, neuro neurodeenerative decline, neurocognitive decline, whatever you neurocognitive decline, whatever you want to call that. Um obviously living a want to call that. Um obviously living a lifestyle of whole foods, movement, lifestyle of whole foods, movement, sunlight, grounding, breath work, those sunlight, grounding, breath work, those things are they really are medicine. Um, things are they really are medicine. Um, but if somebody particularly wants to but if somebody particularly wants to care for their brain, they're noticing care for their brain, they're noticing that they have a family history of that they have a family history of cognitive decline or neurodeenerative cognitive decline or neurodeenerative disorders. Um, they're noticing the disorders. Um, they're noticing the brain fog sort of start to creep in. brain fog sort of start to creep in. It's getting increasingly more It's getting increasingly more disruptive to their daily life. What, if disruptive to their daily life. What, if anything, can they do specifically for anything, can they do specifically for the brain? the brain? >> Well, I always want to know the cause >> Well, I always want to know the cause >> and I'm a Bible student. There's no

>> and I'm a Bible student. There's no mention of Alzheimer's mention of Alzheimer's >> in the Bible. The Bible spans thousands >> in the Bible. The Bible spans thousands of years. of years. >> In fact, you look at 150 years ago, it >> In fact, you look at 150 years ago, it was quite rare. So, we've got to look at was quite rare. So, we've got to look at what's happening, what has happened. what's happening, what has happened. >> And a lot of the time it is damage. >> And a lot of the time it is damage. Damage to the cells. What causes the Damage to the cells. What causes the damage? Mercury is a big one. We've got damage? Mercury is a big one. We've got to get it out of the teeth, out of the to get it out of the teeth, out of the fish, fish, >> and also out of the flu vaccine. I heard >> and also out of the flu vaccine. I heard that Robert Kennedy Jr. recently took it that Robert Kennedy Jr. recently took it out of the flu vaccine. That was good out of the flu vaccine. That was good news. Do you know it's just little by news. Do you know it's just little by little by little. And I mentioned little by little. And I mentioned earlier lack of sleep. earlier lack of sleep. >> Um Margaret Thatcher boasted she only >> Um Margaret Thatcher boasted she only needed 5 hours sleep a night. Ronald needed 5 hours sleep a night. Ronald Reagan boasted he only needed 5 hours Reagan boasted he only needed 5 hours sleep a night. And I'm sure it wasn't sleep a night. And I'm sure it wasn't 5:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. 5:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. >> 1:00 a.m. to 6 a.m. probably. >> 1:00 a.m. to 6 a.m. probably. >> Yes. And they they both ended last 20 >> Yes. And they they both ended last 20 years of their life with severe years of their life with severe dementia. I'm not saying it is just lack dementia. I'm not saying it is just lack of sleep. That's one of the factors and of sleep. That's one of the factors and in every case it can be different in every case it can be different factors. So we got to get to bed early.

factors. So we got to get to bed early. >> Hydration. We saw one lady come with >> Hydration. We saw one lady come with dementia. She wouldn't even look at you. dementia. She wouldn't even look at you. She's just looking through you. She's just looking through you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We found out she hadn't wasn't drinking >> We found out she hadn't wasn't drinking water. Hadn't been open to bowels for 6 water. Hadn't been open to bowels for 6 days. days. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> We got the bowels moving. We got her >> We got the bowels moving. We got her hydrated. Within 48 hours there was no hydrated. Within 48 hours there was no sign of dementia. sign of dementia. >> So can you see there's different there's >> So can you see there's different there's there's water. There's good salts, which there's water. There's good salts, which is the best way to hydrate. There's is the best way to hydrate. There's >> You actually turned me on to that. I saw >> You actually turned me on to that. I saw a lecture you did where you put Celtic a lecture you did where you put Celtic salt right on the on the tongue. salt right on the on the tongue. >> I think that's my most famous lecture. >> I think that's my most famous lecture. >> Is it? Yeah. Yeah, that was a good one. >> Is it? Yeah. Yeah, that was a good one. >> And you know what? Every >> And you know what? Every >> And I went deep down the rabbit hole on >> And I went deep down the rabbit hole on salt. And you're right. We've been lied salt. And you're right. We've been lied to about salt, too. to about salt, too. >> And you know what everyone loved about >> And you know what everyone loved about that? By the way, it's easy to do, that? By the way, it's easy to do, >> right? >> right? >> Anyone can >> Anyone can >> No, that bag of salt will cost you, I >> No, that bag of salt will cost you, I don't know, $10 and it'll probably last don't know, $10 and it'll probably last you. you. >> It'll last you a long time. I've got a >> It'll last you a long time. I've got a store that I travel with. store that I travel with. >> I'll give you that one before you leave. >> I'll give you that one before you leave. >> So, >> So, >> it's great. >> it's great. >> There's also So, can you see in every

>> There's also So, can you see in every case it can be slightly different, case it can be slightly different, >> but there are some fundamentals >> but there are some fundamentals >> there is. And uh I love the saying I >> there is. And uh I love the saying I read in an old book, many might be well read in an old book, many might be well if only they thought so. if only they thought so. >> That's a great one. >> That's a great one. >> I love that. >> I love that. >> So true. >> So true. >> So, if someone thinks they're going to >> So, if someone thinks they're going to get dementia, they probably will. get dementia, they probably will. >> Mhm. And >> Mhm. And >> the Bible says that, too. So a man >> the Bible says that, too. So a man thinkketh, he shall become. thinkketh, he shall become. >> As a man thinkketh in his heart, so is >> As a man thinkketh in his heart, so is he. he. >> And a lady said to me one day, "I can't >> And a lady said to me one day, "I can't sleep. I can't sleep. I can't sleep." I sleep. I can't sleep. I can't sleep." I said, "Don't say that anymore." She said, "Don't say that anymore." She said, "Why not?" said, "Why not?" >> I said, "Because every cell in your body >> I said, "Because every cell in your body is listening." is listening." >> And it says, "Looks like we can't >> And it says, "Looks like we can't sleep." sleep." >> Yeah. And so when you lay down to sleep, >> Yeah. And so when you lay down to sleep, you go, "This is something I don't do you go, "This is something I don't do well." well." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they all say, "Oh, yeah, we're >> And they all say, "Oh, yeah, we're listening." So what I say is, just say, listening." So what I say is, just say, "I'm going to try. "I'm going to try. >> I'm going to get there." Like my >> I'm going to get there." Like my daughter Emma, she said, "Mom, I'm going daughter Emma, she said, "Mom, I'm going to grow up in a minute." to grow up in a minute." >> She was five. >> She was five. >> Yeah. You know, >> Yeah. You know, >> it >> it >> took her another 10 years. It It's >> took her another 10 years. It It's actually your words have a had an effect

actually your words have a had an effect on your mind. on your mind. >> You know, it reminds me of a funny story >> You know, it reminds me of a funny story just popped in my mind years ago. I I just popped in my mind years ago. I I had a friend named Mark Goodman. He had had a friend named Mark Goodman. He had this home on a island, You Island, and this home on a island, You Island, and and all the kids and I used to go out and all the kids and I used to go out there and we were participating in this there and we were participating in this fishing tournament one day. So all the fishing tournament one day. So all the kids had those little, you know, ones kids had those little, you know, ones that you the line you unwrap and we had that you the line you unwrap and we had chicken down and we're catching fish chicken down and we're catching fish >> uh on the pier. It's all line with >> uh on the pier. It's all line with families and kids and this little girl, families and kids and this little girl, she was probably 10 years old. She falls she was probably 10 years old. She falls into the water and she starts thrashing into the water and she starts thrashing around and she's starts screaming and uh around and she's starts screaming and uh all the parents from the other uh you all the parents from the other uh you know pier all jump in. They're all know pier all jump in. They're all making their way over to her and my making their way over to her and my partner is right next to her and I know partner is right next to her and I know he's not doing anything and he just he's not doing anything and he just yells at her. He goes, "Stand up." And yells at her. He goes, "Stand up." And she stood up and it was like less than she stood up and it was like less than wasty water cuz I was coming down the wasty water cuz I was coming down the pier and you know and he was just so pier and you know and he was just so calm and he let her thrash for a second

calm and he let her thrash for a second and he said, "Stand up." And then she and he said, "Stand up." And then she just stood up and it was like literally just stood up and it was like literally below her waist. So by the time all the below her waist. So by the time all the parents who are now soaking wet in all parents who are now soaking wet in all their clothes, you know, and all the their clothes, you know, and all the moms the hats flying off had made their moms the hats flying off had made their way over to her, she was just standing way over to her, she was just standing up. So sometimes the solutions right in up. So sometimes the solutions right in front of us, front of us, >> you know, it it often very much is. So >> you know, it it often very much is. So really, we we got to tick the boxes. really, we we got to tick the boxes. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> we got to tick the boxes now. >> we got to tick the boxes now. >> Keep keep that body moving. Keep that >> Keep keep that body moving. Keep that colon working. have the And if you're colon working. have the And if you're well hydrated and you're eating lots of well hydrated and you're eating lots of plants, it it it will and relax, laugh plants, it it it will and relax, laugh more. more. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Do you know children laugh 125 times a >> Do you know children laugh 125 times a day? day? >> Adults maybe. >> Adults maybe. >> And you know, my my daughter-in-law told >> And you know, my my daughter-in-law told me this that her her little grandson me this that her her little grandson Sunny, the guy that stood on the dusty Sunny, the guy that stood on the dusty n, he called her in one night and said, n, he called her in one night and said, "Mom, she's put him to bed." He said, "Mom, she's put him to bed." He said, "What is it?" He said, "I found a new "What is it?" He said, "I found a new laugh." laugh." >> She said, "What is it?" And he went,

That's so good. >> You know, we we should laugh more >> You know, we we should laugh more because agree. Member of the Bru social. because agree. Member of the Bru social. >> Yeah. Sense of community and purpose. >> Yeah. Sense of community and purpose. Barbara, you're amazing. Um, where can Barbara, you're amazing. Um, where can my audience find you if they want to my audience find you if they want to know more about you? know more about you? >> I'm about to make an official statement. >> I'm about to make an official statement. >> Official Barbara >> Official Barbara >> O'Neal.com. >> O'Neal.com. >> Barbara official >> Barbara official is official. is official. >> Do you have a book? I have a couple of >> Do you have a book? I have a couple of books. books. >> I was going to say you really need a >> I was going to say you really need a book and I'm going to read them. book and I'm going to read them. >> I've got I've got a book on micotoxins. >> I've got I've got a book on micotoxins. >> You do. >> You do. >> I'm so happy to hear you talk about >> I'm so happy to hear you talk about micotoxins. micotoxins. >> Oh, mold and micotoxins >> Oh, mold and micotoxins >> because that's an area many people don't >> because that's an area many people don't know about because of the ignorance. know about because of the ignorance. I've written a book on it and it's I've written a book on it and it's called self-heal by design. called self-heal by design. >> Do you talk about detoxing from mold and >> Do you talk about detoxing from mold and microtoxin? microtoxin? >> The true role of microorganisms in >> The true role of microorganisms in disease disease >> and that was my first book. I think I >> and that was my first book. I think I wrote that in about 2016. Now my most wrote that in about 2016. Now my most recent book that was published last year recent book that was published last year is called sustain me and sustain me is

is called sustain me and sustain me is an acronym for the basic laws of health. an acronym for the basic laws of health. Sustain me is a handbook on natural Sustain me is a handbook on natural therapies. I have a chapter on therapies. I have a chapter on hydrotherapy a chapter on pulvises have hydrotherapy a chapter on pulvises have I start at the head. I look at ears are I start at the head. I look at ears are the eyes ears uh respiratory I go into the eyes ears uh respiratory I go into the stomach bones. So it's like a the stomach bones. So it's like a handbook on natural remedies. handbook on natural remedies. >> Fantastic. My husband has written a book >> Fantastic. My husband has written a book called The Assassination of Barbara called The Assassination of Barbara O'Neal. O'Neal. >> Wow, that will be a good one. >> Wow, that will be a good one. >> Now, as you can see, I have not been >> Now, as you can see, I have not been assassinated. assassinated. >> Yes. I would say we should change the >> Yes. I would say we should change the title maybe to the unsuccessful title maybe to the unsuccessful assassination. assassination. >> But I said to Michael I said to Michael, >> But I said to Michael I said to Michael, "That's a bit strong." He said, "No, "That's a bit strong." He said, "No, it's good." it's good." >> Yeah. No, it it'll get it'll get >> Yeah. No, it it'll get it'll get attention. attention. >> And it it's basically a book of uh why I >> And it it's basically a book of uh why I was banned and what the Australian was banned and what the Australian government did to me. government did to me. >> Fantastic. Well, um, we're going to go >> Fantastic. Well, um, we're going to go in for just a few minutes into my VIP in for just a few minutes into my VIP group. I have a VIP community. These are group. I have a VIP community. These are these are the real community that I these are the real community that I serve. I spend a lot of time with them.

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Whole Food Over Labels

A label can simplify identity while obscuring nourishment. O’Neill describes moving away from calling herself vegan because the word no longer gave enough precision. Seed oils can be vegan. Refined sugar can be vegan. Additives and chemical fillers can be vegan. A category can be technically accurate and still fail the body.

Your body can tell you what no man can tell you. Your body can tell you what no test can tell you.

Her sharper distinction is not between tribes, but between food and products. Eating plants is not the same as eating ultra-processed items marketed as plant-based. A carrot, a potato, a bean, a grain, a nut, and a piece of fruit carry a different signal than a spray can of sweetened, stabilized topping.

This is where wellness language can lose its discipline. Plant-based should point toward plants. When it becomes a halo for refined oils, sugars, binders, fillers, colors, and stabilizers, it stops being a useful guide. The name on the front of a package matters less than the ingredients on the back.

Gary offers a practical rule that removes unnecessary pressure. You do not need to memorize an encyclopedia of additives. Read the label and ask whether you know where to find the ingredient in a grocery store. If you cannot locate it as food, pause before making it part of your ritual.

That rule is not perfect, but it is useful. It brings attention back to recognizability. Coconut cream, oats, almonds, apples, lentils, olive oil, and sea salt occupy a different place in the pantry than long strings of compounds designed to thicken, preserve, bind, color, or intensify flavor.

The deeper lens is distance from origin. Seed oils enter the conversation not as an attack on plants, but as an example of how far a substance can move from the plant itself. Processing is not automatically harmful; cooking, fermenting, grinding, and preserving can all belong to human food culture. Ultra-processing is different because it often replaces food integrity with engineering.

This perspective makes nourishment less ideological and more intimate. You can eat in a way that reflects your ethics, preferences, culture, and body without outsourcing judgment to a label. The question becomes simple: does this food support clarity, digestion, steadiness, and vitality, or does it only satisfy the language of a diet?

A premium protocol does not need to be complicated. It needs to be deliberate. Choose ingredients the body can recognize. Favor meals with texture, color, and origin. Let the label confirm what the food already shows. Whole food creates a quieter kind of confidence.

Microbiome And Immune Resilience

Food does not meet the body directly. The gut stands between what you eat and what you become. In the conversation, the microbiome is described as an intermediary: we eat to feed gut bacteria, and they help feed us. That image is simple, but it changes the entire frame.

Digestion is not only breakdown. It is selection, absorption, and relationship. O’Neill describes the gastrointestinal tract as a long hollow tube where food remains outside the body until it is broken down into particles small enough to enter the blood. The moment of absorption is where nourishment becomes personal.

The microbiome helps shape that moment. These organisms assist in the final stages of digestion and influence how well nutrients move from the gut into circulation. When that system functions well, food becomes usable. You feel the difference as steadier energy, clearer thinking, better recovery, and a more resilient baseline.

The immune system enters through the same door. The conversation includes the claim that a large share of immune activity is shaped by gut flora. The exact framing deserves care, but the principle is sound enough for daily life: the gut and immune system communicate closely, and the condition of the gut influences how prepared the body feels.

That makes food quality more than a matter of calories. It becomes a way of tending the internal environment. Whole foods, fiber-rich plants, simple ingredients, and meals that digest cleanly support the organisms involved in absorption and defense. You are not only feeding yourself; you are feeding the system that helps translate food into vitality.

We don't eat to feed ourselves. We eat to feed our gut bacteria, and they eat to feed us.

Antibiotics are discussed with force because they are powerful tools. They can suppress pathogenic bacteria, and they can also disturb beneficial bacteria. Both truths matter. A strong health philosophy does not require rejecting modern medicine; it requires respecting potency and using it with precision.

The most balanced reading is straightforward. Preserve antibiotics for serious need, guided by qualified medical care, and support the body afterward with attention to food, rest, hydration, and time. Recovery is not only the absence of infection. It is the return of balance after disruption.

This is the sanctuary model of the body. You do not sterilize every surface of life in pursuit of resilience. You create conditions where the body can meet the world with competence. Clean water, clean hands, nourishing food, and microbial respect can coexist. True resilience is disciplined, not fearful.

Where The Conversation Gets Contested

The conversation moves from broad wellness principles into contested territory: vaccines, infant formula, autism, raw goat milk, and claims about causation. This is where discernment becomes part of the protocol. A grounded reader can receive the useful basics without treating every disputed claim as settled fact.

Breastfeeding is presented as the ideal source of infant nutrition, and that aligns with a long-standing respect for human milk. The conversation also discusses goat milk formula and raw goat milk. Those topics require care because infants are vulnerable, and feeding decisions belong with qualified pediatric guidance, especially when breastfeeding is not possible.

Autism is discussed in relation to infant formula, blue light, vaccines, and Amish communities. These are significant claims, and the article should not repeat them as established medical conclusions. Rising diagnosis rates, parental concern, and environmental questions deserve serious attention. They also require evidence strong enough to carry the weight of causation.

The same discipline applies to vaccines. The episode includes skepticism about the number of vaccines given in childhood and claims about historical disease graphs. It also points toward sanitation, hygiene, nutrition, and clean water as major public-health gains. Clean water and sewage systems did transform life expectancy. That truth does not, by itself, settle every question about vaccination.

History can hold more than one force at once. Sanitation reduced exposure to dangerous pathogens. Handwashing changed childbirth and surgery. Better nutrition strengthened populations. Vaccines also belong to modern public-health history and require evaluation through careful evidence, disease by disease, risk by risk, benefit by benefit.

This distinction protects the integrity of the basics. We do not need to reject evidence-based care to value food, sunlight, movement, sleep, clean water, and community. We do not need to dismiss medicine to respect the body’s capacity to repair. The mature position is not opposition. It is hierarchy, timing, and judgment.

The most useful thread in the episode remains simple. Reduce ultra-processed food. Read labels. Eat closer to the source. Move daily. Build connection. Respect the gut. Use powerful tools with care. Listen to the body before it has to speak louder.

Longevity is not a rebellion against science. It is a return to first principles, held with enough humility to keep learning. The basics can be deeply empowering when they are practiced with discernment. That is where resilience becomes a lived experience, not a belief system.

It's designed to heal. It will heal. It will function and be maintained when we give it the right conditions.

Wim's Wise Words

A second take, from someone who's lived it.

If you take one thing from this, make it order. Basics first. Tools second. Opinions last.

I have seen more progress from a steady breakfast, a daily walk, a cleaner pantry, and an earlier night than from almost any advanced protocol added on top of disorder. The body likes rhythm. It likes food it can recognize. It likes light in the morning, movement through the day, and a clear signal that the evening is for recovery.

That is where I would start. Not with a belief system. With a week of observation.

Where I’d Start

For seven days, simplify the inputs. Eat meals built from whole ingredients. Walk after one meal each day. Get outside early. Stop eating late enough that sleep has room to do its work. If you use heat or cold, keep it precise: short cold exposure for clarity, sauna in the evening when you want the nervous system to come down. Thermal stress can support resilience, but only when the foundation can carry it.

I save heat for evenings. Twenty minutes of sauna gives me the pause that an evening drink only pretends to offer. It slows the day down. Cold is different. I use it when I want focus, not punishment. The point is not to prove toughness. The point is to give the body a clear signal and then listen to the response.

Be careful with certainty, especially around infants, vaccines, raw milk, and serious health decisions. A strong natural philosophy does not require you to dismiss qualified medical guidance. If a choice carries real risk, bring in the right professional and ask better questions. Discernment is not rebellion. It is maturity.

The same applies to food labels. Do not let a word on the front of a package make the decision for you. Turn it over. Read slowly. If the ingredient list feels more engineered than grown, pause. You do not need fear around food; you need standards.

Longevity is built through repetition. The meal you return to. The walk you protect. The phone you put down. The friend you sit with. The contrast ritual you use with respect. For a wider lens on how these signals work together, One Signal, Three Rituals is worth reading next.

Keep the protocol quiet enough that you can feel it. That is where the useful information starts.