4 Mood Boosters You Can Actually Feel (Light, Heat, Cold & O2) | Vitruvian

Video·Catalyst for Healing·10 min read·June 2026

Four physical inputs — red light, cold, heat, and breath — each reduce inflammation and reset the nervous system. The result is a mood shift you can actually feel.

There are four environmental stimuli — red light, cold, heat, and breath — that each trigger the body's own mood-regulating response. They work through different mechanisms, but they share a single target: the chronic, low-grade inflammation that quietly undermines energy, focus, and emotional equilibrium. Reduce that inflammation systematically, and the body recalibrates. The mind follows. This is not a theory; it is a mechanism that practitioners and researchers have documented across each of these modalities independently.

The connection between inflammation and mood is not metaphorical. Research has established that inflammatory markers in the body — and especially in the brain — correlate directly with low mood, fatigue, and cognitive dulling. Elevated inflammatory cytokines suppress the production of the neurotransmitters that regulate motivation and mood, including dopamine and serotonin. This is why pharmaceutical approaches often fall short: they address symptoms downstream, while the inflammatory cycle continues. Physical protocols intervene at the source.

These are not exotic therapies reserved for elite athletes or biohackers. Wellness clinics now offer all four modalities under one roof — red light, cryotherapy, sauna, and guided breathwork — accessible as individual sessions or as part of a curated protocol. Home access has also expanded substantially. A quality red light panel, a cold plunge, or a consistent breathwork practice each represent a deliberate investment in the body's adaptive capacity — what researchers call hormesis, and what you experience as resilience that builds over time.

The personal arc behind these protocols is often the most instructive part of the story. Tony Ananag spent years searching for a sustainable path through postpartum depression and the exhaustion of early motherhood. Medication helped, but incompletely. What ultimately shifted her energy, mood, and long-term vitality was building a daily practice around these four modalities — layering them deliberately, tracking what changed, and learning to read her own body's responses.

What these protocols offer is not a shortcut. They are a reset — a systematic way to reduce the inflammatory load that accumulates through stress, poor sleep, and the ordinary demands of a full life. The investment is in regularity and intention, not duration. Four inputs converge on one outcome: a mood shift you can actually feel.

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Welcome to Catalyst for Healing. I am Welcome to Catalyst for Healing. I am here today with Tony Ananag. here today with Tony Ananag. here today with Tony Ananag. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> She's a good friend of mine and also is >> She's a good friend of mine and also is >> She's a good friend of mine and also is a wife, a mother, and grandmother and a wife, a mother, and grandmother and a wife, a mother, and grandmother and has an online course called Healthy has an online course called Healthy has an online course called Healthy Boundaries for Women. She also works at Boundaries for Women. She also works at Boundaries for Women. She also works at a wellness clinic and she's here to talk a wellness clinic and she's here to talk a wellness clinic and she's here to talk with us today about some really unique with us today about some really unique with us today about some really unique treatment options for mood that maybe treatment options for mood that maybe treatment options for mood that maybe you've heard about, maybe you haven't or you've heard about, maybe you haven't or you've heard about, maybe you haven't or you've kind of heard about it and we you've kind of heard about it and we you've kind of heard about it and we just want to go into more detail because just want to go into more detail because just want to go into more detail because we think some of these ways of, you we think some of these ways of, you we think some of these ways of, you know, practicing wellness have a huge know, practicing wellness have a huge know, practicing wellness have a huge impact on mood and energy. So, why don't impact on mood and energy. So, why don't impact on mood and energy. So, why don't you introduce yourself and then we'll go you introduce yourself and then we'll go you introduce yourself and then we'll go ahead and talk about some of these ahead and talk about some of these ahead and talk about some of these things that we're going to talk about. things that we're going to talk about. things that we're going to talk about. >> All right. Well, thank you for having >> All right. Well, thank you for having >> All right. Well, thank you for having me. I'm so excited. Like you said, we're me. I'm so excited. Like you said, we're me. I'm so excited. Like you said, we're friends. So we and we met at the friends. So we and we met at the friends. So we and we met at the wellness center which is cool. I have wellness center which is cool. I have wellness center which is cool. I have had a very long wellness journey and

had a very long wellness journey and had a very long wellness journey and it's you know I have I was raised by a it's you know I have I was raised by a it's you know I have I was raised by a single mom who struggled a lot and I had single mom who struggled a lot and I had single mom who struggled a lot and I had a lot of anxiety growing up and became a a lot of anxiety growing up and became a a lot of anxiety growing up and became a mom myself and obviously wanted to do it mom myself and obviously wanted to do it mom myself and obviously wanted to do it totally better and different and put totally better and different and put totally better and different and put myself totally into it and then lost myself totally into it and then lost myself totally into it and then lost myself and then I had postpartum with my myself and then I had postpartum with my myself and then I had postpartum with my second child which was super hard second child which was super hard second child which was super hard postpartum depression and that lasted postpartum depression and that lasted postpartum depression and that lasted for a good two years or so and it took a for a good two years or so and it took a for a good two years or so and it took a long time to recover from that but as a long time to recover from that but as a long time to recover from that but as a mom again I just lost myself. I was a mom again I just lost myself. I was a mom again I just lost myself. I was a great mom, but I wasn't great to me. And great mom, but I wasn't great to me. And great mom, but I wasn't great to me. And then as the kids got older, I realized then as the kids got older, I realized then as the kids got older, I realized something's got to give. Like, I'm something's got to give. Like, I'm something's got to give. Like, I'm exhausted and I need to take care of exhausted and I need to take care of exhausted and I need to take care of myself. So, I think that's when the myself. So, I think that's when the myself. So, I think that's when the wellness journey began. And I started wellness journey began. And I started wellness journey began. And I started searching for things to make me feel searching for things to make me feel searching for things to make me feel better, to boost my mood, to to give me better, to boost my mood, to to give me better, to boost my mood, to to give me more energy, to just longevity. And more energy, to just longevity. And more energy, to just longevity. And then, I mean, fast forward to now, I then, I mean, fast forward to now, I then, I mean, fast forward to now, I have grandkids. So, the last thing I have grandkids. So, the last thing I have grandkids. So, the last thing I want to do is die early. want to do is die early. want to do is die early. >> So, I've been taking way better care of >> So, I've been taking way better care of >> So, I've been taking way better care of myself. But through that, I learned how myself. But through that, I learned how myself. But through that, I learned how to I've always had a heart for women. I to I've always had a heart for women. I to I've always had a heart for women. I love women. I love helping women. So, I love women. I love helping women. So, I love women. I love helping women. So, I created that online course, you know, created that online course, you know, created that online course, you know, healthy boundaries for moms, helping

healthy boundaries for moms, helping healthy boundaries for moms, helping moms just create and maintain healthy moms just create and maintain healthy moms just create and maintain healthy boundaries, maximize their mental, boundaries, maximize their mental, boundaries, maximize their mental, physical, and emotional well-being so physical, and emotional well-being so physical, and emotional well-being so that they can be better mom, a better that they can be better mom, a better that they can be better mom, a better wife, a better friend, all the things, wife, a better friend, all the things, wife, a better friend, all the things, but take care of themselves first. And I but take care of themselves first. And I but take care of themselves first. And I always say it's like the airplane thing, always say it's like the airplane thing, always say it's like the airplane thing, right? That analogy of like put your right? That analogy of like put your right? That analogy of like put your mask on first so that you can take care mask on first so that you can take care mask on first so that you can take care of everybody else. That's what moms need of everybody else. That's what moms need of everybody else. That's what moms need to do. And that's what I finally did. to do. And that's what I finally did. to do. And that's what I finally did. >> And I feel great. I have like boundless >> And I feel great. I have like boundless >> And I feel great. I have like boundless energy. I I just feel amazing. So, but energy. I I just feel amazing. So, but energy. I I just feel amazing. So, but that happened with a lot of these that happened with a lot of these that happened with a lot of these therapies we're about to talk about therapies we're about to talk about therapies we're about to talk about today. today. today. >> They really helped in my journey and >> They really helped in my journey and >> They really helped in my journey and that's why I'm so excited to talk about that's why I'm so excited to talk about that's why I'm so excited to talk about them. them. them. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> And I'm so excited to have you because >> And I'm so excited to have you because >> And I'm so excited to have you because you and I really connected. So, you were you and I really connected. So, you were you and I really connected. So, you were working at it's called Restore Hyperw working at it's called Restore Hyperw working at it's called Restore Hyperw Wellness. Um there's one here locally, Wellness. Um there's one here locally, Wellness. Um there's one here locally, but they are all across the country in but they are all across the country in but they are all across the country in the US. Um there's a lot of different the US. Um there's a lot of different the US. Um there's a lot of different places that have similar things set up, places that have similar things set up, places that have similar things set up, but in particular, this one had but in particular, this one had but in particular, this one had everything in one place, which I really everything in one place, which I really everything in one place, which I really loved. loved. loved. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so anyway, I was learning about all >> And so anyway, I was learning about all >> And so anyway, I was learning about all this biohacking and just like mood and

this biohacking and just like mood and this biohacking and just like mood and energy stuff that I was trying to energy stuff that I was trying to energy stuff that I was trying to practice to see, you know, if it could practice to see, you know, if it could practice to see, you know, if it could help cuz my medication wasn't working. help cuz my medication wasn't working. help cuz my medication wasn't working. Again, this was like a couple years ago. Again, this was like a couple years ago. Again, this was like a couple years ago. So that's how I met you more than she So that's how I met you more than she So that's how I met you more than she did therapies. did therapies. did therapies. >> We ended up connecting. We got so much >> We ended up connecting. We got so much >> We ended up connecting. We got so much in common. we were at like the same in common. we were at like the same in common. we were at like the same stage of life, you know, our kids stage of life, you know, our kids stage of life, you know, our kids getting older. getting older. getting older. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And um you were so inspiring because you >> And um you were so inspiring because you >> And um you were so inspiring because you would share like the benefits for you would share like the benefits for you would share like the benefits for you and then that helped me realize like and then that helped me realize like and then that helped me realize like >> what to notice like look for because >> what to notice like look for because >> what to notice like look for because sometimes it's hard to evaluate these sometimes it's hard to evaluate these sometimes it's hard to evaluate these things like are they working? Are they things like are they working? Are they things like are they working? Are they not? not? not? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, we're going to start today >> So anyway, we're going to start today >> So anyway, we're going to start today talking about red light therapy. talking about red light therapy. talking about red light therapy. >> Yeah. One of my faves. >> Yeah. One of my faves. >> Yeah. One of my faves. >> It's one of your favorites. Um and so >> It's one of your favorites. Um and so >> It's one of your favorites. Um and so why don't we go ahead and explain tell why don't we go ahead and explain tell why don't we go ahead and explain tell us a little bit about red light therapy? us a little bit about red light therapy? us a little bit about red light therapy? So red light therapy is to me one of the So red light therapy is to me one of the So red light therapy is to me one of the easiest non-invasive snuggly it feels easiest non-invasive snuggly it feels easiest non-invasive snuggly it feels good when you do it therapies and good when you do it therapies and good when you do it therapies and they're all over. You could go lay in they're all over. You could go lay in they're all over. You could go lay in red light therapy beds. You can stand in red light therapy beds. You can stand in red light therapy beds. You can stand in red light panels. You can buy countertop red light panels. You can buy countertop red light panels. You can buy countertop red light therapy for your just your

red light therapy for your just your red light therapy for your just your face. We have in Restore we have the face. We have in Restore we have the face. We have in Restore we have the wellness center that I work at. We have wellness center that I work at. We have wellness center that I work at. We have two large panels and you stand between two large panels and you stand between two large panels and you stand between them. You get undressed till you're them. You get undressed till you're them. You get undressed till you're comfortable. Some people like to wear comfortable. Some people like to wear comfortable. Some people like to wear their undergarments. I take off their undergarments. I take off their undergarments. I take off everything. It's been very therapeutic. everything. It's been very therapeutic. everything. It's been very therapeutic. they've shown in men to expose the male they've shown in men to expose the male they've shown in men to expose the male parts to that red light. So, you stand parts to that red light. So, you stand parts to that red light. So, you stand between the two red light panels, we between the two red light panels, we between the two red light panels, we turn them on, you stand there, you're in turn them on, you stand there, you're in turn them on, you stand there, you're in there for like 10 to 15 minutes. You there for like 10 to 15 minutes. You there for like 10 to 15 minutes. You don't need longer than that. It's shown don't need longer than that. It's shown don't need longer than that. It's shown that that is optimal. And then it turns that that is optimal. And then it turns that that is optimal. And then it turns off and you're done. And in that 10 to off and you're done. And in that 10 to off and you're done. And in that 10 to 15 minutes, the red, it's a red and near 15 minutes, the red, it's a red and near 15 minutes, the red, it's a red and near infrared light and it penetrates to infrared light and it penetrates to infrared light and it penetrates to mitochondrial level. So, the thought mitochondrial level. So, the thought mitochondrial level. So, the thought behind that is to regenerate cells so behind that is to regenerate cells so behind that is to regenerate cells so that you have better like skin that you have better like skin that you have better like skin appearance. It helps with muscle appearance. It helps with muscle appearance. It helps with muscle recovery. So, if you're sore from recovery. So, if you're sore from recovery. So, if you're sore from workouts or you are planning to do a big workouts or you are planning to do a big workouts or you are planning to do a big something or other, come in beforehand, something or other, come in beforehand, something or other, come in beforehand, come in afterwards. Um, it helps boost come in afterwards. Um, it helps boost come in afterwards. Um, it helps boost your mood. Definitely, it's just one of your mood. Definitely, it's just one of your mood. Definitely, it's just one of the easiest therapies that we have in the easiest therapies that we have in the easiest therapies that we have in Restore to do quick, easy, painf free,

Restore to do quick, easy, painf free, Restore to do quick, easy, painf free, which is great. Nobody wants to do which is great. Nobody wants to do which is great. Nobody wants to do anything that's hurts, right? So, it's anything that's hurts, right? So, it's anything that's hurts, right? So, it's amazing. I love it. amazing. I love it. amazing. I love it. >> And I think some of the ways all of >> And I think some of the ways all of >> And I think some of the ways all of these work is reducing inflammation. these work is reducing inflammation. these work is reducing inflammation. >> I meant Yes. And that's why I brought >> I meant Yes. And that's why I brought >> I meant Yes. And that's why I brought these notes. You should always know these notes. You should always know these notes. You should always know inflammation is the big one and I think inflammation is the big one and I think inflammation is the big one and I think that for me personally, I don't know how that for me personally, I don't know how that for me personally, I don't know how I missed that. Inflammation is the big I missed that. Inflammation is the big I missed that. Inflammation is the big one. I had a torn tendon in my foot when one. I had a torn tendon in my foot when one. I had a torn tendon in my foot when I was with the client there and I kept I was with the client there and I kept I was with the client there and I kept going in and I would literally just put going in and I would literally just put going in and I would literally just put my foot on the red light cuz I was like, my foot on the red light cuz I was like, my foot on the red light cuz I was like, it's got to work, right? So, I put it it's got to work, right? So, I put it it's got to work, right? So, I put it directly on the red light, which you directly on the red light, which you directly on the red light, which you don't have to do, but that was my crazy don't have to do, but that was my crazy don't have to do, but that was my crazy crazy way of doing it. And it literally crazy way of doing it. And it literally crazy way of doing it. And it literally pushed off my surgery for about 2 years. pushed off my surgery for about 2 years. pushed off my surgery for about 2 years. I was just didn't want to have surgery, I was just didn't want to have surgery, I was just didn't want to have surgery, but it just kept the inflammation down but it just kept the inflammation down but it just kept the inflammation down enough. And then I ended up in all enough. And then I ended up in all enough. And then I ended up in all transparency getting my own red light transparency getting my own red light transparency getting my own red light panels at the house, which I love. I use panels at the house, which I love. I use panels at the house, which I love. I use twice a day and it's changed my skin twice a day and it's changed my skin twice a day and it's changed my skin appearance. I like But anyways, yeah, appearance. I like But anyways, yeah, appearance. I like But anyways, yeah, the inflammation is a big one. And if the inflammation is a big one. And if the inflammation is a big one. And if you feel better, you're not inflamed, you feel better, you're not inflamed, you feel better, you're not inflamed, you're going to feel better, you're going to feel better, you're going to feel better, >> right? And inflammation is so connected >> right? And inflammation is so connected >> right? And inflammation is so connected to mood. I mean, that's what we've, you to mood. I mean, that's what we've, you to mood. I mean, that's what we've, you know, learned in terms of any know, learned in terms of any know, learned in terms of any inflammation in your body, in your brain

inflammation in your body, in your brain inflammation in your body, in your brain is going to impact your mood. So that's is going to impact your mood. So that's is going to impact your mood. So that's a huge huge benefit. a huge huge benefit. a huge huge benefit. >> Huge benefit. >> Huge benefit. >> Huge benefit. >> What are there any stories? Cuz I love >> What are there any stories? Cuz I love >> What are there any stories? Cuz I love to hear stories that you of working in to hear stories that you of working in to hear stories that you of working in this area. this area. this area. >> So many stories. So we have a lot of >> So many stories. So we have a lot of >> So many stories. So we have a lot of people that use it in the similar way people that use it in the similar way people that use it in the similar way that I started with pain, you know, just that I started with pain, you know, just that I started with pain, you know, just coming in for sore muscles, torn coming in for sore muscles, torn coming in for sore muscles, torn shoulders, torn knees, whatever it is. shoulders, torn knees, whatever it is. shoulders, torn knees, whatever it is. But I just have a little story. And it's But I just have a little story. And it's But I just have a little story. And it's also good for skin health. I wasn't bit also good for skin health. I wasn't bit also good for skin health. I wasn't bit by a dog when I was a client there. The by a dog when I was a client there. The by a dog when I was a client there. The dog kind of came after my dog. I got in dog kind of came after my dog. I got in dog kind of came after my dog. I got in the way. It bit me here in the chest. I the way. It bit me here in the chest. I the way. It bit me here in the chest. I had three puncture wounds and a large had three puncture wounds and a large had three puncture wounds and a large scrape from a tooth. And I was like, scrape from a tooth. And I was like, scrape from a tooth. And I was like, "Oh, great. Right here in my chest. I'm "Oh, great. Right here in my chest. I'm "Oh, great. Right here in my chest. I'm going to have a scar, blah, blah, blah, going to have a scar, blah, blah, blah, going to have a scar, blah, blah, blah, whatever." And at the time, again, I was whatever." And at the time, again, I was whatever." And at the time, again, I was a client, so they're like, "Oh, go in a client, so they're like, "Oh, go in a client, so they're like, "Oh, go in the red light. That'll be the best. Cryo the red light. That'll be the best. Cryo the red light. That'll be the best. Cryo and red light. Go in the cryo red and red light. Go in the cryo red and red light. Go in the cryo red light." So, I did the red light. And I light." So, I did the red light. And I light." So, I did the red light. And I have nothing. And I would go in two, have nothing. And I would go in two, have nothing. And I would go in two, three times a week. I was wasn't going three times a week. I was wasn't going three times a week. I was wasn't going every day, you know, I didn't have it in every day, you know, I didn't have it in every day, you know, I didn't have it in my house. And I have no scar, no marks, my house. And I have no scar, no marks, my house. And I have no scar, no marks, no nothing. And I'm at the time was 53. no nothing. And I'm at the time was 53. no nothing. And I'm at the time was 53. So, I thought for sure there's no way So, I thought for sure there's no way So, I thought for sure there's no way it's going to heal. It's a great. So,

it's going to heal. It's a great. So, it's going to heal. It's a great. So, just a little testimony of like wound just a little testimony of like wound just a little testimony of like wound healing. Doctors are recommending now healing. Doctors are recommending now healing. Doctors are recommending now that people go in after surgeries for that people go in after surgeries for that people go in after surgeries for wound healing as far as wound healing as far as wound healing as far as >> we'll put in the show notes, but there's >> we'll put in the show notes, but there's >> we'll put in the show notes, but there's places like Restore. We'll put that in places like Restore. We'll put that in places like Restore. We'll put that in the show notes, but there's that that the show notes, but there's that that the show notes, but there's that that you can go and drop in a couple times a you can go and drop in a couple times a you can go and drop in a couple times a week to use it. Yeah. week to use it. Yeah. week to use it. Yeah. >> Or there's, you know, varying levels of >> Or there's, you know, varying levels of >> Or there's, you know, varying levels of panels that you could buy and purchase panels that you could buy and purchase panels that you could buy and purchase to have your home. to have your home. to have your home. >> Yeah. Yeah, if you can afford the >> Yeah. Yeah, if you can afford the >> Yeah. Yeah, if you can afford the medical grade ones like they have there medical grade ones like they have there medical grade ones like they have there like I purchased, I mean, I would say like I purchased, I mean, I would say like I purchased, I mean, I would say honestly it's probably you're going to honestly it's probably you're going to honestly it's probably you're going to spend two grand for the panels if you spend two grand for the panels if you spend two grand for the panels if you want the good ones. If not, you can get want the good ones. If not, you can get want the good ones. If not, you can get a countertop one for a couple hundred. a countertop one for a couple hundred. a countertop one for a couple hundred. You can get the mask if you're just You can get the mask if you're just You can get the mask if you're just worried about your face and neck. Those worried about your face and neck. Those worried about your face and neck. Those are great, too. It depends on what are great, too. It depends on what are great, too. It depends on what you're looking for. you're looking for. you're looking for. >> Well, let's move into talking about the >> Well, let's move into talking about the >> Well, let's move into talking about the So, at Restore, they have a cryotherapy, So, at Restore, they have a cryotherapy, So, at Restore, they have a cryotherapy, but a lot of people are also doing cold but a lot of people are also doing cold but a lot of people are also doing cold plunge. Basically, the concept is, you plunge. Basically, the concept is, you plunge. Basically, the concept is, you know, the light and the heat and the know, the light and the heat and the know, the light and the heat and the cold are all contrasting ways of kind of cold are all contrasting ways of kind of cold are all contrasting ways of kind of shocking the body shocking the body shocking the body >> into these different states that benefit

>> into these different states that benefit >> into these different states that benefit wellness in many different ways. So, why wellness in many different ways. So, why wellness in many different ways. So, why don't you share a little bit about don't you share a little bit about don't you share a little bit about cryotherapy and then I actually have a cryotherapy and then I actually have a cryotherapy and then I actually have a cold plunge so I can cold plunge so I can cold plunge so I can >> I have never done a cold plunge but I >> I have never done a cold plunge but I >> I have never done a cold plunge but I love Okay. I love hate relationship with love Okay. I love hate relationship with love Okay. I love hate relationship with cryotherapy to be totally honest. I hate cryotherapy to be totally honest. I hate cryotherapy to be totally honest. I hate it but I love the benefits so I do it. it but I love the benefits so I do it. it but I love the benefits so I do it. >> Everyone hates it. It's like certain >> Everyone hates it. It's like certain >> Everyone hates it. It's like certain things. Nobody likes being that cold. things. Nobody likes being that cold. things. Nobody likes being that cold. It's awful. But it is one of my f I It's awful. But it is one of my f I It's awful. But it is one of my f I always say that it's one of my favorite always say that it's one of my favorite always say that it's one of my favorite things, but it's just it's amazing. The things, but it's just it's amazing. The things, but it's just it's amazing. The results are amazing. results are amazing. results are amazing. >> It is a size of an outhouse at Restore >> It is a size of an outhouse at Restore >> It is a size of an outhouse at Restore Hyper Wellness. There's two different Hyper Wellness. There's two different Hyper Wellness. There's two different types that we have actually at our types that we have actually at our types that we have actually at our wellness centers. We have some at like wellness centers. We have some at like wellness centers. We have some at like in Mission VJO, they have a walk-in in Mission VJO, they have a walk-in in Mission VJO, they have a walk-in where multiple people can go in at the where multiple people can go in at the where multiple people can go in at the same time. It's powered by fans and it's same time. It's powered by fans and it's same time. It's powered by fans and it's cold that way. It is not as cold as the cold that way. It is not as cold as the cold that way. It is not as cold as the nitrogen gas one that we have at Laguna nitrogen gas one that we have at Laguna nitrogen gas one that we have at Laguna and Niguel. So, we have one that's and Niguel. So, we have one that's and Niguel. So, we have one that's shaped like an outhouse. It has a shaped like an outhouse. It has a shaped like an outhouse. It has a magnetic door that you open. You walk in magnetic door that you open. You walk in magnetic door that you open. You walk in and you start at first of all, let me and you start at first of all, let me and you start at first of all, let me back up. You go in a room and you back up. You go in a room and you back up. You go in a room and you undress and you leave your undergarments undress and you leave your undergarments undress and you leave your undergarments on. You can wear a robe cuz, you know,

on. You can wear a robe cuz, you know, on. You can wear a robe cuz, you know, starting out it is pretty cold, but you starting out it is pretty cold, but you starting out it is pretty cold, but you have to wear gloves, slippers, and socks have to wear gloves, slippers, and socks have to wear gloves, slippers, and socks to protect your limbs. Yeah. Because it to protect your limbs. Yeah. Because it to protect your limbs. Yeah. Because it does get very cold. Um, and then you does get very cold. Um, and then you does get very cold. Um, and then you step into this chamber and you're in step into this chamber and you're in step into this chamber and you're in there starting at 2 minutes. Beginner there starting at 2 minutes. Beginner there starting at 2 minutes. Beginner level starting 2 minutes. It starts at level starting 2 minutes. It starts at level starting 2 minutes. It starts at 165 degrees Fahrenheit, which seems 165 degrees Fahrenheit, which seems 165 degrees Fahrenheit, which seems absolutely insane. It's pretty cold, but absolutely insane. It's pretty cold, but absolutely insane. It's pretty cold, but you know, you can do anything for two you know, you can do anything for two you know, you can do anything for two minutes. You can do anything for two minutes. You can do anything for two minutes. You can do anything for two minutes. You're fine. minutes. You're fine. minutes. You're fine. >> And you guys have this music that you >> And you guys have this music that you >> And you guys have this music that you play. play. play. >> Oh, you can play any song you want. >> Oh, you can play any song you want. >> Oh, you can play any song you want. >> So helpful because >> So helpful because >> So helpful because >> Oh, yeah. I dance in there. They say >> Oh, yeah. I dance in there. They say >> Oh, yeah. I dance in there. They say it's optimal to sit still and hold it's optimal to sit still and hold it's optimal to sit still and hold still, but you get benefits either way. still, but you get benefits either way. still, but you get benefits either way. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Um, some people go in there with no >> Um, some people go in there with no >> Um, some people go in there with no music and just zen breathe the entire music and just zen breathe the entire music and just zen breathe the entire time, which is amazing. You do whatever time, which is amazing. You do whatever time, which is amazing. You do whatever you need to do, boo, to get through it. you need to do, boo, to get through it. you need to do, boo, to get through it. Picking the song is actually the hardest Picking the song is actually the hardest Picking the song is actually the hardest part of cryo for me personally. Anyway, part of cryo for me personally. Anyway, part of cryo for me personally. Anyway, so you stand in there and I'm at a level so you stand in there and I'm at a level so you stand in there and I'm at a level now where I do the top cold, which is now where I do the top cold, which is now where I do the top cold, which is -220° F, but I only do 2 minutes and 30 -220° F, but I only do 2 minutes and 30 -220° F, but I only do 2 minutes and 30 seconds cuz your goal when you go into seconds cuz your goal when you go into seconds cuz your goal when you go into cryotherapy is we take your temp, your cryotherapy is we take your temp, your cryotherapy is we take your temp, your outside skin temp, and let's say it's outside skin temp, and let's say it's outside skin temp, and let's say it's 88°. When you come out, you want to drop

88°. When you come out, you want to drop 88°. When you come out, you want to drop minimal 30. So when we take your outside minimal 30. So when we take your outside minimal 30. So when we take your outside skin temp, when you get out, you want to skin temp, when you get out, you want to skin temp, when you get out, you want to be minimal 58. Optimally, you'd love to be minimal 58. Optimally, you'd love to be minimal 58. Optimally, you'd love to be in the 40s because that's when you're be in the 40s because that's when you're be in the 40s because that's when you're getting the maximum benefits. If you getting the maximum benefits. If you getting the maximum benefits. If you start to drop below that, then it's start to drop below that, then it's start to drop below that, then it's almost reverse trauma to your body. almost reverse trauma to your body. almost reverse trauma to your body. >> So, they say you want to stay mid-40s or >> So, they say you want to stay mid-40s or >> So, they say you want to stay mid-40s or above to get in that sweet spot. above to get in that sweet spot. above to get in that sweet spot. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So that you reduce inflammation, you >> So that you reduce inflammation, you >> So that you reduce inflammation, you have total mood booster. Like if you have total mood booster. Like if you have total mood booster. Like if you want to jolt in the afternoon instead of want to jolt in the afternoon instead of want to jolt in the afternoon instead of coffee, jump in cryo. Yeah. coffee, jump in cryo. Yeah. coffee, jump in cryo. Yeah. >> Um I don't do it late at night for that >> Um I don't do it late at night for that >> Um I don't do it late at night for that reason because it does give me a lot of reason because it does give me a lot of reason because it does give me a lot of energy. The feelgood benefit is just energy. The feelgood benefit is just energy. The feelgood benefit is just amazing. Let me just make sure in my amazing. Let me just make sure in my amazing. Let me just make sure in my notes that I'm not missing anything for notes that I'm not missing anything for notes that I'm not missing anything for the cryo. Oh, athletic recovery. We have the cryo. Oh, athletic recovery. We have the cryo. Oh, athletic recovery. We have a lot of athletes that come in. a lot of athletes that come in. a lot of athletes that come in. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Pre or post. And the studies are finding >> Pre or post. And the studies are finding >> Pre or post. And the studies are finding now that doing it pre-workout is better. now that doing it pre-workout is better. now that doing it pre-workout is better. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Than post-workout because you're >> Than post-workout because you're >> Than post-workout because you're prepping the muscles instead of trying prepping the muscles instead of trying prepping the muscles instead of trying to fix what was damaged. to fix what was damaged. to fix what was damaged. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I mean, in the short in the short, >> I mean, in the short in the short, >> I mean, in the short in the short, right? right? right? >> I know a lot of sports teams are using >> I know a lot of sports teams are using >> I know a lot of sports teams are using it now. I mean, it's kind of a common it now. I mean, it's kind of a common it now. I mean, it's kind of a common >> It's totally Yeah. boosting energy,

>> It's totally Yeah. boosting energy, >> It's totally Yeah. boosting energy, mood, and sleep um is great, but again, mood, and sleep um is great, but again, mood, and sleep um is great, but again, I wouldn't do it too late in the I wouldn't do it too late in the I wouldn't do it too late in the afternoon. I did, so you're always afternoon. I did, so you're always afternoon. I did, so you're always asking about my own personal things. So, asking about my own personal things. So, asking about my own personal things. So, last April, I did a 30-day challenge for last April, I did a 30-day challenge for last April, I did a 30-day challenge for myself for cryo because not last, it was myself for cryo because not last, it was myself for cryo because not last, it was actually 2024. I did a 30-day challenge actually 2024. I did a 30-day challenge actually 2024. I did a 30-day challenge and I was like, I want to see what it and I was like, I want to see what it and I was like, I want to see what it would be like to go in every day for 30 would be like to go in every day for 30 would be like to go in every day for 30 days. So, I can tell people honestly days. So, I can tell people honestly days. So, I can tell people honestly like you don't have to do it every day, like you don't have to do it every day, like you don't have to do it every day, but if you did, this is what you can do. but if you did, this is what you can do. but if you did, this is what you can do. By day nine, I was like, "Wow, getting By day nine, I was like, "Wow, getting By day nine, I was like, "Wow, getting out of bed, I felt great." And I it just out of bed, I felt great." And I it just out of bed, I felt great." And I it just felt better. The inflammation was nearly felt better. The inflammation was nearly felt better. The inflammation was nearly gone. gone. gone. >> Of course, >> Of course, >> Of course, >> day 30, it was I felt incredible. But >> day 30, it was I felt incredible. But >> day 30, it was I felt incredible. But realistically, nobody's going to go realistically, nobody's going to go realistically, nobody's going to go every day. That's that's insane, right? every day. That's that's insane, right? every day. That's that's insane, right? That's insanity. That's insanity. That's insanity. >> But if you can go two to three times a >> But if you can go two to three times a >> But if you can go two to three times a week, week, week, >> super beneficial. >> super beneficial. >> super beneficial. >> And that's one thing that if they ever >> And that's one thing that if they ever >> And that's one thing that if they ever started doing home versions of started doing home versions of started doing home versions of cryotherapy, I would buy that, too. cryotherapy, I would buy that, too. cryotherapy, I would buy that, too. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I love it cuz cold plunge is just not my >> I love it cuz cold plunge is just not my >> I love it cuz cold plunge is just not my thing. I don't want to get all this hair thing. I don't want to get all this hair thing. I don't want to get all this hair wet. It's a lot to do, right? So, wet. It's a lot to do, right? So, wet. It's a lot to do, right? So, >> okay. You don't have to go all the way >> okay. You don't have to go all the way >> okay. You don't have to go all the way under under under >> anyways. Yeah. >> anyways. Yeah. >> anyways. Yeah. >> I mean, the cryo I started with when I

>> I mean, the cryo I started with when I >> I mean, the cryo I started with when I was there just trying it out and it was was there just trying it out and it was was there just trying it out and it was the same thing where it was I mean, the same thing where it was I mean, the same thing where it was I mean, honestly, it was really hard to adapt honestly, it was really hard to adapt honestly, it was really hard to adapt to. Like, it's freezing and very to. Like, it's freezing and very to. Like, it's freezing and very uncomfortable, but like you said, the uncomfortable, but like you said, the uncomfortable, but like you said, the energy boost is so incredible. energy boost is so incredible. energy boost is so incredible. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so, I ended up buying a cold plunge >> And so, I ended up buying a cold plunge >> And so, I ended up buying a cold plunge and I'll put the the type that I got. and I'll put the the type that I got. and I'll put the the type that I got. And um you can either add ice, which is And um you can either add ice, which is And um you can either add ice, which is obviously a lot to do. So I ended up obviously a lot to do. So I ended up obviously a lot to do. So I ended up getting a temperature cooler and so that getting a temperature cooler and so that getting a temperature cooler and so that actually helped a lot too. actually helped a lot too. actually helped a lot too. >> So I mean it goes down I don't know >> So I mean it goes down I don't know >> So I mean it goes down I don't know actually how low it goes but I mean so actually how low it goes but I mean so actually how low it goes but I mean so for men it's recommended I mean can go for men it's recommended I mean can go for men it's recommended I mean can go down to 32. Yeah, they can go a lot down to 32. Yeah, they can go a lot down to 32. Yeah, they can go a lot colder. So for women they they're colder. So for women they they're colder. So for women they they're recommending like 42°. recommending like 42°. recommending like 42°. >> Okay. So that's what I put it at and I >> Okay. So that's what I put it at and I >> Okay. So that's what I put it at and I but for me like first thing in the but for me like first thing in the but for me like first thing in the morning after I work out is when I go in morning after I work out is when I go in morning after I work out is when I go in and it does just like set my energy for and it does just like set my energy for and it does just like set my energy for the day. the day. the day. >> And you know again like not everybody >> And you know again like not everybody >> And you know again like not everybody can afford a cryo or a cold plunch in can afford a cryo or a cold plunch in can afford a cryo or a cold plunch in their home. So if you can't let me just their home. So if you can't let me just their home. So if you can't let me just give you a quick little like

give you a quick little like give you a quick little like >> if you can just first thing in the >> if you can just first thing in the >> if you can just first thing in the morning morning morning >> no get a big bowl fill it with ice water >> no get a big bowl fill it with ice water >> no get a big bowl fill it with ice water put your hair back if you're a woman put put your hair back if you're a woman put put your hair back if you're a woman put your face in it for as long as you can your face in it for as long as you can your face in it for as long as you can and come out your mood will be boosted. and come out your mood will be boosted. and come out your mood will be boosted. That's a great way to do that. That's a great way to do that. That's a great way to do that. >> So, it's a great and it >> So, it's a great and it >> So, it's a great and it >> the other thing people recommend is >> the other thing people recommend is >> the other thing people recommend is doing the like cold shower at the end of doing the like cold shower at the end of doing the like cold shower at the end of a hot shower. a hot shower. a hot shower. >> That actually is very difficult. I would >> That actually is very difficult. I would >> That actually is very difficult. I would find the cold punch easier find the cold punch easier find the cold punch easier >> because you're already adapted to the >> because you're already adapted to the >> because you're already adapted to the heat. So, then the cold is kind of a heat. So, then the cold is kind of a heat. So, then the cold is kind of a shock. shock. shock. >> But the whole point is that you're >> But the whole point is that you're >> But the whole point is that you're shocking your nervous system shocking your nervous system shocking your nervous system >> and it's waking you up to an extent. But >> and it's waking you up to an extent. But >> and it's waking you up to an extent. But also, like you said, it's going to also, like you said, it's going to also, like you said, it's going to increase mood, energy, and then it's increase mood, energy, and then it's increase mood, energy, and then it's going to improve your sleep, which is going to improve your sleep, which is going to improve your sleep, which is huge. and the lowering of inflammation. huge. and the lowering of inflammation. huge. and the lowering of inflammation. So, the one thing for me, I had a lot of So, the one thing for me, I had a lot of So, the one thing for me, I had a lot of back pain and doing the cryo and doing back pain and doing the cryo and doing back pain and doing the cryo and doing the cold plunge, it's it's non-existent. the cold plunge, it's it's non-existent. the cold plunge, it's it's non-existent. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> And so, anyway, it's Yeah, it's amazing. >> And so, anyway, it's Yeah, it's amazing. >> And so, anyway, it's Yeah, it's amazing. Are there any stories with clients with Are there any stories with clients with Are there any stories with clients with that one? that one? that one? >> Oh, yeah. So, I was going to tell you >> Oh, yeah. So, I was going to tell you >> Oh, yeah. So, I was going to tell you about this one gal. So, she's originally about this one gal. So, she's originally about this one gal. So, she's originally from New Jersey and her doctor back

from New Jersey and her doctor back from New Jersey and her doctor back there, she was a rheumatoid arthritis. there, she was a rheumatoid arthritis. there, she was a rheumatoid arthritis. She suffered severely from rheumatoid She suffered severely from rheumatoid She suffered severely from rheumatoid arthritis and she was probably about my arthritis and she was probably about my arthritis and she was probably about my age and she was almost wheelchair bound age and she was almost wheelchair bound age and she was almost wheelchair bound at this point. It just had affected her at this point. It just had affected her at this point. It just had affected her so hard and her inflammation was just so hard and her inflammation was just so hard and her inflammation was just through the roof. And he prescribed her, through the roof. And he prescribed her, through the roof. And he prescribed her, he goes, "I don't have one, but I really he goes, "I don't have one, but I really he goes, "I don't have one, but I really think you should go do cryotherapy every think you should go do cryotherapy every think you should go do cryotherapy every day. Do it for 3 months. Let's see how day. Do it for 3 months. Let's see how day. Do it for 3 months. Let's see how you're feeling after that." She did it you're feeling after that." She did it you're feeling after that." She did it for the 3 months and saw huge for the 3 months and saw huge for the 3 months and saw huge improvements. But by month four, she improvements. But by month four, she improvements. But by month four, she went every day. She was out of the went every day. She was out of the went every day. She was out of the wheelchair, walking, hiking, like not wheelchair, walking, hiking, like not wheelchair, walking, hiking, like not playing tennis or anything crazy or playing tennis or anything crazy or playing tennis or anything crazy or balance, but she was out of the balance, but she was out of the balance, but she was out of the wheelchair. That is incredible. wheelchair. That is incredible. wheelchair. That is incredible. >> So I mean that's lifechanging. Yeah. >> So I mean that's lifechanging. Yeah. >> So I mean that's lifechanging. Yeah. >> And so she moved here. The way I met her >> And so she moved here. The way I met her >> And so she moved here. The way I met her is that she had moved to Orange County. is that she had moved to Orange County. is that she had moved to Orange County. She started coming to our studio. Yeah. She started coming to our studio. Yeah. She started coming to our studio. Yeah. >> And she was telling me the story and I >> And she was telling me the story and I >> And she was telling me the story and I was in tears. I was like I mean these was in tears. I was like I mean these was in tears. I was like I mean these things work. Right. things work. Right. things work. Right. >> Right. So I think depending on what >> Right. So I think depending on what >> Right. So I think depending on what you're trying to fix, how acute it is or you're trying to fix, how acute it is or you're trying to fix, how acute it is or how big it is is all the difference in how big it is is all the difference in how big it is is all the difference in the world for your recovery. Yes.

the world for your recovery. Yes. the world for your recovery. Yes. >> So she still comes twice a week just to >> So she still comes twice a week just to >> So she still comes twice a week just to maintain sometimes three times a week maintain sometimes three times a week maintain sometimes three times a week and she's she's doing amazing. I don't and she's she's doing amazing. I don't and she's she's doing amazing. I don't know that that's amazing. know that that's amazing. know that that's amazing. >> That's incredible. I mean that is a big >> That's incredible. I mean that is a big >> That's incredible. I mean that is a big story. Why is it that again traditional story. Why is it that again traditional story. Why is it that again traditional health doctors are not recommending this health doctors are not recommending this health doctors are not recommending this but the alternative medicine people like but the alternative medicine people like but the alternative medicine people like really get the benefits of all these really get the benefits of all these really get the benefits of all these things and things and things and >> what do you think that is? They should >> what do you think that is? They should >> what do you think that is? They should know by now that hey they all of a know by now that hey they all of a know by now that hey they all of a sudden go into this but it's just sudden go into this but it's just sudden go into this but it's just frustrating to me. frustrating to me. frustrating to me. >> It's so frustrating. But I think the >> It's so frustrating. But I think the >> It's so frustrating. But I think the thing is that more and more people are thing is that more and more people are thing is that more and more people are talking about it. More and more podcasts talking about it. More and more podcasts talking about it. More and more podcasts are talking about it. So, I'm hoping are talking about it. So, I'm hoping are talking about it. So, I'm hoping there'll be more of a blend of western there'll be more of a blend of western there'll be more of a blend of western and alternative medicine eventually, but and alternative medicine eventually, but and alternative medicine eventually, but if there's not, people just need to be if there's not, people just need to be if there's not, people just need to be their own advocates and search out. I their own advocates and search out. I their own advocates and search out. I mean, chhat GPT lately. You can just mean, chhat GPT lately. You can just mean, chhat GPT lately. You can just search what can I do for back pain and search what can I do for back pain and search what can I do for back pain and it will give you western to alternative it will give you western to alternative it will give you western to alternative to rai mushrooms. I mean, it'll give you to rai mushrooms. I mean, it'll give you to rai mushrooms. I mean, it'll give you every option. So, people just have to every option. So, people just have to every option. So, people just have to search. It's out there. search. It's out there. search. It's out there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. But some people don't know. So, >> Right. But some people don't know. So, >> Right. But some people don't know. So, and that's why you and I are here. and that's why you and I are here. and that's why you and I are here. >> And that's why we were excited to do >> And that's why we were excited to do >> And that's why we were excited to do this just to educate again like Yeah.

this just to educate again like Yeah. this just to educate again like Yeah. But we want to blend the two. I mean, But we want to blend the two. I mean, But we want to blend the two. I mean, the western and eastern, but also like the western and eastern, but also like the western and eastern, but also like these types of things are really, really these types of things are really, really these types of things are really, really beneficial. And when you have a story beneficial. And when you have a story beneficial. And when you have a story like that, it's incredible. like that, it's incredible. like that, it's incredible. >> It's incredible. But I play a lot of >> It's incredible. But I play a lot of >> It's incredible. But I play a lot of pickle ball. A lot of pickle ball pickle ball. A lot of pickle ball pickle ball. A lot of pickle ball >> and I'm pretty competitive. So, I'm >> and I'm pretty competitive. So, I'm >> and I'm pretty competitive. So, I'm >> Isn't everyone that plays? >> Isn't everyone that plays? >> Isn't everyone that plays? >> No, I feel like they are. >> No, I feel like they are. >> No, I feel like they are. >> I tried playing and I was like, it's too >> I tried playing and I was like, it's too >> I tried playing and I was like, it's too competitive. competitive. competitive. >> There's a difference between playing >> There's a difference between playing >> There's a difference between playing pickup ball and really playing ball. But pickup ball and really playing ball. But pickup ball and really playing ball. But um anyway, so I talk to a lot of people um anyway, so I talk to a lot of people um anyway, so I talk to a lot of people and I'm always bringing flyers for and I'm always bringing flyers for and I'm always bringing flyers for Restore because I want people to feel Restore because I want people to feel Restore because I want people to feel good, you know, and just to be totally good, you know, and just to be totally good, you know, and just to be totally honest, these people that I play pickle honest, these people that I play pickle honest, these people that I play pickle ball with, they're 70 with knee braces ball with, they're 70 with knee braces ball with, they're 70 with knee braces and they're kicking my ass, and they're kicking my ass, and they're kicking my ass, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I mean, they're great, >> I mean, they're great, >> I mean, they're great, >> but they've got ailments and everybody's >> but they've got ailments and everybody's >> but they've got ailments and everybody's got brand, you know, stuff on. And so got brand, you know, stuff on. And so got brand, you know, stuff on. And so I'm always passing out flyers and people I'm always passing out flyers and people I'm always passing out flyers and people like, "Oh, I've tried them." Like, have like, "Oh, I've tried them." Like, have like, "Oh, I've tried them." Like, have you really though tried this one? you really though tried this one? you really though tried this one? Because they've like, "Oh, I bought the Because they've like, "Oh, I bought the Because they've like, "Oh, I bought the little handheld off Amazon." There's a little handheld off Amazon." There's a little handheld off Amazon." There's a difference. Okay, that's difference. Okay, that's difference. Okay, that's >> the red light you buy on Amazon for $20 >> the red light you buy on Amazon for $20 >> the red light you buy on Amazon for $20 and our $3,000 panel grade panels. So,

and our $3,000 panel grade panels. So, and our $3,000 panel grade panels. So, just be careful of the scams and the just be careful of the scams and the just be careful of the scams and the stuff on Tik Tok or Instagram. And stuff on Tik Tok or Instagram. And stuff on Tik Tok or Instagram. And >> yes, >> yes, >> yes, >> some of them do work. I mean, not I >> some of them do work. I mean, not I >> some of them do work. I mean, not I mean, the little face ones, they might mean, the little face ones, they might mean, the little face ones, they might work a little bit, right? And the worst work a little bit, right? And the worst work a little bit, right? And the worst the best case scenario, you're doing the best case scenario, you're doing the best case scenario, you're doing lymph drainage, right? But so, just be lymph drainage, right? But so, just be lymph drainage, right? But so, just be careful is all I'm saying about what careful is all I'm saying about what careful is all I'm saying about what you're buying. you're buying. you're buying. >> That's a really good point. Okay. >> That's a really good point. Okay. >> That's a really good point. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we're going to move into >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we're going to move into >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we're going to move into talking about the sauna, which um saunas talking about the sauna, which um saunas talking about the sauna, which um saunas have been around for thousands of years. have been around for thousands of years. have been around for thousands of years. I mean, we know there's benefits with I mean, we know there's benefits with I mean, we know there's benefits with sweating sweating sweating >> for sure >> for sure >> for sure >> for detoxification. And so, I don't know >> for detoxification. And so, I don't know >> for detoxification. And so, I don't know when like the red light sauna got when like the red light sauna got when like the red light sauna got evolved, but we're going to talk about evolved, but we're going to talk about evolved, but we're going to talk about just briefly the differences with the just briefly the differences with the just briefly the differences with the what would you say the main differences what would you say the main differences what would you say the main differences are? are? are? >> Yeah. So, we have at our wellness >> Yeah. So, we have at our wellness >> Yeah. So, we have at our wellness center, we have infrared sauna. Yeah. center, we have infrared sauna. Yeah. center, we have infrared sauna. Yeah. And the infrared panels that are in the And the infrared panels that are in the And the infrared panels that are in the sauna itself, it's a cedar based sauna. sauna itself, it's a cedar based sauna. sauna itself, it's a cedar based sauna. The thought behind it is that your skin, The thought behind it is that your skin, The thought behind it is that your skin, the more skin you expose, then you're the more skin you expose, then you're the more skin you expose, then you're expecting the red light heats you up on expecting the red light heats you up on expecting the red light heats you up on your skin. It's not the heat, the hot in your skin. It's not the heat, the hot in your skin. It's not the heat, the hot in the sauna, it's the heat penetrating the sauna, it's the heat penetrating the sauna, it's the heat penetrating your skin. I think they're both great. I your skin. I think they're both great. I your skin. I think they're both great. I think they both have the same result of

think they both have the same result of think they both have the same result of clearing toxins and heavy metals from clearing toxins and heavy metals from clearing toxins and heavy metals from your body. And if you're clearing those your body. And if you're clearing those your body. And if you're clearing those from your body, you're going to have an from your body, you're going to have an from your body, you're going to have an increased health overall. You're going increased health overall. You're going increased health overall. You're going to have better mood. You're not going to to have better mood. You're not going to to have better mood. You're not going to have the inflammation. not going to get have the inflammation. not going to get have the inflammation. not going to get these weird things that are coming up these weird things that are coming up these weird things that are coming up with people I think that are whether with people I think that are whether with people I think that are whether it's cancers or whether it's cardiac it's cancers or whether it's cardiac it's cancers or whether it's cardiac issues. I just think when you've cleared issues. I just think when you've cleared issues. I just think when you've cleared all those from your body, your body all those from your body, your body all those from your body, your body doesn't have to fight so hard. doesn't have to fight so hard. doesn't have to fight so hard. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Which helps your immune. >> Which helps your immune. >> Which helps your immune. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> well, and the one other difference with >> well, and the one other difference with >> well, and the one other difference with the infrared sauna versus just a regular the infrared sauna versus just a regular the infrared sauna versus just a regular sauna is is sauna is is sauna is is >> you can do lower temperatures. So, it's >> you can do lower temperatures. So, it's >> you can do lower temperatures. So, it's more between like 120 to 140 whereas more between like 120 to 140 whereas more between like 120 to 140 whereas traditional dying. traditional dying. traditional dying. >> Yeah. It you're not dying and they're >> Yeah. It you're not dying and they're >> Yeah. It you're not dying and they're they're much smaller. And so I bought a they're much smaller. And so I bought a they're much smaller. And so I bought a infrared one from my garage. I have it infrared one from my garage. I have it infrared one from my garage. I have it in the garage and it's like super small in the garage and it's like super small in the garage and it's like super small that you just sit in. And um I mean that you just sit in. And um I mean that you just sit in. And um I mean again the benefits for me I I mean it again the benefits for me I I mean it again the benefits for me I I mean it lowered my blood pressure to the point lowered my blood pressure to the point lowered my blood pressure to the point Your Your Your >> skin looks amazing. >> skin looks amazing. >> skin looks amazing. >> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, thank you. >> But it lowered my blood pressure to the >> But it lowered my blood pressure to the >> But it lowered my blood pressure to the point where I didn't need my blood point where I didn't need my blood point where I didn't need my blood pressure medication which is huge. Use pressure medication which is huge. Use pressure medication which is huge. Use it at night. It helps me sleeping. it at night. It helps me sleeping. it at night. It helps me sleeping. >> I know. It's amazing. Um, but the reason

>> I know. It's amazing. Um, but the reason >> I know. It's amazing. Um, but the reason that I got really into it was my son was that I got really into it was my son was that I got really into it was my son was exposed to mold in college. It fueled exposed to mold in college. It fueled exposed to mold in college. It fueled this autoimmune disease and the way that this autoimmune disease and the way that this autoimmune disease and the way that he detoxed from mold. he detoxed from mold. he detoxed from mold. >> Sounds like there's sirens somewhere, >> Sounds like there's sirens somewhere, >> Sounds like there's sirens somewhere, but but but >> something's going on. >> something's going on. >> something's going on. >> Something's going on. >> Something's going on. >> Something's going on. >> There's a fire. >> There's a fire. >> There's a fire. >> But yeah, I mean, the sauna was the main >> But yeah, I mean, the sauna was the main >> But yeah, I mean, the sauna was the main way that he detoxed and it was way that he detoxed and it was way that he detoxed and it was incredible for him. And I mean, he still incredible for him. And I mean, he still incredible for him. And I mean, he still swears by it and uses it all the time. swears by it and uses it all the time. swears by it and uses it all the time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> and all these that we're talking about, >> and all these that we're talking about, >> and all these that we're talking about, there's not a lot of contra indications. there's not a lot of contra indications. there's not a lot of contra indications. No. No. No. >> So, most people can use them. I'm not >> So, most people can use them. I'm not >> So, most people can use them. I'm not going to go into who can can look it up going to go into who can can look it up going to go into who can can look it up yourself, but it's pretty safe for yourself, but it's pretty safe for yourself, but it's pretty safe for everybody. everybody. everybody. >> So, with the infrared sauna, it's >> So, with the infrared sauna, it's >> So, with the infrared sauna, it's recommended at least 30 minutes to 45 recommended at least 30 minutes to 45 recommended at least 30 minutes to 45 minutes just to be able to get really minutes just to be able to get really minutes just to be able to get really detoxed, but also the infrared works at detoxed, but also the infrared works at detoxed, but also the infrared works at a mitochondrial level. a mitochondrial level. a mitochondrial level. >> And so, that's going to boost your ATP, >> And so, that's going to boost your ATP, >> And so, that's going to boost your ATP, which is going to boost your energy and which is going to boost your energy and which is going to boost your energy and your mood. So, I mean, all these kind of your mood. So, I mean, all these kind of your mood. So, I mean, all these kind of have a lot. I'd say all of them that have a lot. I'd say all of them that have a lot. I'd say all of them that we're talking about decrease we're talking about decrease we're talking about decrease inflammation massively, inflammation massively, inflammation massively, >> which is always going to increase mood

>> which is always going to increase mood >> which is always going to increase mood and energy. and energy. and energy. >> Your body's better when you're >> Your body's better when you're >> Your body's better when you're >> inflamed. And not to mention, I have >> inflamed. And not to mention, I have >> inflamed. And not to mention, I have not, and you were saying like, knock on not, and you were saying like, knock on not, and you were saying like, knock on wood, I haven't been sick of the flu. wood, I haven't been sick of the flu. wood, I haven't been sick of the flu. >> Let me put it out there in the world cuz >> Let me put it out there in the world cuz >> Let me put it out there in the world cuz now I feel like, oh, here I go. I'm now I feel like, oh, here I go. I'm now I feel like, oh, here I go. I'm going to be going to be going to be >> No, but since I started these therapies >> No, but since I started these therapies >> No, but since I started these therapies for like the last year and a half. for like the last year and a half. for like the last year and a half. >> Yeah. I haven't been sick in about two >> Yeah. I haven't been sick in about two >> Yeah. I haven't been sick in about two years. years. years. >> Well, because you think about it, it's >> Well, because you think about it, it's >> Well, because you think about it, it's cleansing all of that. I mean, part of cleansing all of that. I mean, part of cleansing all of that. I mean, part of just also being not not having these just also being not not having these just also being not not having these shocks to our system is our body's kind shocks to our system is our body's kind shocks to our system is our body's kind of a landmine for true to different of a landmine for true to different of a landmine for true to different parasites and different things, but like parasites and different things, but like parasites and different things, but like when we're detoxing that much, we're not when we're detoxing that much, we're not when we're detoxing that much, we're not going to get as sick. So, there's all going to get as sick. So, there's all going to get as sick. So, there's all these preventative benefits, too. these preventative benefits, too. these preventative benefits, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. The sauna is incredible. >> Yeah. Yeah. The sauna is incredible. >> Yeah. Yeah. The sauna is incredible. Just a little tip is at our wellness Just a little tip is at our wellness Just a little tip is at our wellness center, we have a room that you go into, center, we have a room that you go into, center, we have a room that you go into, and it's your own room. It's not like a and it's your own room. It's not like a and it's your own room. It's not like a sauna like a hot works or some of those sauna like a hot works or some of those sauna like a hot works or some of those places where everybody's got whatever places where everybody's got whatever places where everybody's got whatever sauna, but in your room, you have a sauna, but in your room, you have a sauna, but in your room, you have a shower. So, I get super hot. I love the shower. So, I get super hot. I love the shower. So, I get super hot. I love the sauna. I just get overheated sometimes. sauna. I just get overheated sometimes. sauna. I just get overheated sometimes. So, I'll step out and I'll take a cold So, I'll step out and I'll take a cold So, I'll step out and I'll take a cold shower in 10 minutes and then I'll go shower in 10 minutes and then I'll go shower in 10 minutes and then I'll go back into the sauna. So, my heart rate back into the sauna. So, my heart rate back into the sauna. So, my heart rate is jing ding ding ding ding up and down,

is jing ding ding ding ding up and down, is jing ding ding ding ding up and down, up and down. And that's even better if up and down. And that's even better if up and down. And that's even better if you can do that. you can do that. you can do that. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> Oh, yeah. It's almost like run walking. >> Oh, yeah. It's almost like run walking. >> Oh, yeah. It's almost like run walking. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Right. So, you're getting your heart >> Right. So, you're getting your heart >> Right. So, you're getting your heart rate up, you're bringing it down. Your rate up, you're bringing it down. Your rate up, you're bringing it down. Your heart rate up, you're bringing it down. heart rate up, you're bringing it down. heart rate up, you're bringing it down. >> Again, if you just sit in a sauna at a >> Again, if you just sit in a sauna at a >> Again, if you just sit in a sauna at a regular gym with 20 other people, that's regular gym with 20 other people, that's regular gym with 20 other people, that's awesome for you, too. awesome for you, too. awesome for you, too. >> Yes. So any gyms have saunas now, which >> Yes. So any gyms have saunas now, which >> Yes. So any gyms have saunas now, which is great. is great. is great. >> I mean, I did buy mine on Craigslist. >> I mean, I did buy mine on Craigslist. >> I mean, I did buy mine on Craigslist. Like there's tons being resold. So Like there's tons being resold. So Like there's tons being resold. So anyway, there's ways to get them, but anyway, there's ways to get them, but anyway, there's ways to get them, but they also I'm going to put in the show they also I'm going to put in the show they also I'm going to put in the show notes. They have these notes. They have these notes. They have these >> I you Wait, do you have that one where >> I you Wait, do you have that one where >> I you Wait, do you have that one where you sit in it and your hands are you sit in it and your hands are you sit in it and your hands are >> No. So I have one. It's almost as geeky, >> No. So I have one. It's almost as geeky, >> No. So I have one. It's almost as geeky, but mine is literally PVC pipe structure but mine is literally PVC pipe structure but mine is literally PVC pipe structure and then it has a zipped up black thing and then it has a zipped up black thing and then it has a zipped up black thing over it and it and so it has like a door over it and it and so it has like a door over it and it and so it has like a door that you unzip to open and it has a that you unzip to open and it has a that you unzip to open and it has a steam unit that comes through a little steam unit that comes through a little steam unit that comes through a little pipe into it. So I sit in it. I mean pipe into it. So I sit in it. I mean pipe into it. So I sit in it. I mean it's the size of you know little it's the size of you know little it's the size of you know little outhouse outhouse outhouse >> and it's in my garage and I sit in there >> and it's in my garage and I sit in there >> and it's in my garage and I sit in there and I do get the steam. I sweat like a and I do get the steam. I sweat like a and I do get the steam. I sweat like a crazy woman. I don't get the core heat

crazy woman. I don't get the core heat crazy woman. I don't get the core heat like I get in a real sauna. like I get in a real sauna. like I get in a real sauna. >> Okay. I my core doesn't stay hot. When I >> Okay. I my core doesn't stay hot. When I >> Okay. I my core doesn't stay hot. When I walk out, I'll stop sweating in a few walk out, I'll stop sweating in a few walk out, I'll stop sweating in a few minutes where if I'm in the sauna at a minutes where if I'm in the sauna at a minutes where if I'm in the sauna at a studio or somewhere at the gym, I'm studio or somewhere at the gym, I'm studio or somewhere at the gym, I'm dripping sweat for 20 minutes, dripping sweat for 20 minutes, dripping sweat for 20 minutes, >> you know? So, that's the difference. But >> you know? So, that's the difference. But >> you know? So, that's the difference. But I'm sweating. I'm sweating. I'm sweating. >> It started with saunas was actually Hot >> It started with saunas was actually Hot >> It started with saunas was actually Hot Works, which is the fastest growing way Works, which is the fastest growing way Works, which is the fastest growing way to work out. I mean, it they are like to work out. I mean, it they are like to work out. I mean, it they are like expanding rapidly. expanding rapidly. expanding rapidly. >> So, they're all across the country. But >> So, they're all across the country. But >> So, they're all across the country. But I at first thought it was crazy cuz you I at first thought it was crazy cuz you I at first thought it was crazy cuz you work out in an infrared sauna. I went work out in an infrared sauna. I went work out in an infrared sauna. I went and I mean it took me a while to build and I mean it took me a while to build and I mean it took me a while to build up to be able to do it, but pairing up to be able to do it, but pairing up to be able to do it, but pairing those two together. those two together. those two together. >> Yeah. Don't get in there and start, you >> Yeah. Don't get in there and start, you >> Yeah. Don't get in there and start, you know, doing aerobics. know, doing aerobics. know, doing aerobics. >> No, you definitely have to slowly move. >> No, you definitely have to slowly move. >> No, you definitely have to slowly move. >> You have to slowly get used to it. But I >> You have to slowly get used to it. But I >> You have to slowly get used to it. But I have to say, like that was kind of have to say, like that was kind of have to say, like that was kind of incredible to be able to work out at the incredible to be able to work out at the incredible to be able to work out at the same time and get those benefits. You're same time and get those benefits. You're same time and get those benefits. You're drenching like you're really drenching. drenching like you're really drenching. drenching like you're really drenching. >> And another thing in a sauna that I >> And another thing in a sauna that I >> And another thing in a sauna that I highly recommend is bring your gouache highly recommend is bring your gouache highly recommend is bring your gouache off, you know, or bring your brush and off, you know, or bring your brush and off, you know, or bring your brush and brush yourself. Dry brushing. I bring a

brush yourself. Dry brushing. I bring a brush yourself. Dry brushing. I bring a little gouache on when I go in the sauna little gouache on when I go in the sauna little gouache on when I go in the sauna and I just do my face, I do my arms, I and I just do my face, I do my arms, I and I just do my face, I do my arms, I do my chest, I do just a lymph drainage do my chest, I do just a lymph drainage do my chest, I do just a lymph drainage while I'm in there. That's a whole while I'm in there. That's a whole while I'm in there. That's a whole another idea episode. another idea episode. another idea episode. >> Yeah, but I would recommend >> Yeah, but I would recommend >> Yeah, but I would recommend multitasking. I listen to meditation. I multitasking. I listen to meditation. I multitasking. I listen to meditation. I mean podcast. mean podcast. mean podcast. >> I'm trying to think. So Oh, yeah. We'll >> I'm trying to think. So Oh, yeah. We'll >> I'm trying to think. So Oh, yeah. We'll put that one in the show notes. And then put that one in the show notes. And then put that one in the show notes. And then there's also a blanket that you can lay there's also a blanket that you can lay there's also a blanket that you can lay under. under. under. >> Yeah, that's a good one, too. >> Yeah, that's a good one, too. >> Yeah, that's a good one, too. >> So anyway, just so you have options. >> So anyway, just so you have options. >> So anyway, just so you have options. Everything's at different price points, Everything's at different price points, Everything's at different price points, but I mean just to know like obviously but I mean just to know like obviously but I mean just to know like obviously the cheapest way is join a gym that has the cheapest way is join a gym that has the cheapest way is join a gym that has a sauna. a sauna. a sauna. >> Yeah. 24hour I mean they have a sauna I >> Yeah. 24hour I mean they have a sauna I >> Yeah. 24hour I mean they have a sauna I would say 90% I mean you're not going to would say 90% I mean you're not going to would say 90% I mean you're not going to get it some of the cheaper gyms but some get it some of the cheaper gyms but some get it some of the cheaper gyms but some of the of the of the >> 24-hour fitness is pretty affordable. >> 24-hour fitness is pretty affordable. >> 24-hour fitness is pretty affordable. Have a steam room and they have a sauna Have a steam room and they have a sauna Have a steam room and they have a sauna and so it's I mean you can do it. and so it's I mean you can do it. and so it's I mean you can do it. Everybody can kind of do it. Everybody can kind of do it. Everybody can kind of do it. >> Yeah. So and that with that is >> Yeah. So and that with that is >> Yeah. So and that with that is recommended. I would you know two to recommended. I would you know two to recommended. I would you know two to three times a week is probably three times a week is probably three times a week is probably >> two or three times a week is perfect. If >> two or three times a week is perfect. If >> two or three times a week is perfect. If you can do it every day amazing right? I you can do it every day amazing right? I you can do it every day amazing right? I don't know anybody can do everything don't know anybody can do everything don't know anybody can do everything every day, but I definitely can't. I every day, but I definitely can't. I every day, but I definitely can't. I can't even remember to brush my teeth can't even remember to brush my teeth can't even remember to brush my teeth barely every day. So, but if you can do

barely every day. So, but if you can do barely every day. So, but if you can do it two, three times a week, that's all. it two, three times a week, that's all. it two, three times a week, that's all. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, the last thing we're talking about >> So, the last thing we're talking about >> So, the last thing we're talking about is something a little more unique that is something a little more unique that is something a little more unique that you are more I I've done it a couple you are more I I've done it a couple you are more I I've done it a couple times just to try it, but um it's called times just to try it, but um it's called times just to try it, but um it's called HBOT. So, why don't you tell us a little HBOT. So, why don't you tell us a little HBOT. So, why don't you tell us a little bit? bit? bit? >> Oh my gosh. Okay. So, if I had to pick >> Oh my gosh. Okay. So, if I had to pick >> Oh my gosh. Okay. So, if I had to pick one thing in our studio in the world to one thing in our studio in the world to one thing in our studio in the world to do. do. do. >> Yeah. and I could just do one thing, it >> Yeah. and I could just do one thing, it >> Yeah. and I could just do one thing, it would be HBOT, which stands for well, we would be HBOT, which stands for well, we would be HBOT, which stands for well, we have a mild HBOT, which is mild have a mild HBOT, which is mild have a mild HBOT, which is mild hyperbaric oxygen therapy. It's a hyperbaric oxygen therapy. It's a hyperbaric oxygen therapy. It's a chamber that you sit in and oxygen is chamber that you sit in and oxygen is chamber that you sit in and oxygen is pumped into it at 1.3 atmospheric pumped into it at 1.3 atmospheric pumped into it at 1.3 atmospheric pressure. Normally, when we're walking pressure. Normally, when we're walking pressure. Normally, when we're walking around right now, we're getting 21% around right now, we're getting 21% around right now, we're getting 21% oxygen in the air. When you're in HBOT, oxygen in the air. When you're in HBOT, oxygen in the air. When you're in HBOT, you get double that. you get double that. you get double that. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> so this is a portable, not medical >> so this is a portable, not medical >> so this is a portable, not medical grade. the medical grade ones in the grade. the medical grade ones in the grade. the medical grade ones in the doctor's offices for like burn victims doctor's offices for like burn victims doctor's offices for like burn victims and that type of stuff is you're in and that type of stuff is you're in and that type of stuff is you're in there for 10 minutes. I mean, it's there for 10 minutes. I mean, it's there for 10 minutes. I mean, it's really high at I don't even know what it really high at I don't even know what it really high at I don't even know what it is. If ours is 1.3, I want to say that's is. If ours is 1.3, I want to say that's is. If ours is 1.3, I want to say that's like three. Like, it's double, you know? like three. Like, it's double, you know? like three. Like, it's double, you know? It's a lot more. I don't know what it It's a lot more. I don't know what it It's a lot more. I don't know what it is, but um but this is something that

is, but um but this is something that is, but um but this is something that everybody can use. If you do have a lot everybody can use. If you do have a lot everybody can use. If you do have a lot of sinus issues or you have a cold or of sinus issues or you have a cold or of sinus issues or you have a cold or any chest, anything, you don't want to any chest, anything, you don't want to any chest, anything, you don't want to go in there because of the pressure. If go in there because of the pressure. If go in there because of the pressure. If if you're a little claustrophobic, it's if you're a little claustrophobic, it's if you're a little claustrophobic, it's tough because they zip you up in this tough because they zip you up in this tough because they zip you up in this container. It's a port. It blows up. container. It's a port. It blows up. container. It's a port. It blows up. Okay. So, you get in there, it inflates. Okay. So, you get in there, it inflates. Okay. So, you get in there, it inflates. I do the one that's you set up in. So, I I do the one that's you set up in. So, I I do the one that's you set up in. So, I bring a computer. I work in there. It's bring a computer. I work in there. It's bring a computer. I work in there. It's great. But again, if you have great. But again, if you have great. But again, if you have >> How long do you need to be in it? >> How long do you need to be in it? >> How long do you need to be in it? >> So, the minimal we start you is 60 >> So, the minimal we start you is 60 >> So, the minimal we start you is 60 minutes to make sure that everything minutes to make sure that everything minutes to make sure that everything pressurizes. You're good to go. It's pressurizes. You're good to go. It's pressurizes. You're good to go. It's almost like being in a pool almost like being in a pool almost like being in a pool >> under the water at 10 ft. That's what >> under the water at 10 ft. That's what >> under the water at 10 ft. That's what 1.3 atmospheric pressure feels like. So, 1.3 atmospheric pressure feels like. So, 1.3 atmospheric pressure feels like. So, if you have any issues diving into a if you have any issues diving into a if you have any issues diving into a pool, don't do it. So, other than that, pool, don't do it. So, other than that, pool, don't do it. So, other than that, it's for everybody, for everything. it's for everybody, for everything. it's for everybody, for everything. Like, I can't I can't explain how great Like, I can't I can't explain how great Like, I can't I can't explain how great it is. We have a friend who wanted to it is. We have a friend who wanted to it is. We have a friend who wanted to store their hyperaric chamber for a store their hyperaric chamber for a store their hyperaric chamber for a while because they had a kid moving home while because they had a kid moving home while because they had a kid moving home from college and we're like, "Oh, we'll from college and we're like, "Oh, we'll from college and we're like, "Oh, we'll take it, borrow it for you. We'll store take it, borrow it for you. We'll store take it, borrow it for you. We'll store it for you." And so we've had it at our it for you." And so we've had it at our it for you." And so we've had it at our home for 4 months, 5 months, and I was home for 4 months, 5 months, and I was home for 4 months, 5 months, and I was using it a couple times a week at using it a couple times a week at using it a couple times a week at Restore. And so was my husband

Restore. And so was my husband Restore. And so was my husband >> and we love it. It was like we were >> and we love it. It was like we were >> and we love it. It was like we were maintaining. It's great. So the thought maintaining. It's great. So the thought maintaining. It's great. So the thought behind it is you're in there, you wear behind it is you're in there, you wear behind it is you're in there, you wear either a canula or a mask and you and it either a canula or a mask and you and it either a canula or a mask and you and it hooks up to a little thing inside of hooks up to a little thing inside of hooks up to a little thing inside of there that gets the oxygen to you. So there that gets the oxygen to you. So there that gets the oxygen to you. So you're getting oxygen through the mask you're getting oxygen through the mask you're getting oxygen through the mask and you have oxygen in the chamber. and you have oxygen in the chamber. and you have oxygen in the chamber. >> So you're in there for minimal 60 >> So you're in there for minimal 60 >> So you're in there for minimal 60 minutes, usually like 90. At home I do minutes, usually like 90. At home I do minutes, usually like 90. At home I do it for two hours. You are oxygenating it for two hours. You are oxygenating it for two hours. You are oxygenating every cell in your body. And just every cell in your body. And just every cell in your body. And just imagine imagine imagine >> if you can double the oxygen you're >> if you can double the oxygen you're >> if you can double the oxygen you're getting. You're doubling your healing. getting. You're doubling your healing. getting. You're doubling your healing. You're doubling your your expos you're You're doubling your your expos you're You're doubling your your expos you're you're getting rid of all the stuff you're getting rid of all the stuff you're getting rid of all the stuff that's bad in your body. You are the that's bad in your body. You are the that's bad in your body. You are the recovery from workouts. I mean was recovery from workouts. I mean was recovery from workouts. I mean was asking for examples like asking for examples like asking for examples like >> so we had gone to an event and it was a >> so we had gone to an event and it was a >> so we had gone to an event and it was a very long event and I'm not a big very long event and I'm not a big very long event and I'm not a big drinker but I had drinken more drinks drinker but I had drinken more drinks drinker but I had drinken more drinks than I normally drink. That day prior I than I normally drink. That day prior I than I normally drink. That day prior I had babysat all day and both my had babysat all day and both my had babysat all day and both my granddaughters were over. I had played granddaughters were over. I had played granddaughters were over. I had played like three hours of pickle ball. It was like three hours of pickle ball. It was like three hours of pickle ball. It was in a crazy day. So the next day I was in a crazy day. So the next day I was in a crazy day. So the next day I was dying. So I was like that's it. I need dying. So I was like that's it. I need dying. So I was like that's it. I need to go sit in the HBOT and I sat in there

to go sit in the HBOT and I sat in there to go sit in the HBOT and I sat in there for a few hours. I came out and I felt for a few hours. I came out and I felt for a few hours. I came out and I felt like nothing had happened. like nothing had happened. like nothing had happened. >> Wow. Like it's just such a recovery >> Wow. Like it's just such a recovery >> Wow. Like it's just such a recovery therapy. therapy. therapy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And your mood is better. You feel >> And your mood is better. You feel >> And your mood is better. You feel energized. My husband's a big golfer and energized. My husband's a big golfer and energized. My husband's a big golfer and he does weight training probably four or he does weight training probably four or he does weight training probably four or five times a week. And he he said to me five times a week. And he he said to me five times a week. And he he said to me the other day, he goes, "I cannot the other day, he goes, "I cannot the other day, he goes, "I cannot believe how not sore I am." Is that a believe how not sore I am." Is that a believe how not sore I am." Is that a thing? Not sore. How how the lack of thing? Not sore. How how the lack of thing? Not sore. How how the lack of soreness that I feel. soreness that I feel. soreness that I feel. >> Um his elbow, his golfer's elbow isn't >> Um his elbow, his golfer's elbow isn't >> Um his elbow, his golfer's elbow isn't bugging him as much. bugging him as much. bugging him as much. >> It's just a healing thing because >> It's just a healing thing because >> It's just a healing thing because they'll put a lot of people in there. We they'll put a lot of people in there. We they'll put a lot of people in there. We get a lot of clients at Restore that get a lot of clients at Restore that get a lot of clients at Restore that come in pre-surgery to try to avoid like come in pre-surgery to try to avoid like come in pre-surgery to try to avoid like blood clotting and that type of thing blood clotting and that type of thing blood clotting and that type of thing that people get in surgery which is that people get in surgery which is that people get in surgery which is super scary and postsurgery and then super scary and postsurgery and then super scary and postsurgery and then they come in postsurgery for the they come in postsurgery for the they come in postsurgery for the healing. healing. healing. >> They do a lot of it for wound healing >> They do a lot of it for wound healing >> They do a lot of it for wound healing postsurgery if you have scars or you postsurgery if you have scars or you postsurgery if you have scars or you know entry wound places they'll put know entry wound places they'll put know entry wound places they'll put people in HBOT for that healing and people in HBOT for that healing and people in HBOT for that healing and you'll see like if you go in there with you'll see like if you go in there with you'll see like if you go in there with a scratch or whatever and you're in a scratch or whatever and you're in a scratch or whatever and you're in there and then the next day you're like there and then the next day you're like there and then the next day you're like wow that healed really quick. It's

wow that healed really quick. It's wow that healed really quick. It's incredible. It's really incredible. So, incredible. It's really incredible. So, incredible. It's really incredible. So, I mean, if anything, I mean, if anything, I mean, if anything, >> we Oh, I was going to tell you the one >> we Oh, I was going to tell you the one >> we Oh, I was going to tell you the one guy we had, he had he's 42 and he had a guy we had, he had he's 42 and he had a guy we had, he had he's 42 and he had a stroke and which is rare at 42, but it stroke and which is rare at 42, but it stroke and which is rare at 42, but it affected his motor skills. It affected affected his motor skills. It affected affected his motor skills. It affected his speech, everything. And his doctor his speech, everything. And his doctor his speech, everything. And his doctor said, "I want you to do mild hyperdark said, "I want you to do mild hyperdark said, "I want you to do mild hyperdark chamber for a few months straight every chamber for a few months straight every chamber for a few months straight every day." And he did. And they came in. I day." And he did. And they came in. I day." And he did. And they came in. I mean, it's not cheap. mean, it's not cheap. mean, it's not cheap. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, but what's your health worth? >> You know, but what's your health worth? >> You know, but what's your health worth? So, anyways, they came in every day. So, anyways, they came in every day. So, anyways, they came in every day. sweetest couple. His doctor was just sweetest couple. His doctor was just sweetest couple. His doctor was just shocked at the improvement he had made. shocked at the improvement he had made. shocked at the improvement he had made. He was talking. He was almost back to He was talking. He was almost back to He was talking. He was almost back to normal. normal. normal. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So, I'm just saying. I mean, yeah, he's >> So, I'm just saying. I mean, yeah, he's >> So, I'm just saying. I mean, yeah, he's 42, but had he not done that, who knows? 42, but had he not done that, who knows? 42, but had he not done that, who knows? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What the effects would have been, >> What the effects would have been, >> What the effects would have been, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> So, I don't know. I'm a believer. If I >> So, I don't know. I'm a believer. If I >> So, I don't know. I'm a believer. If I had to choose one thing of all the had to choose one thing of all the had to choose one thing of all the therapies that we've talked about, it therapies that we've talked about, it therapies that we've talked about, it would be hyperaric chamber. would be hyperaric chamber. would be hyperaric chamber. >> But that is the most expensive. >> But that is the most expensive. >> But that is the most expensive. >> It is the most expensive, but and you >> It is the most expensive, but and you >> It is the most expensive, but and you know, and it's we're blessed to be able know, and it's we're blessed to be able know, and it's we're blessed to be able to afford it. And I'm I'm bummed that to afford it. And I'm I'm bummed that to afford it. And I'm I'm bummed that it's not something that every doctor

it's not something that every doctor it's not something that every doctor goes, "Oh, you're feeling awful. Oh, goes, "Oh, you're feeling awful. Oh, goes, "Oh, you're feeling awful. Oh, you're depressed. Oh, you're let me give you're depressed. Oh, you're let me give you're depressed. Oh, you're let me give you hyperbaric chamber the uh right you hyperbaric chamber the uh right you hyperbaric chamber the uh right prescription, right?" prescription, right?" prescription, right?" >> Going back to Western medicine, >> Going back to Western medicine, >> Going back to Western medicine, >> I mean, how often would you need to use >> I mean, how often would you need to use >> I mean, how often would you need to use it to get some of the benefits? it to get some of the benefits? it to get some of the benefits? >> I think if you could go in twice a week, >> I think if you could go in twice a week, >> I think if you could go in twice a week, you would feel the benefits, but it's you would feel the benefits, but it's you would feel the benefits, but it's it's a it's a consistency. Yeah. Right. it's a it's a consistency. Yeah. Right. it's a it's a consistency. Yeah. Right. Like the first week, you probably be Like the first week, you probably be Like the first week, you probably be like, I mean, I feel good when I get out like, I mean, I feel good when I get out like, I mean, I feel good when I get out of it, of it, of it, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> The third the fourth week, you're >> The third the fourth week, you're >> The third the fourth week, you're probably going to go, "Oh, I feel probably going to go, "Oh, I feel probably going to go, "Oh, I feel better. I have more energy." Right. I'm better. I have more energy." Right. I'm better. I have more energy." Right. I'm not as sore. I'm not as inflamed. I'm not as sore. I'm not as inflamed. I'm not as sore. I'm not as inflamed. I'm not whatever it is. not whatever it is. not whatever it is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I think the more you could do it, >> So, I think the more you could do it, >> So, I think the more you could do it, the better. Do what you can afford. the better. Do what you can afford. the better. Do what you can afford. >> Okay. Thank you. This is so like I don't >> Okay. Thank you. This is so like I don't >> Okay. Thank you. This is so like I don't know. It's fun to talk about this stuff. know. It's fun to talk about this stuff. know. It's fun to talk about this stuff. >> I love geeking out. I mean, I'm >> I love geeking out. I mean, I'm >> I love geeking out. I mean, I'm Everybody says I'm You're my biohacking Everybody says I'm You're my biohacking Everybody says I'm You're my biohacking friend. I'm like, "Okay, friend. I'm like, "Okay, friend. I'm like, "Okay, >> totally. You're always sending me this >> totally. You're always sending me this >> totally. You're always sending me this new podcast and I'm like, "Oh, cool. I new podcast and I'm like, "Oh, cool. I new podcast and I'm like, "Oh, cool. I got to learn about that." got to learn about that." got to learn about that." >> It's just incredible. It's incredible >> It's just incredible. It's incredible >> It's just incredible. It's incredible what's available. It's unfortunate. It's what's available. It's unfortunate. It's what's available. It's unfortunate. It's also expensive, but there are cheaper also expensive, but there are cheaper also expensive, but there are cheaper versions that you that work. versions that you that work. versions that you that work. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Good. Well, I think we covered >> Good. Well, I think we covered >> Good. Well, I think we covered everything. Is there anything else you everything. Is there anything else you everything. Is there anything else you can think of? can think of? can think of? >> No, I think that's it. I'm just so

>> No, I think that's it. I'm just so >> No, I think that's it. I'm just so grateful to be here and share. I just I grateful to be here and share. I just I grateful to be here and share. I just I just want to help people. I want people just want to help people. I want people just want to help people. I want people to know. to know. to know. >> We're going to have you back to talk >> We're going to have you back to talk >> We're going to have you back to talk about the boundaries because Yeah. about the boundaries because Yeah. about the boundaries because Yeah. You're an expert with that. I do think You're an expert with that. I do think You're an expert with that. I do think it's so it's such an important topic. it's so it's such an important topic. it's so it's such an important topic. >> Yeah. Talk about mood boosting and >> Yeah. Talk about mood boosting and >> Yeah. Talk about mood boosting and mental health. mental health. mental health. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Yeah, for sure. Well, thanks for this >> Yeah, for sure. Well, thanks for this >> Yeah, for sure. Well, thanks for this was fun. Anyway, hopefully we've given was fun. Anyway, hopefully we've given was fun. Anyway, hopefully we've given you some good information to think you some good information to think you some good information to think about. do your own research, but I'm about. do your own research, but I'm about. do your own research, but I'm going to put in the show notes some of going to put in the show notes some of going to put in the show notes some of the things we talked about the things we talked about the things we talked about >> for sure. >> for sure. >> for sure. >> And we'll see you next week.

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Red Light

Red and near-infrared wavelengths penetrate the skin at mitochondrial depth, stimulating cellular regeneration and increasing ATP production — the fundamental energy currency of the cell. When mitochondria function more efficiently, the effect registers as clarity, vitality, and a measurable reduction in the inflammation that accumulates in muscle tissue and connective structures. This is not a superficial protocol; the light reaches where recovery actually happens.

A standard session runs 10 to 15 minutes, standing between two full-body panels with enough skin exposed for direct penetration. Research shows the dose-response curve flattens past that window — more time does not produce more benefit, which makes efficiency one of the modality's genuine advantages. The protocol is accessible precisely because it asks so little: stand, let the light work, leave. Sessions taken before training prime muscle performance; sessions after support recovery and reduce delayed-onset soreness.

The mood lift is immediate and distinct. Most people describe a calm focus settling into the hours after a red light session — not the sharp edge of caffeine, but a quiet presence and clarity. The mechanism involves reduced inflammatory cytokines and improved mitochondrial output, which together support the neurochemical environment that sustains stable mood and emotional resilience. Regular use brings cumulative skin improvement as a visible secondary signal: collagen synthesis and cellular repair transform skin texture and appearance over weeks of consistent practice.

I put it directly on the red light. It literally pushed off my surgery for about 2 years.

The healing potential extends further than skin-deep. Three puncture wounds from a dog bite, sustained at 53 years old, healed completely without scarring after consistent red light sessions — two to three times per week, over several weeks. The tissue regenerated cleanly. That outcome is no longer surprising to practitioners who have observed the same pattern across surgical recovery, tendon injury, and chronic joint inflammation; red light does not override the body's healing process, it provides the cellular energy that healing requires.

Inflammation is the throughline. Working with a torn tendon over nearly two years, one practitioner pressed her foot directly against the panel to concentrate the light on the inflamed tissue. The inflammation stayed suppressed enough to defer surgery for two years. Red light therapy works in exactly this way — not with dramatic single-session results, but with a quiet, cumulative reduction in the inflammatory load that affects both physical comfort and mood.

Access scales to almost any budget. Medical-grade full-body panels — the standard in professional wellness clinics — represent a home investment of approximately $2,000 for the whole-body coverage that delivers the most comprehensive benefit. Countertop units deliver targeted benefit for around $200 and are a credible starting point. Red light face masks serve those focused on skin and facial recovery specifically. The modality adapts to whatever format you can commit to consistently; the protocol remains the same at every price point.

Cold Exposure

Whole-body cryotherapy uses nitrogen gas to drop the chamber temperature to -220°F — a cold so extreme it registers as a system-level signal. The protocol begins at two minutes for new participants and extends to two minutes and thirty seconds at peak temperature as tolerance builds. The physiological target is specific: a drop of at least 30°F in external skin temperature on exit, landing in the mid-40s°F — deep enough for maximum benefit, without crossing into reverse trauma.

If you want to jolt in the afternoon instead of coffee, jump in cryo.

Cold exposure releases norepinephrine and dopamine in concentrations that register immediately as a sharp lift in mood, energy, and mental clarity. This is not a stimulation that fades within the hour; the effect persists for several hours after a session. It is powerful enough to replace afternoon coffee, and for that reason, late-day sessions are worth avoiding if sleep quality is a priority. The body does not distinguish between a mood boost and a signal to remain alert.

Athletic recovery is a secondary benefit that has produced counterintuitive findings. Emerging research and clinic experience both favor pre-workout cryotherapy over post-workout. Cold exposure before training primes the muscles by reducing baseline inflammation and improving cellular readiness for exertion; cold exposure after training may blunt some of the adaptive repair process that drives long-term strength and conditioning gains. The conventional wisdom — ice after exertion — does not translate cleanly to whole-body cryotherapy. The distinction matters for athletes building serious training programs.

A 30-day daily challenge reveals the arc of adaptation with precision. By day nine, morning energy shifts noticeably: systemic inflammation has decreased enough that waking and moving feel qualitatively different. By day 30, the cumulative effect is pronounced — not simply a reduction in discomfort, but a genuine shift in baseline vitality and mood. Most people will not sustain daily sessions indefinitely; two to three times per week delivers meaningful results, and the compound effect accumulates steadily across months of consistent practice.

Cold plunge produces the same core physiological stimulus as nitrogen chamber cryotherapy — the norepinephrine release, the reduction in systemic inflammation, the dopamine-driven mood lift — at a fraction of the operational cost. The temperature protocols differ slightly, but the body's response to sustained cold immersion remains consistent. For those building a home practice, a cold plunge is a direct and accessible entry point into everything cold exposure offers.

The discomfort is real. Nobody steps into -220°F and feels neutral about it. What changes with practice is the relationship to that discomfort — a recognition that two and a half minutes of acute cold produces hours of clarity, energy, and calm. That exchange is, ultimately, what brings people back.

Heat and Breath

Heat exposure works through the opposite stimulus. Where cold constricts and activates, heat dilates — vasodilation increases blood flow, clears metabolic waste from tissues, and triggers the production of heat shock proteins, cellular repair mechanisms that strengthen structural resilience over time. The parasympathetic recovery that follows a sauna session produces a calm that mirrors deep rest. Your nervous system, having cycled through activation and release, settles at a lower baseline of tension.

Contrast therapy — the deliberate alternation of cold and heat — amplifies the adaptive response of each modality. The body's tolerance and resilience build faster when the two stimuli are layered than when either is practiced alone. Circulation, cellular repair, nervous system regulation: each of these processes is accelerated when the body must adapt to opposing demands in close succession. The practice develops a physiological equanimity that carries forward through the rest of the day.

Breathwork offers direct access to the autonomic nervous system. Of all the involuntary functions — heart rate, digestion, immune response — breath is the one under conscious control. That single fact makes it a lever on the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, available anywhere, without equipment. Slow, deliberate breathing activates vagal tone, the parasympathetic pathway that reduces cortisol and returns the system to calm. You can initiate that response in under five minutes.

Practical protocols are straightforward. Nasal breathing sustains parasympathetic dominance during rest and light movement. Box breathing — four counts in, hold, four counts out, hold — interrupts stress activation and resets the nervous system toward calm. Extended exhale breathing, where the out-breath is twice the length of the in-breath, engages the vagus nerve most directly. Any of these, practiced daily, builds measurable mood resilience over weeks.

The full protocol — red light daily, cold exposure two to three times per week, heat one to two times per week, breathwork as a daily anchor — builds something no single modality achieves alone: cumulative, layered mood resilience. Each input reduces inflammation, recalibrates the nervous system, and restores the biological conditions for sustained vitality and clarity. The protocols are accessible at wellness clinics or increasingly viable at home. The commitment is the practice. And the result — a stable, elevated baseline — is something you build deliberately over time.

Wim's Wise Words

A second take, from someone who's lived it.

The order within a day matters almost as much as the practices themselves. This is the thing the article cannot tell you from the outside — you find it by doing.

Breath first. Not because it is the least powerful, but because it costs nothing and is available the moment you wake. Before coffee, before screens: five minutes of deliberate breathing sets the autonomic tone for everything that follows. The practices you stack on top of a calm nervous system settle differently than those you push into a reactive one.

Red light next, if you have access. Morning is when the effect on mood is clearest — a quiet focus that tends to hold for hours. Ten minutes is enough. The efficiency of it is genuinely underrated: the protocol asks almost nothing of you, and it still compounds over weeks.

Cold is where timing matters most. The dopamine and norepinephrine that cold exposure releases are genuinely stimulating — physiologically, not metaphorically. If you do your cold session late in the day and find your sleep deteriorating, the cold is the likely cause. Move it before noon. The hours of clarity that follow then land where they are actually useful.

Heat for the evening. Twenty minutes of sauna does something most evening rituals only approximate — it relaxes the nervous system, drops you toward parasympathetic, and the temperature fall as you cool down deepens sleep onset. If you have access to both cold and heat, contrast therapy is worth exploring once both practices feel steady. This conversation on recovery architecture covers what happens when you layer the two deliberately — the adaptation tends to be faster than either practiced alone.

One caveat worth stating plainly: none of this replaces sleep. These protocols reduce the inflammatory load that accumulates when sleep is poor, but they do not substitute for it. If your sleep is consistently short, that is where to begin — before any of this.

Do not start all four at once. You will not know what is working. Pick one and stay with it long enough to notice a change. Breathwork is the obvious entry — no equipment, no scheduling, available anywhere. If you want a structured first session, four guided cycles is a good place to start.

What changes with months of consistent practice is not just how you feel after a session — it is the baseline between sessions. That is what the protocols are actually building. When you notice it has shifted, you will understand what the investment was for.